Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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Really, that's not a terrible roster already! Aside from cuts, it exceeds what my expectations were. Some of my favorites didn't make it in, but that's almost inevitable.

Well, It's NOT terrible roster. It's nearly perfect roster for me bar with few missing veterans. I really REALLY love the roster because of many reasons but I already explained most in this thread but I can't help but felt bad for most of people out there losing their beloved characters, Lucas, IC, Snake and Wolf.
 
The roster is by no means bad at all. That being said, I would never call a roster without Lucas good now that I've had him in Brawl. That's just me, personally.
 
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This guy can be the final boss. If you don't know who this is then you've brought great shame to your family.
 
Custom events could be cool.

Ideas off the top of my head:

ProfBeef's Nightmare - OH NO! Someone sent a shipment of 100 ROBs to Beef's house by mistake. Help him get rid of them before he starts liking them from over exposure.
JoeInky's Nightmare - JoeInky just moved house. Unfortunately it seems he moved to Miiville by mistake and all his neighbours are Miis. Help Joe defeat them all!
Neiteio's Nightmare - Bowser, Bowser Jr, DK, Diddy, Pikachu, Jiggly, Charizard, Lucario, Greninja, Duck Hunt Dog, ROB, Mr G&W, Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Kids have challenged him to a fight to the death. Help him defeat these bootless foes!
Neiteio's Nightmare would actually have you fight a horde of Lucina. I couldn't stand the idea of scuffing such fine boots.
 
Here's what dlc place holders look like for mario kart
https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSXuy18nmJajAu

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(I'm sure someone thinks it's a spoiler. Please keep that to mario kart threads :) )

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This guy can be the final boss. If you don't know who this is then you've brought great shame to your family.

I just bought more printer paper for that. Turns out that 15 year old printer paper doesn't work that well. Need to find better receipt paper to use that fits a game boy printer.

Edit: Turns out this one is great, just ordered some: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000DBMGL/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 
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This guy can be the final boss. If you don't know who this is then you've brought great shame to your family.

Gameboy Printer guy?


I only (think I) know this because a guy called MechaBowser used to have it as an avatar on a forum I used to go on.
 
No I must hold hope for more. If this roster is it I will be sad. And only buy the game once for each system, rather than a total of 7 like I had planned.
 
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(I'm sure someone thinks it's a spoiler. Please keep that to mario kart threads :) )



I just bought more printer paper for that. Turns out that 15 year old printer paper doesn't work that well. Need to find better receipt paper to use that fits a game boy printer.
Lol!!
 
You could possibly incorporate them into a move set for a pre electrical visual spiel era Nintendo. So they use Hanfuda cards, N&B blocks, a Chiritorie etc.

Having quickly glanced at the go to resource for this era of Nintendo stuff, Before Mario, I have whittled down the potential humanoid characters who can represent this era


Mister Magician!

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The biker his/her self wasn't present, but Mach Rider was a Nintendo toy. This might make for the argument that Mach Rider'd go before Pac-Man/Game & Watch in All-Star.

Also, sorry, SuperNESJoe, for not using the one you sent; the hair was fabulous, but it wasn't transparent...

And Game Boy Camera Face would be legitimately terrifying, but I'd be down for it as the bonus boss beyond the Master Hand teased in that PotD earlier this week.
 
Custom events could be cool.

Ideas off the top of my head:

ProfBeef's Nightmare - OH NO! Someone sent a shipment of 100 ROBs to Beef's house by mistake. Help him get rid of them before he starts liking them from over exposure.
JoeInky's Nightmare - JoeInky just moved house. Unfortunately it seems he moved to Miiville by mistake and all his neighbours are Miis. Help Joe defeat them all!
Neiteio's Nightmare - Bowser, Bowser Jr, DK, Diddy, Pikachu, Jiggly, Charizard, Lucario, Greninja, Duck Hunt Dog, ROB, Mr G&W, Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Kids have challenged him to a fight to the death. Help him defeat these bootless foes!

Let's get a confirmation of events returning at all first :/
 
Welp, you're not allowed in this thread anymore, even supersah probably has more than that!

I honestly don't know what my number is, but it probably isn't all that high. All I remember was that I used some ledge hogging strategy, but I don't remember who I used.
 
Leaker will reveal this apparently. Please take this seriously:

Gamefaqs said:
I have no evidence of this whatsoever.

Here's a summary of what's being revealed.


The Roster Has Even Less Characters than the ESRB version, due to cart limitations most of these characters and the ones on the Pic Of The Day site were removed.

We're getting the Original SSB64 Cast, but Captain Falcon is replaced with Shulk, Luigi is replaced with Pichu, and Donkey Kong is removed entirely.

Welp, you're not allowed in this thread anymore, even supersah probably has more than that!

The fuck is this supposed to mean?
 
Well, It's NOT terrible roster. It's nearly perfect roster for me bar with few missing veterans. I really REALLY love the roster because of many reasons but I already explained most in this thread but I can't help but felt bad for most of people out there losing their beloved characters, Lucas, IC, Snake and Wolf.
Oh yeah that's true. I remember seeing the discussion of how perfect it was for you. Congrats!

