Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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Man do I wish I was skilled at Photoshop. I suppose there's plenty of time between now and the buildup to the next Smash.
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Believe me, I -want- there to be fewer cuts/more characters, but I just can't shake the feeling that the CSS was included for the purposes of summarizing the game's content, in this case the full character lineup.

The ESRB description also mentions that the video must show a standard game session. They'd need to show the selection screen just to show the flow of the game, not necessarily due to it possibly having any objectionable material. So, the full select screen wouldn't be necessary.
 
If this isn't the final roster, why isn't the penultimate row filled up now? There being more characters or not has no impact on whether or not they fill that row.
Melee and Brawl did have funky arrangements before the roster was complete.
Shulk is 3rd party, duh!
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Yeah, it totally 'feels' incomplete to me, but arguments for both sides are valid. It'll be hard to see until either sakurai announces someone NOT on the CSS, or the game is out.
Pretty much.


In other news, I'm sad we never got a Square Enix character. I feel like they are the only other major video game company left that has a big history with Nintendo.
 
I don't think this is the full roster. At all.

Ice Climbers missing is a pretty weird thing to me, no matter which way you look at it. But that's not what convinces me.

The way I see it is that there are 5 or so characters that we're not complete at the time the video was created (keep in mind the video is from June/July). Nintendo wanted to get a preliminary rating from the ESRB while they continued working on the game.

I mean, do we really think that everything in the ESRB video is complete? Is there not anything that could've been added between then and now? I think the video we have was just "here's the more objectionable stuff and shots of the rest of the game but it's not complete so we'll send you more later."

So I don't think it's complete. I know game developers do that all the time, sending content to ESRB bits at a time as the game continues to be worked on.
 
Interesting point about ZSS' alt costume, although I'd point out that when Sakurai says that outfit was completed "recently," we don't know how recent that is. It might've been done in time for the ESRB video, and like others have noted, perhaps the leaker didn't show that particular excerpt.

Believe me, I -want- there to be fewer cuts/more characters, but I just can't shake the feeling that the CSS was included for the purposes of summarizing the game's content, in this case the full character lineup.

I think if it was done in time for the ESRB video, it would have been shown with all those other lewd images from the game. While I doubt the video showed every lewd outfit/trophy in the game, I imagine if that alt had been finished at the time they probably would have shown it as it'd have a bigger impact on the game then any single lewd trophy would.
 
I mean, do we really thing that everything in the ESRB video is complete? Is there not anything that could've been added between then and now? I think the video we have was just "here's the more objectionable stuff and shots of the rest of the game but it's not complete so we'll send you more later."

So I don't think it's complete. I know game developers do that all the time, sending content to ESRB bits at a time as the game continues to be worked on.

The ESRB video certainly wasn't made from the final version of the game. There's even a trophy without description shown there.

What matters here is whether it'd be necessary to show the full character selection screen or not though. If it was necessary to show it for some reason, they might have included the icons there, even if the characters themselves weren't finalized.
 
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Snake
12th Place (Victory Music!)

Notable Appearences
Metal Gear (1987)
Snake's Revenge (1990)
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (1990)
Metal Gear Solid (1998)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (2001)
Metal Gear Acid (2004)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2008)

YES

Makes me happy to see that he's so loved in Smash. Even though I know many people do, there's also many to seem to disown him, so 12 is great.

Thanks to everyone that voted for my boy. Still feel bad I missed this, but you Snake supporters rock.
 
I hope the lack of Diddy in the Mario Kart DLC hints at a Diddy Kong Racing 2.

That's exactly what I was thinking haha. When that one crazy (?) guy made that huge post, didn't he end it with "Why do you think Diddy wasn't in MK8?" or something? Diddy being DLC would have ruined the dream.
 
YES

Makes me happy to see that he's so loved in Smash. Even though I know many people do, there's also many to seem to disown him, so 12 is great.

Thanks to everyone that voted for my boy. Still feel bad I missed this, but you Snake supporters rock.
I was happy to see him this high as well. :)
 
The ESRB video certainly wasn't made from the final version of the game. There's even a trophy without description shown there.

