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[-Horizon-]

Sonic? I'm ok with that. Liked using him in Brawl.

 

[zroid]

sanic eh

 

[Vuapol]

I grew up too late for the legendary Nintendo-Sega console rivalry war, so I can't say I have much attachment. I'm gonna give him a go this time though.

All I can say is that he was my cousin's main in Brawl. He got the Smash Ball consistently. Super Sonic was painful.

Spoiler

D^:

 

[OricWindstar]

By the way, Oric, is our Voteless Veteran still around, or did he get some last-minute support?

Nope! There is still one veteran who got not votes. And, like before, all I'll say is that it's not Pichu.

 

[Karsticles]

Just like Ice Climbers, huehuehuehue

Nana, Popo, and ProBe.

 

[ffdgh]

13? I'll say it mathches his luck lol.

 

[Ryce]

The 3DS is half as powerful as a Gamecube.

I'm playing Kid Icarus: Uprising right now, and for some reason I'm having a hard time believing that.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Nope! There is still one veteran who got not votes. And, like before, all I'll say is that it's not Pichu.

Can you tell us once all the reveals are done??? Like a fun stats page for those who didn't make it.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Nope! There is still one veteran who got not votes. And, like before, all I'll say is that it's not Pichu.

So he's going to be number 0 on the list right?
Because that's just too perfect.

 

[GamerSoul]

Sonic is higher than dorf and peach? :0

Uuug I like sonic as a character and do like his games unlike others

but his brawl version was FUCKING AWFUL

what a awful moveset for a character...so much bad.

His move set failed to click with me also. He was just annoying imo. lol.

cool, my quote was used for Peach. I am honored and it's very true. That melee down Smash was so satifying.

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Nope! There is still one veteran who got not votes. And, like before, all I'll say is that it's not Pichu.

hmmm...I'm calling it, it's either Roy or Lucario.

Spoiler

watch me be wrong on both counts

 

[Neoxon]

13? I'll say it mathches his luck lol.

Hey, Lost World 3DS aside (lolDimps), his recent games ranged from decent (Lost World U) to pretty damn good (Colors, Generations).......at least under Sonic Team. Plus he got some good buffs in Smash 4.

 

[OricWindstar]

Can you tell us once all the reveals are done??? Like a fun stats page for those who didn't make it.

For sure! I'm going to make charts and such to show the complete results.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

I'm playing Kid Icarus: Uprising right now, and for some reason I'm having a hard time believing that.

Yeah, the only drawback I'm noticing is the 3DS has a lower resolution and can't push as many polygons. Definitely has more RAM and way more modern shader effects going on, though I'd appreciate a tech head setting things straight.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Spoiler

I much prefer Archie Sonic to game Sonic, but don't tell anyone

Sonikku!

Too be honest, I was super ecstatic at Sonic being in Brawl, but was kinda disappointed at how he didn't draw ANY inspiration from his moves in Sonic The Fighters and Sonic Battle. Also wish he could kill somebody lol. Good thing he'll be better in Smash 4 and I'll actually give him more of a shot!

His forward tilt and forward smash were from Fighters, but that's it. They really should use some of his breakdancing abilities from Battle and Advance. Best thing that PM did with Sonic was give him his Axe Kick and Launcher. So much fun to play.

 

[sfz]

#TeamFlipnoteFrogForDLC
#EndTheFlipnoteDelay

 

[Zeyphersan]

I'm playing Kid Icarus: Uprising right now, and for some reason I'm having a hard time believing that.

Screen resolution, for one.

 

[KelpPlankton]

I'm playing Kid Icarus: Uprising right now, and for some reason I'm having a hard time believing that.

Sakurai can squeeze magical beauty out of every game. He's so dreamy.

The 3DS has much more advanced shaders than the Gamecube (better than the Wii, even) but is, in terms of pure power, much weaker than the GC.

 

[Beelzebufo]

For sure! I'm going to make charts and such to show the complete results.

Awesome, thanks! I'm looking forward to it.

 

[GamerSoul]

hmmm...I'm calling it, it's either Roy or Lucario.

Spoiler

watch me be wrong on both counts

I'd say ROB.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

Apparently this is from the video leaker:

Wolf is in according to this. Some spoilers? I guess?

I don't know if true or fake but take with a grain of salt. My friend found the image on Reddit from the same guy who leaked the vids.

I don't believe it.

That means both Koopalings and Duck Hunt Dog will each get a trailer prerelease when there less than three weeks left. Most certianly, one of the newcomers will get trailers before release but two? I say no unless they are from the same series.

I will happily eat ducks if wrong tho becuase it means less cuts and Marshall, but I just can't see them not being in the leaked CSS screen.