I think it's pretty great, but there's no reason to cut Lucas, ICs, or Wolf. That knocks it down a bunch of pegs. They weren't clones or anything. I guess they could be considered irrelevant, but that just makes me sad. :\
You should unlock Toad first by shooting all the names in the credits.

Cruel Melee is a breeze with him

lol
Lol, I remember that one too. It even had a picture to go along with it. 12 year old me was convinced, until I saw GameFAQs people call it an obvious fake.
 
Aβydoς;127353785 said:
I'm sorry, but whoever says the roster is outright bad is an idiot.
Yep, simple as that, an idiot.
It's not a bad roster, but it's not a good one either imo.

I'm just not interested in most of these newcomers. I don't see the appeal of Wii Fit Trainer at all. I've never played Duck Hunt or Punch Out. I've disliked Bowser Jr. as a character for years, and I'm not excited by Palutena, Villager, Shulk, Pac-Man, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit or clone-Lucina either. Couple that with the loss of characters I actually DO like, such as Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas and Snake AND the absence of reps for several franchises that sorely need them, and I think it's just as idiotic not be able to see why people could be disappointed with this roster.
 
I honestly don't know what my number is, but it probably isn't all that high. All I remember was that I used some ledge hogging strategy, but I don't remember who I used.

Yeah that's the problem with it, it's just a load of stalling and gimping.

I'd rather it just be an endless amount of 1 opponent at a time at level 50 with no items at all for cruel melee this time around.
 
So - let's entertain the thought that the leaked roster is final, and those 5 slots will stay empty in the game.

However, there will be a DLC character pack, with 9 characters - 3 newcomers, 3 new clones and 3 veterans. Which would you choose to fill it?

Also, characters which are already stage bosses / hazards and assist trophies are ineligible.

Newcomers:

1. Marshal/Chorus Kids
2. Dixie Kong
3. Krystal

Clones:

1. Proto Man (Mega Man clone)
2. Wart (Bowser clone)
3. Daisy (Peach clone)

Veterans:

1. Ice Climbers
2. Lucas
3. Mewtwo
 
Yeah that's the problem with it, it's just a load of stalling and gimping.

I'd rather it just be an endless amount of 1 opponent at a time at level 50 with no items at all for cruel melee this time around.
That'd be a lot more fun and less chaotic.

So no, never happening.
 
Yeah that's the problem with it, it's just a load of stalling and gimping.

I'd rather it just be an endless amount of 1 opponent at a time at level 50 with no items at all for cruel melee this time around.

Not cruel enough. That's just 'really hard melee.'

I also think they can be crueler. Make it a walk off stage, or flatland.
 
Alternatively, they have different tastes than you and thus their opinions differ.

No, fuck this. "Having different tastes...". Then play Mortal Kombat. Smash Bros. does what he sets to do (representing Nintendo and gaming in general) in a great fashion. As it ALWAYS did.
The roster is great. Perfection doesn't exist. You can't please everyone.
 
Neiteio's Nightmare - Bowser, Bowser Jr, DK, Diddy, Pikachu, Jiggly, Charizard, Lucario, Greninja, Duck Hunt Dog, ROB, Mr G&W, Wii Fit Trainer and Chorus Kids have challenged him to a fight to the death. Help him defeat these bootless foes!

I think that sounds more like a dream to him than a nightmare.

I think something more fitting would be:

Neiteio's Nightmare - Play a Round of All-Star Mode on the Hardest Difficulty as Lucina... without her Boots.
 
What do you people want? The revealed roster is incredible. As a fan of Smash 64, anything in addition to the original 12 is awesome. What is the obsession with Ridley and K Rool, and how could their inclusion change a roster from average to incredible? Some people...
 
Aβydoς;127356083 said:
No, fuck this. "Having different tastes...". Then play Mortal Kombat. Smash Bros. does what he sets to do (representing Nintendo and gaming in general) in a great fashion. As it ALWAYS did.
The roster is great. Perfection doesn't exist. You can't please everyone.

So it can't please everyone and yet he's apparently not allowed to not be pleased or something?
 
Aβydoς;127356083 said:
No, fuck this. "Having different tastes...". Then play Mortal Kombat. Smash Bros. does what he sets to do (representing Nintendo and gaming in general) in a great fashion. As it ALWAYS did.
The roster is great. Perfection doesn't exist. You can't please everyone.

People are allowed a difference of opinion. They don't mean that the roster is bad for EVERYONE, they mean that the roster is bad FOR THEM personally.

It means that the newcomers they were hoping for didn't make it in, or, possibly, that people they were hoping didn't make it in DID make it in.
 
It's not a bad roster, but it's not a good one either imo.

