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[Kjellson]

These will be playable:

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

 

[emb]

Yeah that's just something that doesn't appeal to me. Atleast in those you get to choose stage and stuff, Smash Run is just the same stage every time with a random minigame on the end.

And you can't even interact with the other players on the map can you? It'd be like playing dota2 except all you do is kill jungle creeps for 5 minutes until a random minigame happens.

I don't think I ever even used special Brawl in Melee/Brawl/Project M now that I think about it, the character and stage interactions are enough to keep me going for years.

Yes! Most of the variety comes from the players and the way they interact, not the settings or the stage or the items. Just playing normal matches over and over stays fresh because ideally both players are learning and adapting, or trying new things.

Still, I think special versus is fun. Especially Brawl's combine-able modes. Item theme matches or character/stage themes or Falcon punch only or whatever matches are fun too. But it seems more direct to just play those than to (as georly put it) play SSE for 5 minutes then do something like that.

What if Smash Run has more to it, than what we've seen?
They could do a mode where you team up with 3 friends and defend certain parts of the map against waves of enemies. Or a mission mode where you keep getting new randomly generated challenges on the go (no loading screens) until you lose all your stocks. There's a lot more they could do with Smash Run.
I Believe.

True! And I'm hoping they do go all out with it a bit. I am looking forward to seeing what it has to offer.

 

[Berordn]

What if Smash Run has more to it, than what we've seen?
They could do a mode where you team up with 3 friends and defend certain parts of the map against waves of enemies. Or a mission mode where you keep getting new randomly generated challenges on the go (no loading screens) until you lose all your stocks. There's a lot more they could do with Smash Run.

I'm half wondering if they'll pull something crazy and have an alternate Smash Run map as an unlockable.

Unlocking new events and final matches seems like a given, though.

 

[ryanofcall]

These will be playable:

Spoiler

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

Like this?

edit: can't read your words now anymore though.

 

[Kouriozan]

One thing for sure, Smash 3DS will eat all my time. Will try to get as much stuff as I can before the Wii U version release.

 

[The Captain]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

 

[Real Hero]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

I'd just accept that roster as final (its very good) and then be pleasantly surprised if there's any other characters.

 

[ryanofcall]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

Even if it wasn't, it doesn't mean IC are back. Try not to get your hopes up,

Spoiler

and it will be awesome if you get surprised by Nana and Popo

 

[Kouichi]

These will be playable:

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

If there are five left, those are the five I'd put my money on. But I'm not entirely convinced that this update confirms more characters. I sure hope so though.

 

[-Horizon-]

Pic of the day. This time, you can challenge every fighter in All-Star Mode from the moment you turn on the game!! This is a survival battle with limited recovery items and no option to continue. However, this mode will be incomplete until you've unlocked every fighter... Until then, you can only play against characters that are already available. This is a picture of the bottom-screen menu, with a padlock indicating that the mode is still incomplete.

In these battles, multiple opponents appear in one stage, and you clear the battle by defeating a number of them. The rest area that appears between battles displays the next opponents and the year the characters made their first appearances, and it also holds recovery items and an occasional reward. The characters you fight against appear pretty much in chronological order. Behold, the history of Nintendo games!!

Cool, cool.

 

[emb]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

No, this PotD doesn't confirm or deny anything, except that All Star is playable from the start. It doesn't tell us anything relevant to the implications beyond what the leak already told us.

I think we've seen the final roster, and quite a few agree with me. There is a similar amount of people that strongly disagree. Everything is kinda up in the air.

Like I said though, I personally think it's much more likely that we've seen all we're getting.

 

[Not75Drops]

Where is the new metroid rep? Where is the new Zelda rep?

Who's really left? Tingle, Ghirahim and Midna are out, Zant and Vaati's time has probably passed and the handheld bosses aren't really memorable. The only ones I can think of are Impa (who knowing Smash would probably be a Sheik clone and does Zelda need more clones?) and Groose which would be funny but I doubt it.

edit: oh and Skull Kid is out too.

 

[Kouriozan]

Making these last 8 POTDs interesting!

We can only pray Sakurai now.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Customization was turned off. It has been discussed to death.

You missed the point, and I have already explained to someone who did get my point.

Regardless whether it was turned on or off, the idea is that they should show the Mii Fighters. Neiteito did say MF was shown but only as a portrait at least, but we're not sure if they showed them as a fighter with specific credentials for raunchiness, since I reckon Miis are really that rated.

 

[Berordn]

Who's really left? Tingle, Ghirahim and Midna are out, Zant and Vaati's time has probably passed and the handheld bosses aren't really memorable. The only ones I can think of are Impa (who knowing Smash would probably be a Sheik clone and does Zelda need more clones?) and Groose which would be funny but I doubt.

