Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"
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NeoGarrison
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It's funny because my bro was telling me that he didn't want to give up his awesome pokemon themed 3ds, but the new faceplate idea just kinda killed the whole (Special Edition!) thing outta the water anyway. Change the look of your 3ds anytime you want, whats the use of special editions when you can just buy the appropriate faceplate for the look you want?
Incitemaybe
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What's the word on what the "new 3d" is?
I assume they just increased the clockspeed to something actually reasonable. The 3DS's clockspeed was only 266MHz, well below the limits of what it's chipset could actually handle. I figure Nintendo did that for battery life (can you imagine worse battery life for the system?) but with improvements in chip efficiency and potentially increased battery capacity that's no longer a limiting factor.
The real question is; would an increase in clockspeed apply to the GPU too? In the 3DS both the CPU and GPU have the exact same clockspeed but that doesn't necessarily have to remain true for New 3DS.
Yeah it's funny how right now they only distinguish the name with 'new'. Will no doubt continue to confuse consumers
Azzurri
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Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the New 3DS and 3DS LL, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel the New 3DS and New 3DS LL or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the New 3DS and 3DS LL, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.
Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel the New 3DS and New 3DS LL or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I see both of your points... but I don't feel there should be as much separation placed between "new platform" and "hardware iteration".
If I buy a New 3DS, I can still play 3DS games on it, but some new games will require a New 3DS.
When I bought a PS3, I could still play PS2 games on it, but some new games required a PS3.
If this all stopped at Xenoblade, and maybe some obscure titles, I could see how this wouldn't be much of a big deal. But I'm thinking we will likely see a major Mario title be New 3DS Only... perhaps Metroid Prime port being New 3DS Only... maybe even a Zelda. If that happens, people will understand more. Sticking with original 3DS would be less of an option.
Personally, I never made the jump from Gameboy to GameBoyColor... or DS to DSi... but I may feel the need to here if I care about playing these games.
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Graphics Horse
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Yes, they confirmed it. At least read the faq first...
Smaller 3DS gets faceplates that cost money
Larger 3DS gets special editions.
Think that's how they're going to run it
Nah I dont think so, this is not their next gen handheld. Unless the spec bump is a lot more significant than we think it is which is unlikely in my opinion.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Which should happen.
Graphics Horse
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Uses eye tracking/head tracking and shifts the barrier that partitions the left/right images to line up with your head, so you don't get bad images at certain angles anymore.
The Cowboy
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I like that they finally added a 2nd stick, but i really don't like how they did it at all. Surely moving the start and select to under the bottom screen would have made it easy to move the 4 main buttons lower to have a proper full size 2nd stick instead.
Still, i may now consider the new 3ds as a purchase - it looks to have a nice in-between screen size of the original 3ds and the XL version.
Still, i may now consider the new 3ds as a purchase - it looks to have a nice in-between screen size of the original 3ds and the XL version.
RedNumberFive
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I was thinking about upgrading my OG 3DS to an XL this week. I'm glad I waited. Regardless this is a very strange move considering the confusion they've already created with their naming conventions.
Nah, it's been 3 years it's been out long enough.
ArchedThunder
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I wonder if the new CPU could lead to some "exclusive" Virtual Console games, it'd be awesome if they could get a GBA VC up on the New 3DS.
MegaMelon
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It's not releasing till sometime next year so you'll be left waiting to play smash and pokemon if you're in the west.
Silvawuff
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Interesting move by Nintendo, if not an extremely safe one. On one hand it's nice to see their portable get a fresh coat of paint and new features -- this is definitely a great entry point for people who haven't had a 3DS before. On the other hand, I'm kind of disappointed they're not trying something new hardware-wise, as in a completely new system design with a higher resolution screen.
I'm also not sure adding "new" to the front of the device's name is going to avoid the WiiU-level marketing confusion.
I'm also not sure adding "new" to the front of the device's name is going to avoid the WiiU-level marketing confusion.
3DS LL sells way more than the regular 3DS in Japan. 2DS isn't sold there, but flopped in the west.
Last Media Create numbers were:
28.788 for 3DS LL
6.914 for 3DS
I think the exclusive software is a bit cheap if they start releasing tons of them, shutting any regular 3DS owner who's waiting for their next proper handheld out. As a revision I like this a lot, the new (small) 3DS looks much better to me than the old one, and the colourful buttons and face plates sell it to me. I have an XL right now, but I'll gladly go down in size for a nicer piece.
