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[igor]

Behave - 2 isn't that good, and it's a harbinger of the shite mountain that is MGS 4.

All people can complain about is Raiden but there were some crazy mind fucks in his story that I loved. And the gameplay was basically a base for what made the third one so great so haters can't really have a distance to the blonde twat the game itself makes constantly fun of.

Anyway 2 games for 9 pounds instead of one for 11 is silly.

 

[vagabondarts]

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

I wouldn't buy a Vita 2.0 because why would I buy something Sony won't support or acknowledge? It wouldn't be any different of a story with new hardware. It would still get ignored by the company.

I'm glad I bought the OG Vita but I'll be picking up one of the new 3DS models since support will be sure to continue over there.

Hey, it's either get another 3DS or depend on my phone for portable gaming for the next couple of years.

 

[Shinriji]

Absolutely, though ideally it should be a bigger step up from the Vita than the New 3DS is from the 3DS. I would like actual buttons for L2/R3, and would clickable analogs really be too much to ask? Not sure how much physical space that would require on the unit. I guess honestly if it were just a remote play unit that still played Vita games I'd still be tempted personally.

An upgrade is meaningless without games to support it. The 3DS can do that because they will get Smash, a new FF, Monster Hunter, Pokemon, etc, etc.

 

[Jimmyfenix]

Well is it wrong that i am coming to enjoy mobile gaming ? It does not beat VITA but it has its purposes.

 

[vagabondarts]

Well is it wrong that i am coming to enjoy mobile gaming ? It does not beat VITA but it has its purposes.

No way! It's just not for me. I've tried. My old man hands need buttons and my mind needs no IAP's.

(I do keep pocket trains and forget-me-not installed for every now and then though)

 

[Jimmyfenix]

No way! It's just not for me. I've tried. My old man hands need buttons and my mind needs no IAP's.

Ha! I can understand that opinion. Putting a game like bioshock on ios is just plain stupid due to its limitations. I would like more games like ftl and xcom on my ipad though.

 

[SerTapTap]

An upgrade is meaningless without games to support it. The 3DS can do that because they will get Smash, a new FF, Monster Hunter, Pokemon, etc, etc.

What? All of those games are coming to normal 3DS. How does that prove a new Vita without new games would be significantly different?

 

[antibolo]

Wow. Nintendo actually did what everyone have been asking Sony to do (add a second set of triggers).

And of course there's no way that Sony will release a new enhanced Vita model at this point.

 

[redcrayon]

What? All of those games are coming to normal 3DS. How does that prove a new Vita without new games would be significantly different?

Nintendo have already said that new first-party games are in development exclusively for the new 3DS. Sony would have to do the same for me to buy a Vita 2.0. I frickin' love my Vita though, as much as I love Nintendo's portables too, the Vita just feels more elegant and designed to last, rather than having new features bolted onto it to keep it going for a few more years.

 

[Arukado]

Wow. Nintendo actually did what everyone have been asking Sony to do (add a second set of triggers).

Yeah, but instead of a second analog they added a lentil.

 

[OverBlood 3]

Wow. Nintendo actually did what everyone have been asking Sony to do (add a second set of triggers).

And of course there's no way that Sony will release a new enhanced Vita model at this point.

People really want extra triggers?

 

[SerTapTap]

People really want extra triggers?

Have you tried remote play with a game that uses both shoulder buttons? Of course people really want extra triggers. Moreso for Vita than 3DS.

 

[TUSR]

People really want extra triggers?

Abso-fucking-lutely

 

[Jimmyfenix]

Oh lawddy my free £10 wallet top up arrived. Any recommendations?

 

[antibolo]

People really want extra triggers?

A lot of PS4 games are nearly unplayable over Remote Play because L2 and R2 are stupidly mapped to the fucking rear touchpad.

A handful of PS4 games are "Remote Play aware" and will give you a native Vita control scheme, but for the majority of them you're stuck with something that may or may not work well.