Still holding out for blue boar.

 

[georly]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

We can be 100% sure that the all-star picture shown in the smash leak means that when that screenshot/video clip was taken, the all-star was not fully unlocked.

That DOES NOT MEAN that the roster wasn't fully unlocked, because the video clips are not necessarily taken all at the same time.

If you look at the trophy shots, the 'total trophies' are not always the same, so we have reason to believe that not all video clips were recorded back to back.

I guess not, they're all out of 686, though the challenges aren't complete! Who knows.

 

[Beelzebufo]

So can we be 100% sure that this POTD means the ESRB leak wasn't final? I really want Ice Climbers back, but I don't want to get my hopes up for fear of getting disappointed again when the game is out.

No, we can't. There are multiple save files in the original leak reel, so it's very likely that the roster we saw was the final roster. It can go either way, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

[Fireblend]

I'd trade the 3ds version for 1-2 more characters in the wiiu version. Once its out the amount of time I'll play smash 3ds will drastically go down

Nah, I got my 3DS with MK7 more than a year ago, and yet I still play MK7 more often than I play MK8 simply because I carry my 3DS everywhere, and I don't usually have the time to sit down and play for long sessions (which is how I like to play console games).

The 3DS version is a godsend for me. I wouldn't trade it for 10 characters.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Guys. New Zelda rep is obviously Lana. Or Fi.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

These will be playable:

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

This poster gets it.

*marks words*

 

[Kensho]

It's not about not wanting a portable version of smash, its about not wanting the next console version to feel gimped in terms of stages, characters, and modes because the 3ds version happened. The only 3ds mode I care about is smash run and it would suck to lose it, but I doubt it'll get much play once the wiiu version is out.

Exactly, and Smash Run on Wii U online and with better maps would be awesome too.

 

[Kouriozan]

Wario being locked does make me think IC could easily be unlockable this time for whatever reason.

Ice Climbers T-T

 

[Hispanic! At the Disco]

I don't get where people are seeing all the replay value in smash run anyway, I can't see myself playing it more than it takes to unlock all custom moves.

I know 4-6 friends getting Smash for 3DS so im excited to play with them, gather better equipment and practice, then challenge them again.

If i didn't have a group of friends buying the game I wouldn't really be interested in smash run myself either.

 

[Captainbojanglesiii]

These will be playable:

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

Yep. Sounds about right. Maybe Lucas gets cut for Impa or Ridley

Spoiler

lol

, but yeah that is it if there are more characters.

 

[Kensho]

I don't think that's the case. Usually Sakurais' games are stuffed to the limit. So there's probably not much more space on the Wii U disc for more content in the end.

Brawl was stuffed because of the cutscenes... Video like that takes up most of the space in games. And I don't count using heavy cutscenes as stuffing with content. Unless the character reveals are in the game, I don't think we'll get any cutscenes.

 

[ryanofcall]

No, this PotD doesn't confirm or deny anything, except that All Star is playable from the start. It doesn't tell us anything relevant to the implications beyond what the leak already told us.

I think we've seen the final roster, and quite a few agree with me. There is a similar amount of people that strongly disagree. Everything is kinda up in the air.

Like I said though, I personally think it's much more likely that we've seen all we're getting.

I does confirm, Sakurai hasn't really unlocked all characters himself yet (see padlock).
That's why he was so angry last week and only gave us menus. Because the leaker spoiled the line-up to Sakurai

 

[Jawmuncher]

No love for snake just like always. DLC is the perfect place for him.

 

[Kouriozan]

I don't think that's the case. Usually Sakurais' games are stuffed to the limit.

Yeah, I'm not worried.
There is and there will be tons of content, the leak didn't show everything.
I won't be surprised if an unlockable Smash Run stage was there.

 

[JoeInky]

I know 4-6 friends getting Smash for 3DS so im excited to play with them, gather better equipment and practice, then challenge them again.

If i didn't have a group of friends buying the game I wouldn't really be interested in smash run myself either.

I have a group of friends buying it and I'm still not seeing it.

The base mechanics of smash are infinitely more interesting to me (when they're actually done right), I just need more characters and stages and I'm good.

 

[Vashzaron]

If you look at the trophy shots, the 'total trophies' are not always the same, so we have reason to believe that not all video clips were recorded back to back.

Barbara has a total of 11.

 

[Kouriozan]

I didn't see these posted yet, but after the hilarious Reyn Commentary Trailer, people made versiosn with other characters.

Fiora:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=pph_kz-jQvk

Dunban:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=lMZleSbrgJo

But the best one here, Riki:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=-Byw61oLhsM

No Melia or Sharla yet.

How did I miss that?!
That's so good!

