Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"

Why create such a shitty 2nd analog stick (or nub). I was excited seeing that text until I looked for where it was.

That nub is going to be worse than the PSP analog slider thing.
 
Toxi said:
Jesus, That second stick. Maybe it's a good thing I'm a sucker and bought the circle pad pro, I can't imagine playing Monster Hunter as a Gunner with that.
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And here I thought that Nintendo learned their lesson with the Gamecube that a tiny nub is not a suitable substitute for a full analog stick...
 
So now that my EHHRMAGHERD I NEED IT NOW hype has worn off, the new model comes with some disappointment.

Probably not region free.
No update to screens.
Battery life not improved by much.
Nub doesn't look great, but I'll save judgement until I try it.

Hopefully the OG model has a more solid build quality, and we get a decent color in NA (black or white).
 
EnVy_CaLiBeR said:
It's really called "New Nintendo 3DS"?

Nintendo never learns with these horrible names.
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It's funny how some people are stressing right now over the new 3ds and they are crying at nintendo for upgrading their system so quick yet Nintendo has done this every time.
 
Azzurri said:
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the New 3DS and 3DS LL, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel the New 3DS and New 3DS LL or you can kiss your business goodbye.
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No, seriously, you're joking right?

If not then wow... Someone needs a history lesson. Nintendo does this with their handhelds all the time and Japan is usually on board. Game Boy Color and DSi did fine, the New 3DS will work as well.
 
Why couldn't they have upped the screen resolution??!!?? I'll probably trade in my 3ds XL for the new 3ds since the XL cramps my hands sigh.
 
Tabris said:
All they had to do was move start and select to the bottom middle and they would have had room for a proper analog stick.
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Yeah, i mean they already had the ideal setup for start/select and home on the 3DS and XL - they should have stuck with that layout and used the extra room for a proper 2nd stick - not a tiny nub.
 
First thought: coloured buttons!!
Second thought: the realisation that I just acted like one of the kids freaking out about Malibu Stacy getting a new hat
 
EnVy_CaLiBeR said:
It's really called "New Nintendo 3DS"?

Nintendo never learns with these horrible names.
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I can see the casual conversation now.


Hey dude I bought the New 3DS!
Why didn't you buy one used?
No dude this is the New 3DS!
Um......ok.
It's different that the old 3DS!
What makes it different than the old 3DS?
Because it's new!
Please kill me!
 
I didn't like how MH4 was coming on 3DS cause I NEED dat camera control. But now I'm definitely going to sell my XL and get this just for that nub. GIVE ME THE NUB
 
I think I will pass on this new system. I learned my lesson with the DSi. The reality is that Nintendo's next handheld will probably be released in 2-3 years and will (hopefully) be backwards compatible with these New 3DS Exclusive games.

Also, you can count the number of DSi exclusive games on one hand. Most games were "DSi Enhanced" if anything, which mostly meant that they made use of the camera. I suspect a similar situation will happen here.
 
Hermii said:
Nah I dont think so, this is not their next gen handheld. Unless the spec bump is a lot more significant than we think it is which is unlikely in my opinion.
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This could be the smartest thing Nintendo could release as their next major handheld though (except for the name of course).

Recently watched a good video where it was explained that Vita failed because:

- system was TOO powerful... cost of developing games was too high, so too much risk for developers, while...
- Sony was not flipping the bill to product a strong number of games to drive hardware sales, and attract 3rd party development.

With this, Nintendo does not increase the cost of development in any significant way, and keeps hardware production cost very low. But it is all for nothing if they don't develop a strong line of exclusive content for it to drive sales. Or simply pull the old 3DS off the shelves and limit choice... which is actually what would likely happen.
 
Man, super hyped for the new Nintendo 3DS although I wish they called it the Super Nintendo 3DS. That would have been awesome, especially since it has the same style buttons.
 
Sorry if this has been answered but where is the SD card slot? There's a screenshot on the first page that shows the back side but you have to open it? microSD only?
 
I paid $250 for my 3DS and $200 for my XL, no way am I buying this one full price. It looks pretty good and the additions sound much better than the XL, so I might sell my current XL or my original 3DS or both and get this when it gets a temporary sale in NA.
 
I feel like that second analog "stick" is a perfect encapsulation of Nintendo's present problem where their hardware isn't sufficient for the "core" but also not suitable for casuals.

Most gamers don't want a second stick. Given that most portable gamers seem to be happy with no sticks at all, the number who feel a second stick is a significant improvement represent a distinct minority. But of those who do want a second stick, what they've created will be entirely unsatisfactory. They want two built in, full analog sticks similar to the Vita, not two slide pads which are asymmetric both in position and in shape, giving a tiny nub on the right hand side. This second "analog stick" is not enough for the "core" gamers who aren't already on board, too much for the casuals who would be fine without an analog stick entirely.
 
wtf zl/ zr buttons, abysmal placement. An analogue nub with worse throw than the 2005 psp slider. Why didn't they put a duplicate of the existing slider on the other side. Gonna stick with my LL.
 
Kurdel said:
Nah, it's been 3 years it's been out long enough.
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Traditionally systems have been supported for 5 years if not longer. 3 years is bullshit and is a total abandonment of the existing user base. I thought the Wii support was terrible dropping support after 5 years, this just takes it to a whole new level. I'm done with this company until they find some direction. Which doesn't seem likely until Iwata is out of the equation.

Opiate said:
I feel like that second analog "stick" is a perfect encapsulation of Nintendo's problems.

Most gamers don't want a second stick. Given that most portable gamers seem to be happy with no sticks at all, the number who feel a second stick is a significant improvement represent a distinct minority.

But of those who do want a second stick, what they've created will be entirely unsatisfactory. They want two built in, full analog sticks similar to the Vita, not two slide pads which are asymmetric both in position and in shape, giving a tiny nub on the right hand side.