Plus DHD Is the perfect final unlock. No way he is a starter character.

 

[Pompadour]

I would've figured Ice Climbers would be separated if need be... but if this is real, my heart would break. Not for cut Squirtle/Ivysaur (you'll be missed!) or Snake (uh, bye bye!) and more for lack of more newcomers then the ones already leaked.

Dixie Kong missing in action again? For real? I don't understand that. She should've been one of the first newcomers announced! Why omit another Donkey Kong rep when the franchise has actually boomed AFTER Brawl? If she's really not playable (or DLC), I feel like they didn't consider her because she wouldn't have offered an interesting moveset which is all the rage apparently with Sakurai. But... Dark Pit and Dr. Mario... Diddy blueprint with Helicopter Hair and Bubblegum Gun...

I can believe this leak as 1) it's not ridiculously hopeful and 2) mildly disappointing. I think we're at the stage now in the days before release of Smash where we have a good idea what the roster is due to leaks but still hold out hope that there's much more exciting stuff that we don't know about for whatever reason.

Dark Pit being his own character seems both.absurd yet very likely. Leaks that "make sense" are usually people pasting what the community at large wants from the game. Dark Pit being a unique character but Ganondorf still being a clone is bizarre enough to be true.

 

[Vuapol]

It's been shown before that one Ice climber has the same poly count as about half of any other fighter (mostly), so the poly count isn't the issue. It's also two 'skeletons', which I assume luma/pikmin have one, too (though probably simpler?), so who knows? Her AI requires that she recover and also attack... but that's... not the most complex thing ever.

Considering how sakurai and team are a bunch of wizards, i'd honestly be surprised if they couldn't get ice climbers working :/

I know they should be able to fit fine based on poly counts, I'm just saying I believe Nana has the most complex AI out of all of the...secondary fighters? Not sure what to call her. It could be that perhaps they couldn't get them down to 60 FPS. Perhaps Sakurai wouldn't want the entire cast to be working at 60 FPS and have one character lagging behind...? I don't know, I'm not a video game developer. I just can't see them getting cut for any reason other than a technical one.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

The 3DS is half as powerful as a Gamecube.

That's not necessarily true. In fact Nintendo themselves say all the time how easily they could port Wii assets to the 3DS with no problem. It's actually closer to Wii than GCN.

But since we're talking about computing power, it's not below a Gamecube. I'm not saying it blows it out of the water but the only thing really gimping it at all is how it handles bottlenecking

 

[Ryce]

Screen resolution, for one.

Is it really fair to consider that "power"?

 

[The Great Gonzales]

I'd say ROB.

No way, I think ROB is too popular around here. On the other hand, I can't think of anyone who gives a damn about Lucario (if you do, don't say so! Keep us in suspense!)

 

[Beelzebufo]

hmmm...I'm calling it, it's either Roy or Lucario.

Spoiler

watch me be wrong on both counts

Those were my two guesses too, looking at the roster and knowing that some characters were lumped together. It could also be someone that everyone likes but just picked other characters over, like Zelda, DK, or even Bowser.

 

[Hyperactivity]

If we get any leaks for any game tomorrow, we should just call this week the Nintendo leak week

 

[Kriken]

Glad to see Sanic so high, not a guy I like too much, but he's fun to play with. And his FS was OP as hell if you could control it properly

 

[Vuapol]

hmmm...I'm calling it, it's either Roy or Lucario.

Spoiler

watch me be wrong on both counts

If you could just glance over at my avatar real quick sir I think you may answer your own question.

 

[Neoxon]

I don't believe it.

That means both Koopalings and Duck Hunt Dog will each get a trailer prerelease when there less than three weeks left. Most certianly, one of the newcomers will get trailers before release but two? I say no unless they are from the same series.

I will happily eat ducks if wrong tho becuase it means less cuts and Marshall, but I just can't see them not being in the leaked CSS screen.

Plus DHD Is the perfect final unlock. No way he is a starter character.

That fabled 2nd Smash Direct has to be coming soon if we were to get both. But again, I need images before I can put my faith in that supposed leak. I'll be fine with my salt grain until then.

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Those were my two guesses too, looking at the roster and knowing that some characters were lumped together. It could also be someone that everyone likes but just picked other characters over, like Zelda, DK, or even Bowser.

Yeah, but everyone got three votes, so I'm thinking it's going to be a character that no one even cares about. Even if no one mains them, the three you mentioned are popular enough as characters that they probably collected a few votes. Ever since Bowser wrecked everyone in the E3 demo, I've seen a bunch of people saying they loved him in Brawl even though he was kinda bad.