"I feel it too, Shulk" :lol

 

[Neoxon]

I don't think we can 100% assume the roster is done or not with the leaks, as there's evidence supporting both conclusions. I'm just gonna take the "Wait & See" stance in the meantime.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Duck Hunt Dog is a way better last unknown character than Wolf or Rob though. Can't wait to see how he plays.

 

[ryanofcall]

Yeah, I'm not worried.
There is and there will be tons of content, the leak didn't show everything.
I won't be surprised if an unlockable Smash Run stage was there.

Maybe Sakurai himself is the leaker and now he's sitting at his desk like:
"Mwahahaha, y'all know nothing!"

 

[MxBxM]

My question is, what does the lock icon represent if it is unlocked from the start?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

These will be playable:

Lucas
Wolf
Ice Climbers
Mewtwo
Chorus Kids

Mark my words, for they are right. Mark them.

I think there are only 4 slots left. Mii Fighter needs a spot somewhere, probably down at the bottom after all the third parties.

 

[emb]

I does confirm, Sakurai hasn't really unlocked all characters himself yet (see padlock).
That's why he was so angry last week and only gave us menus. Because the leaker spoiled the line-up to Sakurai

Poor Sakurai.

We're lucky we got off easily with just menu pictures. He could have just cancelled the game on us for this. It's not often the game's direct gets surprised by his own game's content.

This also confirms that it could take over a year to unlock all the fighters. o.o

 

[maxcriden]

Is the map randomized in Smash Run, or is it always the same? (Enemies are randomized, right?)

I'm only disappointed by the lack of solo content on the 3DS version.
No Event Mode and no Adventure Mode :s

That's why I'm hoping for TONS of challenges.

We *might* still get Event Mode. It's possible. I'm hoping for tons of challenges, too, and KI:U makes me hopeful.

 

[JoeInky]

My question is, what does the lock icon represent if it is unlocked from the start?

Poor visual design?

 

[SuperSah]

Nah, I got my 3DS with MK7 more than a year ago, and yet I still play MK7 more often than I play MK8 simply because I carry my 3DS everywhere, and I don't usually have the time to sit down and play for long sessions (which is how I like to play console games).

The 3DS version is a godsend for me. I wouldn't trade it for 10 characters.

Pretty much same, really. My 3DS goes everywhere with me and cracking out a game or two every break will be awesome.

By the looks of it, that Nintendo Direct rumor was false?

 

[MagiusNecros]

I does confirm, Sakurai hasn't really unlocked all characters himself yet (see padlock).
That's why he was so angry last week and only gave us menus. Because the leaker spoiled the line-up to Sakurai

Sakurai is the developer of the game. I'm pretty damn sure he knows who all the playable characters are.

 

[Kouriozan]

Palutena sure has changed :lol

 

[Mariolee]

Sakurai is the developer of the game. I'm pretty damn sure he knows who all the playable characters are.

Lol what

 

[Xane]

I does confirm, Sakurai hasn't really unlocked all characters himself yet (see padlock).
That's why he was so angry last week and only gave us menus. Because the leaker spoiled the line-up to Sakurai

Xane being the only one who actually cared for the menus, confirmed?

 

[Kansoku]

I didn't see these posted yet, but after the hilarious Reyn Commentary Trailer, people made versiosn with other characters.

Fiora:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=pph_kz-jQvk

Dunban:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=lMZleSbrgJo

But the best one here, Riki:
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=-Byw61oLhsM

No Melia or Sharla yet.

Man, part of me is glad that I played Xenobalde with Japanese voices. The other part is sad that Shulk will have English voice in smash

 

[ryanofcall]

Is the map randomized in Smash Run, or is it always the same? (Enemies are randomized, right?)

I'm pretty sure I've seen two Smash Run videos by completely different Youtube channels (I think GameXplain and that "Mario's Castle" from yesterday) that showed up Koffings in the exact same place. Also the map seemed to be identical.
BUT this was the E3 built, so we really don't know for sure. There could be more Smash Run Maps for all we know.

 

[Kouriozan]

We *might* still get Event Mode. It's possible. I'm hoping for tons of challenges, too, and KI:U makes me hopeful.

Gotta keep faith!

 

[emb]

Pretty much same, really. My 3DS goes everywhere with me and cracking out a game or two every break will be awesome.

By the looks of it, that Nintendo Direct rumor was false?

There was another rumor? Was it Americo only?

 

[Kensho]

This is old, but i found it really interesting, what people in Japan wanted for smash 4:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-wii-u/64873505


They are getting a lot of what they wanted... But I still can't believe they want Roy in.


Who bets for Mewtwo, K Rool, Dixie and Bandana Dee?

 

[MxBxM]

Poor visual design?

I have come to understand that Sakurai doe not just put stuff up for the heck of it. It must mean something