Interestingly I have noticed that while Trials Fusion is not RP aware, it still maps L2 and R2 to L and R (whle L1 and R1 are on the rear touchpad). There are so many games that would play fine if they did the same. Ideally there should be an option to swap, but right now it's hardcoded to how the game has decided it, which is very frustrating.

And of course native Vita games would also benefit from extra triggers. Borderlands 2 comes to mind.

 

[SerTapTap]

A lot of PS4 games are nearly unplayable over Remote Play because L2 and R2 are stupidly mapped to the fucking rear touchpad.

A handful of PS4 games are "Remote Play aware" and will give you a native Vita control scheme, but for the majority of them you're stuck with something that may or may not work well.

Interestingly I have noticed that while Trials Fusion is not RP aware, it still maps L2 and R2 to L and R (whle L1 and R1 are on the rear touchpad). There are so many games that would play fine if they did the same. Ideally there should be an option to swap, but right now it's hardcoded to how the game has decided it, which is very frustrating.

And of course native Vita games would also benefit from extra triggers. Borderlands 2 comes to mind.

It's RP aware but they didn't do much, I think. Devs can actually do a LOT with remoteplay it seems, some just do more than others. For instance, Child of Light allows 1:1 touch with the Vita screen as if you were playing the Vita version instead of the awful cursor controls. TLOU: R maps L3/R3 to the front corners of the screen and puts L2/R2 (or L1/R1 depending on your control settings) as double tall buttons on the rear touchpad, which is much, much nicer than the 4 rear touch buttons setup...that's just awful. The TLOU:R method should really be default.

 

[Ingueferroque]

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

Day 0. I'd buy a Vita with faster wi-fi..

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

I wouldn't buy a Vita 2.0 because why would I buy something Sony won't support or acknowledge? It wouldn't be any different of a story with new hardware. It would still get ignored by the company.

I'm glad I bought the OG Vita but I'll be picking up one of the new 3DS models since support will be sure to continue over there.

Hey, it's either get another 3DS or depend on my phone for portable gaming for the next couple of years.

What difference does support make? It's a hardware revision. Even if it were to fail and Sony stop making them super quickly it doesn't stop the benefits of the revision from existing. A Vita with secondary shoulder buttons or other benefits wouldn't disappear no matter what kind of support Sony give it. It's a revision, not a whole new system. It doesn't need support. It just needs to exist.

Also why can't you depend on Vita for portable gaming for the next couple years? There's fucking tons of games coming out. Check this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858508

 

[antibolo]

It's RP aware but they didn't do much, I think. Devs can actually do a LOT with remoteplay it seems, some just do more than others. For instance, Child of Light allows 1:1 touch with the Vita screen as if you were playing the Vita version instead of the awful cursor controls. TLOU: R maps L3/R3 to the front corners of the screen and puts L2/R2 (or L1/R1 depending on your control settings) as double tall buttons on the rear touchpad, which is much, much nicer than the 4 rear touch buttons setup...that's just awful. The TLOU:R method should really be default.

They really need to just have the exact same layout configurator as the PS1 emulator. I still don't understand why they don't simply do that. It would solve all control problems with non RP-aware games.

 

[MaximumSpider]

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

Day cero

 

[Deleted member 752119]

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

I would if it had clickable sticks, triggers in addition to the shoulder buttons and local remote play on par with Wii U performance.

Otherwise, no as I don't play it much and mainly game on PS4. But do sometimes wish remote play worked better.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

I would if it had clickable sticks, triggers in addition to the shoulder buttons and local remote play on par with Wii U performance.

Otherwise, no as I don't play it much and mainly game on PS4. But do sometimes wish remote play worked better.

Local remote play is as good as Wii U other than the 30fps cap. In fact it's arguably better since it has way better range. If you experience even the slightest bit of lag on vita remote play then there's something wrong with your setup.

 

[v1perz53]

People really want extra triggers?

That and clickable analog sticks is all I ask for in a Vita revision. Well, and

Spoiler

non proprietary memory cards

but that was a no go for this conversation. For so many reasons. As said above, PS4 remote play games are sometimes unplayable without these two features. But to me, honestly more importantly is that there are some PS1 games that are unplayable without L2/R2. I adore my Vita as a portable classic gaming machine, but some PS1 games are just too hard to play even with remapping the controls.

