Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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Chances are, Bowser Jr's trailer features no spoken dialog, so the trailer would be international, other than the logo.

It would probably be the best chance for a new comer video, versus Dark Pit or Shulk who would have voice acting. Or Duck Hunt, but I'm pretty sure every remaining new comer is unlockable.
 
The Snake reveal for Brawl was the best thing ever.

Hell Yeah It Was.
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But hey guys, we got many announcements made in the west for the people.in Jpn later found out, we got PacMan and more ate e3 so its only fair that prior 2 weeks of the game release in Jpn they get a character reveal before us
We didn't really get it before them. People in Japan can watch and follow e3 news just the same. It'll be at annoying times probably, is all.

With the Japan only Nintendo Directs, it tends to be information only relevant to Japan, rather than new info on big games like Smash. Usually local third party games and stuff.
Hey I'm kind of new to the Smash Bros scene. I've been playing the series since the N64 days but didn't really get into it until I started watching competitive players during Evo 2013. I know Brawl was a step back compared to Melee but how is Smash 4 shaping up on the competitive front? Are wavedashing, L-canceling, etc in?
None of that back. You can't cancel hitstun with air dodge like in Brawl, and the game seems to have some more small combos. Shields seem even better as far as the speed of dropping them, spot dodging, etc. The edge game is changed up so that edge hogging is practically not a thing now, and Brawl's ledge snap is back. On the plus side, edge invincibility doesn't keep refreshing, so no planking. I think Brawl's harsher move staling is back too.

Basically it looks a little better than Brawl, but go ahead and stop hoping for a sequel to Melee.

But it's really hard to say with any actual certainty. The game isn't out yet, and people haven't really learned it in and out. Check out the Comic-Con tournament to see more or less how it goes. The E3 invitational finals are good too, and probably truer to how the game will end up; lots of camping. But that's Zero and Hungrybox, so I don't know what else we would expect. :P Hopes for this game are high, and we'll be seeing a lot of it at tournaments and Smash fests in the upcoming years. Everyone should at least give it a chance.
 
I've been going back and forth on whether or not there are more characters. Starting to lean towards the fact that the leaked CSS is the final roster...

Evidence for more characters

- Leaked CSS forms an awkward layout with quite a bit of empty space...which is enough for 5 more character slots. One would think that if this were final, then the character portraits would be larger such that the empty space would be removed, making the characters easier to select.

- Order of the characters in the CSS is odd, lending evidence that additional characters may be still need to be unlocked.

- Rumors that All-Star mode is still locked, indicating that additional characters still need to be unlocked.

Evidence for roster being final

- The Ninka leak is looking quite accurate at this point, and it mentioned that Wolf, Lucas, Ice Climbers, and Snake are out. If this is the case, then we would need 5 new characters that aren't veterans to fill the empty 5 character slots. Presumably, this would be Mewtwo...and then 4 more new characters. 4 new characters, in addition to the characters that have already been leaked, would result in 8 more newcomers that Nintendo has kept hidden. Sakurai mentioned prior to the Robin reveal trailer that we're "reaching the bottom of the barrel" with respect to newcomer videos. Granted, they may not have made a video for each newcomer, but it's hard to believe that he would have said that if there were actually 8 more newcomers remaining.
 
It's a bit after 6AM where NoA is now, could still be a while for an English announcement if the Direct is international.

Also, would uploading a trailer to the US/EU pages after/simultaneous with broadcasting in the JP Direct be any different to what happened with the Robin trailer? I guess no prior announcement would be kind of awkward.

That would be one way to do it, I don't think they'd have to worry since Smash news travels fast. Sakurai implied that there is at least one more newcomer trailer and looking at the Japanese release when else could they announce another character? I mean I guess it's possible that we'd get another Smash Direct before the Japanese launch, but what else is there really to show for a Direct? Almost all the modes for the 3DS version have been shown and explained pretty in depth. If anything I think it's more likely that we'd get a Direct before the Wii U version's launch to show that version's exclusive stuff... unless they wanted to reveal that in a Direct before the Japanese launch of the 3DS version.
 
