Well, Psycho Pass is a bad show. Kill la Kill can be pretty gross, but it's not really new considering how much it pays homage to people like Go Nagai.
Try something like Bunny Drop instead.
Is Mainstream Hatred Of Anime Growing?
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Well, Psycho Pass is a bad show. Kill la Kill can be pretty gross, but it's not really new considering how much it pays homage to people like Go Nagai.
Try something like Bunny Drop instead.
BocoDragon
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Even aside from the moe/creepy connotations that internet geeks are aware of... I think anime is also typified by the kids stuff that flooded airwaves in the wake of Pokemon.
I'm not saying Naruto and Digimon are bad, but if that's what I thought anime was? I wouldn't like it either.
Because I am a 90s kid, when I think "anime" I think Ninja Scroll, Akira, Evangelion, etc. and that's a skewed perspective in another direction (as you say, selective localization in the 90s) I think anime is typically gritty, violent, and relatively mature. That's quite the opposite from the stereotype I regularly encounter about it.
Well, there are very different ideas of what anime means in different peoples' minds. Really, I think it's a diverse enough medium that to say "I do/don't like anime" is like saying "I do/don't like TV". Anyone who says that is probably making assumptions about an entire medium from a few experiences.
Someone might say "I hate TV" and they're thinking of Maury and Jersey Shore, while I'm offended because I'm thinking of Breaking Bad and True Detective.
Dastardly Jerks
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Like all other media, the terrible fans have given it a bad rep.
Tertullian
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I've always known a lot of people who weren't into any anime series, but enjoyed Miyazaki movies.
lazybones18
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Lowest form of entertainment, right next to video games/TV
Slow clap.
Anyway, there is some good anime in a vast sea of shit anime. Just like there are good movies in a vast sea of Adam Sandler and Transformer movies.
Edit: You know what gaf? I think it's finally time. Time I rewatch some Tengen Toppa. I dont think a BD release will make its way to the US soon so, I might as well settle for the DVDs I got tucked away for now.
There was a point, I am guessing in the early 00's, where it looked set to take over the US. I remember anime being integrated completely with saturday morning cartoons, and Toonami/Adult swim was the hottest thing cartoon Network had at the time. Things fell off hard though. I watched some episodes of cowboy bebop a few weeks(maybe months now I dunno) and it doesnt even feel the same. Some shows really speak to you at a moment in your life, and then become useless afterwards.
I do think there has been a drop in quality though. Even really terrible shows like Dragonball(and its even worse spinoffs) still have a lot of fans and an appeal about it that keeps people watching. I just dont see it with current shows. Gems are still there, but it certainly seems like there is more shit to dig through to find it now.
I do think there has been a drop in quality though. Even really terrible shows like Dragonball(and its even worse spinoffs) still have a lot of fans and an appeal about it that keeps people watching. I just dont see it with current shows. Gems are still there, but it certainly seems like there is more shit to dig through to find it now.
SixMachine
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Don't worry guys, Prison School is getting an anime, Anime The World is saved!
Technosteve
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I think, that's a reasonable argument, I used to watch anime on VHS and the only ones that were available were the real popular ones. When I was college and had access to fast internet man I indulged in every possible genre, I remember watching Serial experiment Lain, right at the point of the internet being a huge deal in out lives and going holly shit I've never seen this kind of story telling before and god damn this shit is weird.
Now in my mind, there is a large sea of garbage that's readily available to your finger tips. It's very hard now to find the diamonds in the rough.
Vermillion
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Pretty much this. AoT is pretty damn popular.
lazybones18
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if only it was actually good and not overrated
still seeing it, but it's got overrated written all over it
Hating anime's just not a sentiment I've ever understood. I have a hard enough time figuring out why someone would write off an entire genre considering how broad they can be. But an entire medium? I dunno. "I hate anime" sounds an awful lot like "I hate film" or "I hate videogames."
And just to add to the echo, I don't think 'the mainstream' knows or cares.
And just to add to the echo, I don't think 'the mainstream' knows or cares.
Wiktor
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Because they want to seem cool and adult and think liking anime makes it harder?
Hey, let's not get overboard. WWE is infinitely more stupid than anime.
richardhawk
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Good. Anime is dog shit. If you want to tell a shitty story there are far better ways of doing it. Just look at the Twilight series.