It would also allow for easier playing of possible PS2 classics on vita in the future, which I would love as well.

 

[ATXAlchemy]

People really want extra triggers?

I sure as heck don't.

IMO, the current set of control is good. The only problem there is remote play (and Game Archive games which uses R2/L2), really. Which is why I want a grip/addon that maps a trigger to the rearpad instead.

I have been and always be a proponent of "supplemental" touch controls. They're really good when they're actually designed well.

 

[Massa]

I wouldn't buy a Vita 2.0 because why would I buy something Sony won't support or acknowledge? It wouldn't be any different of a story with new hardware. It would still get ignored by the company.

Please visit blog.us.playstation.com and count the word Vita there. The system is seeing a ridiculous level of support for what it is.

I get that it's frustrating that it didn't become a huge hit that Sony flaunts about at every opportunity, but that's the reality of it.

 

[cakely]

People really want extra triggers?

I would. Also, clickable thumbsticks.

 

[SerTapTap]

Please visit blog.us.playstation.com and count the word Vita there. The system is seeing a ridiculous level of support for what it is.

I get that it's frustrating that it didn't become a huge hit that Sony flaunts about at every opportunity, but that's the reality of it.

For the lazy, there's 20 Vitas, 16 PS4s and 4 PS3s.

Bye PS3

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

Please visit blog.us.playstation.com and count the word Vita there. The system is seeing a ridiculous level of support for what it is.

I get that it's frustrating that it didn't become a huge hit that Sony flaunts about at every opportunity, but that's the reality of it.

True but I do feel Sony not bothering with it in terms of first party games is pretty disgusting, as is competely ignoring the platform at major conferences like Gamescom. Sony could be treating it way better than they do.

 

[ieptbarakat]

Please visit blog.us.playstation.com and count the word Vita there. The system is seeing a ridiculous level of support for what it is.

I get that it's frustrating that it didn't become a huge hit that Sony flaunts about at every opportunity, but that's the reality of it.

Yeah, but most of the time Vita is mentioned there is usually Cross-buy and/or a comma in front of it. At least they're still giving it ports.

 

[SerTapTap]

Yeah, but most of the time Vita is mentioned there is usually Cross-buy and/or a comma in front of it. At least they're still giving it ports.

So? Portable AND console versions is one of the best aspects of the Vita IMO.

 

[2+2=5]

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

If ALL the games were compatible with the Vita 1.0 then i would still not buy Vita 2.0 but i would have absolutely nothing against it, if instead there would be exclusive games for it i would be extremely pissed.
Anyway i don't think i will buy any other console from Sony.

 

[Shinriji]

Please visit blog.us.playstation.com and count the word Vita there. The system is seeing a ridiculous level of support for what it is.

I get that it's frustrating that it didn't become a huge hit that Sony flaunts about at every opportunity, but that's the reality of it.

But an upgrade just for triggers to remote play is a waste of everyone time. If they do that (which I think they won't), they should start from zero. Just like PSP to Vita. New platform, triggers, wifi n, more cpu, more memory, 60FPS remote play etc. But most important of all, new games.

 

[ieptbarakat]

So? Portable AND console versions is one of the best aspects of the Vita IMO.

I think you're missing the point I was trying to come off with, it's that for all intents and purposes the Vita will be treated as a secondary device rather than fully supported gaming system.

(At least by first-party titles)

 

[baekshi]

No next sony portable or vita 2.0 unless it has soulsac

 

[SerTapTap]

No next sony portable or vita 2.0 unless it has soulsac

I think it's pretty safe to say any Vita successor would have a butt-ton of monster hunter-ish games. It's the Modern Military Shooter genre of Japan.

 

[Ingueferroque]

Anyway i don't think i will buy any other console from Sony.

...why?

 

[Shizuka]

No next sony portable or vita 2.0 unless it has soulsac

Super Soul Sacrifice Delta.