I'm just not interested in most of these newcomers. I don't see the appeal of Wii Fit Trainer at all. I've never played Duck Hunt or Punch Out. I've disliked Bowser Jr. as a character for years, and I'm not excited by Palutena, Villager, Shulk, Pac-Man, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit or clone-Lucina either. Couple that with the loss of characters I actually DO like, such as Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas and Snake AND the absence of reps for several franchises that sorely need them, and I think it's just as idiotic not be able to see why people could be disappointed with this roster.

Out if curiosity--and I mean no malice--what franchises do you think soley need them that are Nintendo-owned? I only think of awesome third party characters like Pheonix Wright and Peofessir Layton :p
 
So it can't please everyone and yet he's apparently not allowed to not be pleased or something?

If the roster doesn't please you in any way or in the majority of it, you're not looking for this game. Maybe you'd like Tekken roster more.

People are allowed a difference of opinion. They don't mean that the roster is bad for EVERYONE, they mean that the roster is bad FOR THEM personally.

It means that the newcomers they were hoping for didn't make it in, or, possibly, that people they were hoping didn't make it in DID make it in.

Only one of my five most wanted made it in: Shulk. All the others didn't. You don't see me complaining since I realize that the other characters who made it in, or most of it, deserved to do it.

Not wanting for a character to be in (gaming character I mean, not Goku or shit like that), it's selfish. It doesn't make sense. I couldn't care less about Dark Pit as almost anyone, but he didn't take Banjo-Kazooie's spot. Get over it.
 
Some of you guys should go get a nice cup of hot chocolate milk, listen to a nice playlist you like, and remember we're talking about a game here and it's all about having fun. No need to get hostile. I have no problem seeing people with different opinions, but we should be able to just accept them or discuss them calmly.

Actually experiencing "hate" or "disappointment" because of a game isn't worth it. I know you're invested in this, I am too, but take a step back and see how silly some of the posts here are :P
 
People get disappointed as much as they do because they know they're going to have to wait 6+ years before their favourite character even gets another chance, can be especially annoying for them when they see a series they may not like getting more characters or something.


I hated the newcomers to the roster as well until this leak atleast made it better.
 
I don't have an issue with people being disappointed or not buying the game cause their favorite character didn't make it, but I have an issue with how they voice those complains, like in the example with Bob. Either way that specific miiverse user is a troll anyways, as he posts stuff like this all the time.
 
What do you people want? The revealed roster is incredible. As a fan of Smash 64, anything in addition to the original 12 is awesome. What is the obsession with Ridley and K Rool, and how could their inclusion change a roster from average to incredible? Some people...

what do you mean "you people?"

I'm happy with the roster. I just need the Ice Climbers in their original form for it to be complete
 
Aβydoς;127356611 said:
If the roster doesn't please you in any way or in the majority of it, you're not looking for this game. Maybe you'd like Tekken roster more.



Only one of my five most wanted made it in: Shulk. All the others didn't. You don't see me complaining since I realize that the other characters who made it in, or most of it, deserved to do it.

Not wanting for a character to be in (gaming character I mean, not Goku or shit like that), it's selfish. It doesn't make sense. I couldn't care less about Dark Pit as almost anyone, but he didn't take Banjo-Kazooie's spot. Get over it.

Congrats! One of the characters you wanted to be in made it, too bad some of us didn't even get that.
 
People get disappointed as much as they do because they know they're going to have to wait 6+ years before their favourite character even gets another chance, can be especially annoying for them when they see a series they may not like getting more characters or something.

You know how much do I have to wait to see Banjo-Kazooie playable in Smash Bros.? Yeah.

If only a single character can break the game for you, it's probably because you don't really care about Nintendo's history as a whole. I would've like to see Ridley in too, well, he's not. There's Little Mac though. And Shulk. And fucking Duck Hunt Dog.

Congrats! One of the characters you wanted to be in made it, too bad some of us didn't even get that.

Who did you want? Seriously, out of all the 15 newcomers confirmed, not a single one pleases you? Why do you even care about Smash Bros.?
 
Congrats! One of the characters you wanted to be in made it, too bad some of us didn't even get that.

Some of us had the only character we wanted in it cut from the game when it was in the previous game. Guess we're not allowed to have opinions that differ from that dude.
 
So - let's entertain the thought that the leaked roster is final, and those 5 slots will stay empty in the game.

However, there will be a DLC character pack, with 9 characters - 3 newcomers, 3 new clones and 3 veterans. Which would you choose to fill it?

Also, characters which are already stage bosses / hazards and assist trophies are ineligible.
Newcomers
1. Isaac
2. Ridley
3. King K. Rool

Clones
1. Proto Man (Mega Man clone)
2. Dixie Kong (Diddy Kong clone)
3. ...no idea.

Veterans
1. Mewtwo
2. Ice Climbers
3. Wolf
 
What do you people want? The revealed roster is incredible. As a fan of Smash 64, anything in addition to the original 12 is awesome. What is the obsession with Ridley and K Rool, and how could their inclusion change a roster from average to incredible? Some people...

Roster could go from awesome to amazing for me with Ridley... or awesome to ugly with Rool.
 
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