 

[Neoxon]

If we get any leaks for any game tomorrow, we should just call this week the Nintendo leak week

Watch the next leak be for Pokémon OR/AS.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Simple solution.

Have a Direct reveal on Friday, show us Bowser Jr., the Koopalings, Wario, and Dr. Mario.

Have a Direct reveal right before launch, show us Duck Hunt Dog and some other veterans to go with him (maybe Falco, since they're both animals? :v).

 

[Neoxon]

Simple solution.

Have a Direct reveal on Friday, show us Bowser Jr., the Koopalings, Wario, and Dr. Mario.

Have a Direct reveal right before launch, show us Duck Hunt Dog and some other veterans to go with him (maybe Falco, since they're both animals? :v).

You mean a surprise character trailer reveal, right? No way they'd do 2 Nintendo Directs that close to one another.

 

[BassForever]

I don't believe it.

That means both Koopalings and Duck Hunt Dog will each get a trailer prerelease when there less than three weeks left. Most certianly, one of the newcomers will get trailers before release but two? I say no unless they are from the same series.

I will happily eat ducks if wrong tho becuase it means less cuts and Marshall, but I just can't see them not being in the leaked CSS screen.

Plus DHD Is the perfect final unlock. No way he is a starter character.

I think a Smash 3DS Launch direct is highly likely, I can see Sakurai potentially showing off 2 different Newcomer trailers there one at the start one at the end. Would also be the perfect time to show off Ice Climber if it's really a thing.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Simple solution.

Have a Direct reveal on Friday, show us Bowser Jr., the Koopalings, Wario, and Dr. Mario.

Have a Direct reveal right before launch, show us Duck Hunt Dog and some other veterans to go with him (maybe Falco, since they're both animals? :v).

Does it have to be Directs though? Just do what they did with Robin/Lucina/Falcon.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Watch the next leak be for Pokémon OR/AS.

And we just had one of those! Nintendo's leaking all over haha

 

[The Great Gonzales]

If you could just glance over at my avatar real quick sir I think you may answer your own question.

Vuapol pls

You're a junior so maybe you didn't get a chance to vote in the poll.

Don't contradict me, man. My first thought for the Voteless Vet was Ganondorf, and we can see how well that turned out. I don't want to be disastrously wrong twice in a row.

 

[KelpPlankton]

Is it really fair to consider that "power"?

The resolution you render art at has a direct correlation to how good you can make that art look and how much processing power you need for graphics.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Is it really fair to consider that "power"?

Absolutely. If the 3DS had to render at 640x480, there's no way it would look as good as a Gamecube

 

[Neoxon]

And we just had one of those! Nintendo's leaking all over haha

Hyrule Warriors DLC, then?

 

[ffdgh]

Hey, Lost World 3DS aside (lolDimps), his recent games ranged from decent (Lost World U) to pretty damn good (Colors, Generations).......at least under Sonic Team. Plus he got some good buffs in Smash 4.

Ha yeah his recent games have been good-great but nothing will ever remove the stain that is sonic 06

 

[Beelzebufo]

Yeah, but everyone got three votes, so I'm thinking it's going to be a character that no one even cares about. Even if no one mains them, the three you mentioned are popular enough as characters that they probably collected a few votes. Ever since Bowser wrecked everyone in the E3 demo, I've seen a bunch of people saying they loved him in Brawl even though he was kinda bad.

Ah, good call. Who did nobody pick at E3?

Hyrule Warriors DLC, then?

I could see that. Or like, I dunno, something weird and new. That new DKRacing.

 

[-Horizon-]

Sakurai can squeeze magical beauty out of every game. He's so dreamy.

The 3DS has much more advanced shaders than the Gamecube (better than the Wii, even) but is, in terms of pure power, much weaker than the GC.

I'm still amazed that he got the game running at 60 fps on the 3DS with all that stuff going on screen at once. #SakuraiVoodoo

 

[PadWarrior]

Is Mario going to make top 10?

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Absolutely. If the 3DS had to render at 640x480, there's no way it would look as good as a Gamecube

But would it affect something like Ice Climbers? In other words, would lower resolution be something that could conceivably make ICs impossible on the 3DS?

 

[A Link to the Past]

Does it have to be Directs though? Just do what they did with Robin/Lucina/Falcon.

It could be that, certainly.

 

[Golnei]

I'm still amazed that he got the game running at 60 fps on the 3DS with all that stuff going on screen at once. #SakuraiVoodoo

Unfortunately, he required a sacrifice.

 

[Neoxon]

Ha yeah his recent games have been good-great but nothing will ever remove the stain that is sonic 06

But at least they're on the right track now (again, lolDimps). And however Sonic Boom turns out, we can remember that Sonic Team didn't make it.