 

[RK128]

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

Honestly, while I would love a Vita 2.0 with extra triggers/clickable sticks and internal memory.....I wouldn't get one . Largely, due to Sony giving two shits about the Vita X(. How can we support there platform...if they themselves just said "fuck it, who cares about this system" .

Granted, a more powerful Vita could be really awesome; older games running at higher frame-rates/resolutions due to the power boost and the added buttons can be really helpful when playing PS1 Classics and Remote Play PS4 games . ....But who is to say Sony will support this new system? Will they patch there own games with the new button support? Will they give the tools to 3rd parties to take advantage of this new feature? Will they bother to make original made-for-the-ground up Vita software in the future?

All these questions don't have a clear answer....and that isn't a good thing at all X(.

With the New 3DS, at the fucking least I know Nintendo will take advantage of the new hardware and added power the new 3DS will have. I mean...they are porting Xenoblade to the thing, a huge epic RPG that really pushed the Wii's hardware....and outside of the game potentially having an iffy frame-rate, the game looks to be a 1-to-1 port of the Wii version. That is very, very impressive .

....I can't talk positive about the Vita's future, as the thing really has a murky one X(. Platform holder not really caring, sales not being super great, and first party support completely dead by next year......not the best things to think about for the devices future .

....Point is, I would love a Vita 2.0 ....but I wouldn't trust Sony to support it.

 

[2+2=5]

...why?

Simple, i really love handhelds(=PSP and Vita), i really can't stand playing on home consoles anymore, so i already had no plans to buy a PS4, but i was open to the idea of eventually buying one in the future, but with the way Sony is trying to kill Vita in favor of the PS4 i won't support them, and even if Sony would do a new handheld would you honestly buy it without worries?

I'll stick with Vita until the very end(that imo will be a lot later than Sony wants and most of the people think ), then i'll pass to one of those android handhelds or the Shield hoping they have huge improvements in the meantime, or maybe the next Nintendo handheld, but i don't think so.

 

[Takao]

Guys. Are the PSP Games playable Online on Vita? And has Power Stone Collection Online play? I really want to play Power Stone again, but playing it on my own isnt that fun.

You can, but most online servers for PSP games have been shut down. Power Stone only supported local play on PSP, so you would need to use Adhoc Party on PS3 or X-Link Kai on PC.

This was something I've always wanted to asked VitaGAF, but never did because I thought it had a hint of doom and gloom. But now that Nintendo announced "New 3DS", I might as well do it.

Would you guys buy a Vita 2.0?

Better camera, higher performance microelectronics (CPU/GPU/Memory), better energy consumption, better OLED*. Perhaps, even better AR technology.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think AR is faaaaar far cooler than VR.

And can play PS2 games along with finally announcing an official grip to incorporate L2/R2 (L3/R3 can be touch screen).

*There was some news about PanaSony(Panasonic + Sony) giving up on OLEDs TV (I think), but came back a few months later to announce that they are now working on OLED ― except this time, small to medium size display only.

LET'S GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY: DON'T TALK ABOUT MEM CARD "ISSUES". It's been complained to death already.

Had Vita been successful, I expected a major revision right about now. Vita is made out of phone parts, so upgrading the guts would still allow backwards compatibility as long as they stayed with ARM.

But a Vita 2.0 isn't needed. What's the point of more powerful hardware when the majority of the lineup consists of zero-budget games? As it stands today, I wouldn't buy it either. That's saying something given I was with PSP early, have a PSPgo and was there on Vita's launch.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Lol "Don't talk about memory card issues". Sorry it's a massive deal. They are ridiculous. And on topic, if the New 3DS can switch to Micro SD, so can chuffing Sony.

Also, back from an 8 month ban... woo.

 

[SerTapTap]

Lol "Don't talk about memory card issues". Sorry it's a massive deal. They are ridiculous. And on topic, if the New 3DS can switch to Micro SD, so can chuffing Sony.

Also, back from an 8 month ban... woo.