CassidyIzABeast
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I figured anime was dead to the mainstream once Hollywood realized that the majority of it was too weird and insane to adapt.
Technosteve
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Moè as a genre that permeates everything anime turns off western audiences
DrForester
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I think the problem is more and more people see the moe-blob shows as the norm.
Well they don't seem completely adverse to making the attempt of adapting japanese media: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_of_Tomorrow_(film)
It helped me!
solomon
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Same here in the last 2 years I've seen more and more people watchin anime who usually don't. Most of my friend's aren't "hardcore" gamers or are into "nerd"culture but as of late they've been waching anime due to it being available on netflix. The problem with anime is the average person won't search for a site to watch it or stay up to catch toonami but if its on a popular streaming site they are more inclined to click it. Also shows like attack on titan are helping bring people back into anime who probably haven't watched It since early 2000's toonami.
(Mainstream can't hate anime when they don't even know what it is Kappa)
Wiktor
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But doesn;t Twilight show that movies are dog shit too?
i think akira is being adapted too
not sure if serious. i'd rather not get an argument with people like you because your mentality is dog shit
Finaika
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Why would you wage war on your own wife?
There's number of things that have been in the works for years without any real progress being made, i.e. Akira, Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, etc.
terribletwo
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I love 80s/90s anime but nothing post GitS really does it for me
it could be getting old
but it could be something else
it could be getting old
but it could be something else
firehawk12
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The best part of the WWE is that the fans try to justify their hatred of the product in some way. Like, NXT is the greatest and makes up for the fact that the other 5 hours a week are shit! lol
i mentioned akira because i recently read news that its resuming, not sure if its bogus. Was death note the one with zach efron? I remember seeing a short clip somewhere, not sure how thats gonna turn out if it still gets made. I can't think of a way that we can get a good cowboy bebop adaptation
lol its already mainstream
a lot of people i see say they're hardcore anime fans but only ever know AoT. They think its so hardcore. Even in fan expo earlier everybody had shingeki jackets
plasmawave
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Tom Cruise, along with Edge of Tomorrow, also acquired the rights for Japanese sci-fi Yukikaze.
He's on a scifi roll.
He's on a scifi roll.
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When I was a kid, my parents actually like the cartoons I watched. Anime back then was really good in general for kids. Sure you had stuff like Goldorak, but Don Chuck Monogatari (little beaver), The Mysterious Cities of Gold, The Musketeers, Ochii, etc. My parents could actually watch those shows. There was a lot of good material for kids that weren't trying to sell toys.
Now, not so much. Things have changed.
Now, not so much. Things have changed.
lazybones18
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Interesting. I'm sure it will be as great as Edge was
I don't dislike anime. Like a lot of people were saying, I feel indiffrent towards it. It seems that a lot of them deal with the same themes; and it gets tiresome. That, and the dialogue sometimes feels odd. There's stuff lost in translation. It becomes a bit apparent for me, when I watch some of the dub stuff, on Adult Swim. There are some good ones, it's just a lot of them just feel the same.
Dark Ninja
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some anime fans are embarrassing
Jex
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maniac-kun
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Its probably because the quality of the anime shows is pretty bad compared to shows when it became popular.
AnathemicOne
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The mainstream doesn't even know anime exists and I rather keep it that way. Having it cater and adapt to such a mainstream will only alienate/dissapoint fans of anime to what got them into the medium in the first place.
patrickthehedgehog
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I dislike about 90% of any type of visual media. That's just how it goes.
Anyway, the following isn't directed at you btw.
I don't like the general direction that anime has gone in the past several years, but to discount all the beautiful, creative works by animators in Japan is just sickening. There's a vast array of TV shows and films that go far beyond the mainstream shonen fighting or moe style stuff.
Over the years I think I've kind of found that there are just people who have some kind of fucked up brain that will just never accept anything animated seriously or lack the ability to enjoy anything like that.
Their loss.
firehawk12
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As explained previously, the shows have always been bad. It's just that now every single show is made available to the English speaking audience instead of a select few.
plasmawave
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SliceSabre
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This is a common misconception that for a period in the 90s every show in anime was like Cowboy Bebop and Gundam Wing.
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