In short: it's not good enough for the "core," but superfluous for the casuals, at least in the west. Nintendo keeps making decisions like that.
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Can't agree more. They have NFI what they're doing at this point.
 
MilesTeg said:
Need to know if pixel density is increased for these new models.
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No, they didn't make the screens smaller.
saunderez said:
Traditionally systems have been supported for 5 years if not longer. 3 years is bullshit and is a total abandonment of the existing user base. I thought the Wii support was terrible dropping support after 5 years, this just takes it to a whole new level. I'm done with this company until they find some direction. Which doesn't seem likely until Iwata is out of the equation.
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They aren't dropping 3DS support. God damn are the knee-jerk reactions in here bad.
 
saunderez said:
Traditionally systems have been supported for 5 years if not longer. 3 years is bullshit and is a total abandonment of the existing user base. I thought the Wii support was terrible dropping support after 5 years, this just takes it to a whole new level. I'm done with this company until they find some direction. Which doesn't seem likely until Iwata is out of the equation.
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Huh? They're not dropping support of the 3DS. You should look at this as 3DSi, or 3DS Color. Some exclusive stuff will be there, but the majority will work on both. They're not abandoning anybody. If anything, this shows they want to keep this platform going for a least another couple years.
 
I just got into this thred, what's the general consensus? I need one of these ASAP, if only for the awesome colored buttons! I'm a bit skeptical about the nub, but stoked to see a couple extra shoulder buttons in there. Hopefully there will be more than 5 games that support this.
 
BronsonLee said:
They would've mentioned it in the opener, I think.

I'm really stuck on this 'It's the new Gamepad' theory, though. I can't think of any other reason to add all those buttons and NFC. Should I make a thread about it? Don't wanna be eaten
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Interesting, I had not even considered that. It would actually make a lot of sense to have it double as a gamepad. I'd say yes, make a thread about it, but I'm a lowly junior, so take that with a grain of salt.
 
Azzurri said:
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the New 3DS and 3DS LL, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire market with this move.

Nintendo, publicly apologize and cancel the New 3DS and New 3DS LL or you can kiss your business goodbye.
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Well if you were an expert on the Japanese game Market you'd know pretty much every time Nintendo has done a new revision to one of their handhelds, it has been met with success, and they sell like crazy every time.

How many times does Nintendo have to do this and have it succeed before people stop claiming how it will be some sort of horrible, back stabbing decision that will somehow blow up in their face and ruin their image?

Splitting the user base on handhelds doesn't really matter. Its only on consoles where that doesn't work. People like getting shiny new handheld devices every 2-3 years or so. The only issue with it is probably the name, which at least in the west will probably lead to marketing confusion on what works with what.. but I don't think Japan will have that problem.
 
Did they announce an account system? I'd like to sell my 3ds xl before this releases, but obviously can't if i have to transfer everything again.
 
I like how Nintendo made sure to include compatibility with MicroSD cards, but totally passed on supporting the much needed SDXC format. I have a 64GB card in my 3DS, but it's not officially supported and I always worry that it's going to stop working at some point.
 
Opiate said:
I feel like that second analog "stick" is a perfect encapsulation of Nintendo's present problem where their hardware isn't sufficient for the "core" but also not suitable for casuals.

Most gamers don't want a second stick. Given that most portable gamers seem to be happy with no sticks at all, the number who feel a second stick is a significant improvement represent a distinct minority. But of those who do want a second stick, what they've created will be entirely unsatisfactory. They want two built in, full analog sticks similar to the Vita, not two slide pads which are asymmetric both in position and in shape, giving a tiny nub on the right hand side. Not enough for the "core" gamers who aren't already on board, too much for the casuals who would be fine without an analog stick entirely.
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It's such a weird design choice. I mean, if they were going to give in to the second analog stick, why not like...actually make it more practical? I feel like while the casual gamer might not want a second stick, they wouldn't have cared if there was a bigger one at the bottom. Especially if there was an option to not use it. It's not like it would take up anymore space. So why NOT make it properly?
 
Ok, so...anyone with comprehension of Japanese who can see if, during the Direct, Iwata actually mentioned the lack of the region lock? It was mentioned earlier, but maybe it was a joke or a prank, it's difficult to believe a change of spirit like this.
 
BronsonLee said:
Huh? They're not dropping support of the 3DS. You should look at this as 3DSi, or 3DS Color. Some exclusive stuff will be there, but the majority will work on both. They're not abandoning anybody. If anything, this shows they want to keep this platform going for a least another couple years.
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Exclusive games means they obsoleted the 3DS to me. I know games will still come out for 3DS but not all games will be playable on it and I'm not buying new hardware so I'm not supporting this move.

I went through the whole Gameboy to Color to Advance transition and this is the most insulting transition of all.
 
saunderez said:
Traditionally systems have been supported for 5 years if not longer. 3 years is bullshit and is a total abandonment of the existing user base. I thought the Wii support was terrible dropping support after 5 years, this just takes it to a whole new level. I'm done with this company until they find some direction. Which doesn't seem likely until Iwata is out of the equation.
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It's a Nintendo handheld... Even the DS was replaced by the DSi in 4 years, that was the longest gap since the original Game Boy was replaced by GBC.
 
Mpl90 said:
Ok, so...anyone with comprehension of Japanese who can see if, during the Direct, Iwata actually mentioned the lack of the region lock? It was mentioned earlier, but maybe it was a joke or a prank, it's difficult to believe a change of spirit like this.
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This would make it a day one purchase for me.
 
Got a pink LL that I barely use. I like hardware, but I'll probably have to wait before I can justify buying one of these.

What's with the dimple on the hinge spindle?
 
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