...surely you see the difference between switching from SD to microSD and proprietary format nothing like SD to SD. Micro SD is deliberately compatible and that's where there's SD adapters for dirt cheap.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

Honestly, while I would love a Vita 2.0 with extra triggers/clickable sticks and internal memory.....I wouldn't get one . Largely, due to Sony giving two shits about the Vita X(. How can we support there platform...if they themselves just said "fuck it, who cares about this system" .

Granted, a more powerful Vita could be really awesome; older games running at higher frame-rates/resolutions due to the power boost and the added buttons can be really helpful when playing PS1 Classics and Remote Play PS4 games . ....But who is to say Sony will support this new system? Will they patch there own games with the new button support? Will they give the tools to 3rd parties to take advantage of this new feature? Will they bother to make original made-for-the-ground up Vita software in the future?

All these questions don't have a clear answer....and that isn't a good thing at all X(.

With the New 3DS, at the fucking least I know Nintendo will take advantage of the new hardware and added power the new 3DS will have. I mean...they are porting Xenoblade to the thing, a huge epic RPG that really pushed the Wii's hardware....and outside of the game potentially having an iffy frame-rate, the game looks to be a 1-to-1 port of the Wii version. That is very, very impressive .

....I can't talk positive about the Vita's future, as the thing really has a murky one X(. Platform holder not really caring, sales not being super great, and first party support completely dead by next year......not the best things to think about for the devices future .

....Point is, I would love a Vita 2.0 ....but I wouldn't trust Sony to support it.

Oh are you in the shock of your life. Why do you think Xenoblade is the big exclusive for the system instead of a major title that actually matters in the grand scheme of things? It's not even a new game lol. They're testing the waters with a smaller insignificant title. Nothing more. Nintendo aren't going to support the system with major titles and they aren't going to take advantage of the added power in a major way. Neither will third parties. Best case scenario they put some SNES, GBA and maybe N64 games on the virtual console. It's a nice hardware revision but I don't see Nintendo or anyone else taking advantage of the added power.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

...surely you see the difference between switching from SD to microSD and proprietary format nothing like SD to SD

... I don't see how they couldn't just change it?

 

[RK128]

Simple, i really love handhelds(=PSP and Vita), i really can't stand playing on home consoles anymore, so i already had no plans to buy a PS4, but i was open to the idea of eventually buying one in the future, but with the way Sony is trying to kill Vita in favor of the PS4 i won't support them, and even if Sony would do a new handheld would you honestly buy it without worries?

I'll stick with Vita until the very end(that imo will be a lot later than Sony wants and most of the people think ), then i'll pass to one of those android handhelds or the Shield hoping they have huge improvements in the meantime, or maybe the next Nintendo handheld, but i don't think so.

But common man , the PS4 is the BEST add-on for the Vita out there XD!

Seriously though, Sony really doesn't care about there handheld market compared to Nintendo. Even as far back as the PSP, lots of people hoped on that largely due to it being a pocket PS2 (meaning, games from JP are both inexpensive to produce and the PS2 owners coming to PSP) and the fact that there wasn't much competition with Sony's first party developers.

Sony didn't fill in the gaps within there software line up (Pokemon-like game for example), so other developer took that concept and ran with it . This lead to many, many unique and creative games to land on PSP and it also being the home for many amazing JRPG's and action games a like.

Not to mention the amount of PS1 and PS2 ports/remasters that landed on the thing (Ape Escape, Midevil, the Prince of Persia games, Sports games ala Madden, ect) and the fact that the system got huge Square Enix franchises on the thing (FF and KH).

The reason the PSP was good sales wise is due to many developers and publishers having good will with Sony for the PS2's success and the fact that many games needed the PSP's horsepower to run (major reason Monster Hunter was a PSP series for so long before landing on 3DS).

 

[RK128]

Oh are you in the shock of your life. Why do you think Xenoblade is the big exclusive for the system instead of a major title that actually matters in the grand scheme of things? It's not even a new game lol. They're testing the waters with a smaller insignificant title. Nothing more. Nintendo aren't going to support the system with major titles and they aren't going to take advantage of the added power in a major way. Neither will third parties. Best case scenario they put some SNES, GBA and maybe N64 games on the virtual console. It's a nice hardware revision but I don't see Nintendo or anyone else taking advantage of the added power.