That's sort of my last hope for the cut vets and a RH character. I'd say the ESRB video CSS is more "here's what we had completed enough to show you right now."
 
I think if it was done in time for the ESRB video, it would have been shown with all those other lewd images from the game. While I doubt the video showed every lewd outfit/trophy in the game, I imagine if that alt had been finished at the time they probably would have shown it as it'd have a bigger impact on the game then any single lewd trophy would.

Don't they have to just give a "feeling" of what's in the game rather than show every "lewd" or unacceptable thing? Because if that's the case, they may have only included stuff that was done and gave a representation of what was to come when it was a finished product.
 
Although no Ice Climbers is still unfathomable, having 52 characters, most of them totally unique makes for a pretty damn good roster. Cuts end up being kinda unavoidable when you're dealing with this many characters and it's sad, but it happens.

I'm not quite as convinced that it's the final roster, but I wouldn't be terribly upset if it is. 3DS stages is another thing though.
 
Although no Ice Climbers is still unfathomable, having 52 characters, most of them totally unique makes for a pretty damn good roster. Cuts end up being kinda unavoidable when you're dealing with this many characters and it's sad, but it happens.

I'm not quite as convinced that it's the final roster, but I wouldn't be terribly upset if it is. 3DS stages is another thing though.

Yeah, the stage selection is "meh" at best imo
 
That's exactly what I was thinking haha. When that one crazy (?) guy made that huge post, didn't he end it with "Why do you think Diddy wasn't in MK8?" or something? Diddy being DLC would have ruined the dream.

He did! Since Mario Kart is sort of becoming Nintendo Kart, I'd be cool with Diddy Kong Racing being Nintendo's Kart racer for lesser known characters.
Shame none of that is real ;_;
 
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I wish the clone corner didn't exist. Dark pit's pose facing the opposite direction of pit would look so great if it were Pit - Palutena - Dark pit.

Pit is facing left, palutena is looking right at us, and dark put is facing right.

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Like, how perfect is that?

Especially if it's dead center of the CSS
 
Yeah, the character roster, minus the lack of Ice Climbers (which is unforgivable), is pretty good.

The stage roster is absolutely awful though.
 
Melee and Brawl did have funky arrangements before the roster was complete.

It's not even about the arrangement. It's about the shape of the roster. "The row isn't finished so there must be more characters" argument doesn't make sense to me when the current roster already has characters on it that they could have finished the row with. If they wanted that row finished it would be.
 
Say what? The Sistine Chapel x Mona Lisa got an extension with a new wing of paintings and you're not going till this weekend?!
Ha! When you say "new wing of paintings," are you referring to the alternate Yoshi and Shy Guy colors? Because trust me, if the new characters and tracks were available, I'd be playing it right now. :-)
 
Jaeger, here is your avatar!

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Enjoy it :)
What in the world...

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I wish the clone corner didn't exist. Dark pit's pose facing the opposite direction of pit would look so great if it were Pit - Palutena - Dark pit.

Pit is facing left, palutena is looking right at us, and dark put is facing right.

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Like, how perfect is that?

Especially if it's dead center of the CSS
That would be great.
Lucina should be moved up to the rest of the gang as well
 
Yeah, the character roster, minus the lack of Ice Climbers (which is unforgivable), is pretty good.

The stage roster is absolutely awful though.

It was a quite perfect for me but Ice Climbers, Wolf and Lucas being missing is sad thing about the roster.

I think I understand why they did that for Stage roster, since it's easier to ported Brawl stages to 3DS since they might have to work harder on Wii U stages.
 
i dont know. im still choosing to believe that this isnt the final roster solely because of the arrangement of characters. melee and brawl were both arranged with characters from the same franchise next to each other. lucina being in the corner away from the FE reps makes me believe there are more to see.
 
To add to this roster discussion, I still don't think this is the full roster, although I do think that that it is for the 3DS version and the rest will be DLC.

There's just too many weird placement and design choices for someone like Sakurai. Shulk is the weirdest, and I just see that screen being filled up.
 
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