I grew up with Sega and Nintendo consoles. My only knowledge of Snake at the time was a preview of Twin Snakes in a Nintendo Power I only casually skimmed.

I also grew up with Sega and Nintendo consoles... mainly because there was no alternative at the time(Genesis/SNES generation). I'm sure you can be unaware of Snake back then but you'd have to be either really young or oblivious to a huge chunk of gaming culture/knowledge. I'm guessing you were the former.
 
It's probably been said somewhere, but with this news of DLC characters coming to Mario Kart 8, I don't think there is any possibility there WOULDN'T be DLC characters and levels for Smash.

Is it weird that I find that exciting?
 
I grew up with Sega and Nintendo consoles. My only knowledge of Snake at the time was a preview of Twin Snakes in a Nintendo Power I only casually skimmed.
Twin Snakes was my only Snake experience at the time too.

I've since played MGS4 (which was really confusing without playing 2 and 3). Then I started 2 once, got a few minutes in and got lazy about playing. I still want to fill in the gaps. :x
 
Twin Snakes was my only Snake experience at the time too.

I've since played MGS4 (which was really confusing without playing 2 and 3). Then I started 2 once, got a few minutes in and got lazy about playing. I still want to fill in the gaps. :x

You started with 4? Man, what did you think of the plot?
 
I also grew up with Sega and Nintendo consoles... mainly because there was no alternative at the time(Genesis/SNES generation). I'm sure you can be unaware of Snake back then but you'd have to be either really young or oblivious to a huge chunk of gaming culture/knowledge. I'm guessing you were the former.

Let's see, Brawl was announced in 2005.

I was 15 at the time. It was probably more I was entirely unaware of any other games outside Nintendo. All my friends played either Nintendo or PC.
 
You guys see the twitter by Tecom Koei saying the next major updates adds a character for Hyrule Warriors? Nintendo is really supporting their games well thru DLC.
 
You started with 4? Man, what did you think of the plot?
Well, I actually played through Twin Snakes first.

But I was still really confused. Even by stuff explained in the game. I couldn't tell you much about the plot. The biggest 'what?' at the time was why Liquid and Ocelot were
randomly one person now
. I assume that was explained in one of the games I missed.
 
Well, I actually played through Twin Snakes first.

But I was still really confused. Even by stuff explained in the game. I couldn't tell you much about the plot. The biggest 'what?' at the time was why Liquid and Ocelot were
randomly one person now
. I assume that was explained in one of the games I missed.

Ocelot replaced the arm that the Cyborg Ninja cut off with Liquid's.
 
Anyone else feel like there's been a lot less humor in Sakurai's posts since the leak, or is that just me?
Like another poster suggested, I think he's just trying to tie up loose ends before launch. I guess you can make jokes about menus. Buy why even bother? :\
 
Anyone else feel like there's been a lot less humor in Sakurai's posts since the leak, or is that just me?

I think the humor isn't there mostly due to the fact that it's hard to make a screenshot of a menu all that humorous. I don't think it's necessarily the leak.
 
Snake in Brawl is still one of the most hyped times I've been over a game trailer. Well it also confirmed Wario is it was a double whammy! Well I was much younger then.

Also didn't care if he wasn't "pure Nintendo". I enjoyed MGSTS, MGS2 and MGS3 so I was just happy for the character. Also first third party character ever which was something I never thought would happen.
 
I think the humor isn't there mostly due to the fact that it's hard to make a screenshot of a menu all that humorous. I don't think it's necessarily the leak.

Like another poster suggested, I think he's just trying to tie up loose ends before launch. I guess you can make jokes about menus. Buy why even bother? :

Yeah, I guess that makes sense! All these menu posts are bringing me down lol. Maybe we'll get something more exciting tomorrow/next week!
 
So I guess Music is Mon/Wed/Fri?

Had a dream lucas was confirmed. Woke up, lucas was not confirmed :(

When's the direct, sakurai? :( :(
 
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