As for the stick, I think it'll be fine in games which don't rely on dual analog as a primary input. I liked the C-stick on the GC controller when it was used as a secondary input: Moving the camera when precision isn't required, weapon selection, 8-way input. Terrible if you're supposed to be constantly using it, like in a shooter. I don't think it'll be a problem, at least for the games I play on handheld.
The only problem is that they're still not announcing anything resembling a proper account system, so I can't sell off my XL in advance or still expect VC or eshop games to carry over to their next handheld. Terribad. Still, might pick up depending on price at release.
As for the stick, I think it'll be fine in games which don't rely on dual analog as a primary input. I liked the C-stick on the GC controller when it was used as a secondary input: Moving the camera when precision isn't required, weapon selection, 8-way input. Terrible if you're supposed to be constantly using it, like in a shooter. I don't think it'll be a problem, at least for the games I play on handheld.
The only problem is that they're still not announcing anything resembling a proper account system, so I can't sell off my XL in advance or still expect VC or eshop games to carry over to their next handheld. Terribad. Still, might pick up depending on price at release.
vagabondarts
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Did people melt down like this when dsi was announced?
I bought one and some people didn't and the world went on
I bought one and some people didn't and the world went on
How long have you been here?
Willy Wanka
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I like the improvements but I'll be sticking with my original 3DS XL for the foreseeable future.
Obligatory "I don't trust the eye tracking feature to reliably parse my face and thus think I'll have headaches or eye bleeding problems." post.
Obligatory "I'm a tremendous pessimist and predict that it'll be a 2D screen with fancy rendering tech to cover the 2Dishness." prediction.
I am a bit puzzled by the outrage by the existing owners and others in this thread. I mean, a slight bump to CPU performance and integration of the CPP isn't exactly a stunning display of innovation or hatred towards their existing userbase. Oh well. DSi and GBC sure showed that these kind of tactics will lock out huge amounts of exclusive games for existing players. Ehem.
Obligatory "I'm a tremendous pessimist and predict that it'll be a 2D screen with fancy rendering tech to cover the 2Dishness." prediction.
I am a bit puzzled by the outrage by the existing owners and others in this thread. I mean, a slight bump to CPU performance and integration of the CPP isn't exactly a stunning display of innovation or hatred towards their existing userbase. Oh well. DSi and GBC sure showed that these kind of tactics will lock out huge amounts of exclusive games for existing players. Ehem.
Please tell me you're joking...
Joke post? The changeable covers will attract many players. I have yet to decide whether I want a new 3DS or new 3DS LL. Might wait for a special edition to replace my AC one. Everything is nicely upgrade from the introduction.
Edit: don't think the new 3DS only softwares are anything huge... Remember Wii U still plays Wii software. You may say 2DS doesn't have the clamshell function that a few games usage. But that's so limited
if they go with that, I'm not getting this shit. I am not touching the smaller one within an inch of my life
if they do a new Peach XL right off the bat, I'm in. Otherwise, I have to play the waiting game when they feel like releasing those XL special editions.
Uh, what? If you don't have the system already, you're free to wait. For those who do? We'll be rockin out to Smash and Pokemon on our current systems. Then I'll rock out on it on my New 3DS XL. I don't lose. You won't lose.
3 years before making it obsolete? definitely not long enough.
ds went much longer since the revisions never made the original system useless.
A while, and still can't tell when someone is being serious or joking half of the time. Just not good at this sort of thing. Sorry.
ArchedThunder
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BronsonLee
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They would've mentioned it in the opener, I think.
I'm really stuck on this 'It's the new Gamepad' theory, though. I can't think of any other reason to add all those buttons and NFC. Should I make a thread about it? Don't wanna be eaten
ArchedThunder
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Although this isn't an answer, there are a few connectors our cables out that can play 3DS game son a television, that YouTubers have been using. It's probably quite pricey.
vagabondarts
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It's a copy paste reference from amirox when SquareEnix announced FFXIII was coming to Xbox 360
EnVy_CaLiBeR
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It's really called "New Nintendo 3DS"?
Nintendo never learns with these horrible names.
Nintendo never learns with these horrible names.