...Okay, I overreacted there XD! But point still stands; they are taking a major Nintendo game and are putting it on New 3DS for it to be a hit on that .

I at least have the confidence that Nintendo will patch a few of there games that used the Right Stick Add-On the 3DS/3DSXL had to support the new handheld (KI: Uprising, Monster Hunter, KH3D, MGS3D, ect) .

I know they won't fully use the New 3DS's power to not mess up the 3DS eco-system, but they will have games that use all its features (ala DSi).

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

...Okay, I overreacted there XD! But point still stands; they are taking a major Nintendo game and are putting it on New 3DS for it to be a hit on that .

I at least have the confidence that Nintendo will patch a few of there games that used the Right Stick Add-On the 3DS/3DSXL had to support the new handheld (KI: Uprising, Monster Hunter, KH3D, MGS3D, ect) .

I know they won't fully use the New 3DS's power to not mess up the 3DS eco-system, but they will have games that use all its features (ala DSi).

And you think if Sony released a new Vita they wouldn't do the same to some of their own games? Remember they even patched some PS3 games to include remote play funtionality when Vita came out. It's likely that a number of Vita games will be patched to include Vita TV functionality when that hardware comes out. If Sony were to release a new version of the Vita with new features then it's highly likely that they would do something to a small amount of titles to work with those new features. Of course we all know Sony won't release a new Vita like this anyway.

 

[2+2=5]

But common man , the PS4 is the BEST add-on for the Vita out there XD!

Seriously though, Sony really doesn't care about there handheld market compared to Nintendo. Even as far back as the PSP, lots of people hoped on that largely due to it being a pocket PS2 (meaning, games from JP are both inexpensive to produce and the PS2 owners coming to PSP) and the fact that there wasn't much competition with Sony's first party developers.

Sony didn't fill in the gaps within there software line up (Pokemon-like game for example), so other developer took that concept and ran with it . This lead to many, many unique and creative games to land on PSP and it also being the home for many amazing JRPG's and action games a like.

Not to mention the amount of PS1 and PS2 ports/remasters that landed on the thing (Ape Escape, Midevil, the Prince of Persia games, Sports games ala Madden, ect) and the fact that the system got huge Square Enix franchises on the thing (FF and KH).

The reason the PSP was good sales wise is due to many developers and publishers having good will with Sony for the PS2's success and the fact that many games needed the PSP's horsepower to run (major reason Monster Hunter was a PSP series for so long before landing on 3DS).

I don't care why the PSP was successful and the Vita not, killing Vita means not giving a damn about all those people like me that believe in it and spent and keep spending lots of money on it, i know that situations are different but both Nintendo and MS did their best to keep their consoles alive, 3ds had an early price cut, Xb1 had a 180 + early price cut, and Nintendo bought or developed many exclusives for the Wiiu, i expected a lot more from Sony...

 

[Takao]

I'm none too keen on 3DShin either. GBC was worthwhile because colour is a big selling point when you've previously been playing with that nasty GB screen. DSi has an online store but there isn't a lot of great things there. Wii Motion Plus is Wii Motion Plus. All of those were meant to extend the shelf-life of Nintendo's aged hardware, but they never got proper support because no one wanted to turn their back to the existing userbase. I don't see 3DShin changing that given it's launching into a video game industry in decline.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

I'm none too keen on 3DShin either. GBC was worthwhile because colour is a big selling point when you've previously been playing with that nasty GB screen. DSi has an online store but there isn't a lot of great things there. Wii Motion Plus is Wii Motion Plus. All of those were meant to extend the shelf-life of Nintendo's aged hardware, but they never got proper support because no one wanted to turn their back to the existing userbase.

Exactly. The main thing I take from this 3DS revision is that it means secondary shoulder buttons and a second stick are likely to be standard in their next actual handheld. That's something to be positive about.