Ah yes, that one too.
Instead they'll increase his count to 16 costumes.
He's greedy like that.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life
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He's greedy like that.
legendaryskitch
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Oh right, I forgot the A attacks were different...I still want Lucas in with blonde hair and no cap even if he has Ness' attacks
Can't speak for them, but I suspect it's either pride or a desire to stay relevant by adding content that's unlikely to be implemented by Nintendo anytime soon. Either way, they're treading dangerous waters now.
But I'm curious if they're still planning the light suit alt, since Nintendo's got a recolor in Smash now...
He just went somewhere together with the villager...but only the villager came back...
Even if nothing's uploaded to the site, you can pass the time by listening to this early preview of SSB4's Metroid arrangements.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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I meant Ice Climbers, if it wasn't clear. I'm bummed Squirtle and the like aren't coming back, although I get why.
MrSaturn99
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Hmmm...now I really want to see Ness's colors.
StreetsAhead
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Does anyone have a complete list of all the confirmed alts so far?
There will be a Lucas and Claus alt, bet on it.
Also that's the best Green Samus alt we've gotten in all the games! All I'm using is Green Samus, Light Suit Samus, and Dark Samus.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Nice pic of the day! Samus is looking great... gotta love that Dark Samus color alt, too.
Donkey Kong, Falco, King Dedede, Lucario, Luigi, Roy, Samus, Wario, and Yoshi. Not necessarily in that order.
Nah, at least not for the 3DS version. Both the Japanese and US release dates have been advertised far too heavily at far too many events and via too many channels for a delay this late in the game. I'm very confident in that. Who knows about the Wii U version, though... anything could happen with that, especially because we still don't have a release date and we're getting pretty close to the point where one would need to be announced almost immediately for Nintendo's marketing teams to have enough time to hype it up sufficiently. There are so many reasons Nintendo can't and shouldn't delay the Wii U version beyond the holidays, but this is starting to become reminiscent of the Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD Remaster release date situation last year...
Exactly! Sakurai has TONS of all-new info about the Wii U version to drip-feed us.
I completely agree. As cool as the alt costumes continue to be, it's becoming increasingly and troublingly clear (at least to me) that the Project M guys see themselves as setting the new baseline for and "saving" Smash from Sakurai after Brawl (not to mention Smash 4, which has already been smugly written off by a ton of Melee/Project M players if the Internet and trade shows are to be believed). I do applaud the Project M team's efforts to a degree, but they're way past the point where they started going too far IMO -- adding completely new characters (which they're apparently doing?) is really going to be overdoing it.
It's not the standard for me; my friends and I were curious about it and have since played Project M quite a bit, and none of us found any reason to keep playing it over regular Brawl. While it's got some really cool features (those alt costumes and no tripping) and the increase in speed/gravity can sometimes feel exhilarating, too many characters and pretty much all the stages are completely and utterly ruined (for us). Honestly, even without the character issues, the stages being mangled so badly (poor Green Hill Zone, good god) is reason enough for us to never look back. Yes, I know you can replace the PM stages with their original Brawl versions, but why even go to the trouble when we already enjoy pretty much everything about regular Brawl over PM to begin with?
Honestly, for my buddies and I, regular Brawl without tripping would pretty much be Smash nirvana for us... but even dealing with tripping is preferable to dealing with everything PM messed with. That said, Smash 4 will quite handily solve all these issues very soon.
Sorry, Dark Samus fans.
Donkey Kong, Falco, King Dedede, Lucario, Luigi, Roy, Samus, Wario, and Yoshi. Not necessarily in that order.
Nah, at least not for the 3DS version. Both the Japanese and US release dates have been advertised far too heavily at far too many events and via too many channels for a delay this late in the game. I'm very confident in that. Who knows about the Wii U version, though... anything could happen with that, especially because we still don't have a release date and we're getting pretty close to the point where one would need to be announced almost immediately for Nintendo's marketing teams to have enough time to hype it up sufficiently. There are so many reasons Nintendo can't and shouldn't delay the Wii U version beyond the holidays, but this is starting to become reminiscent of the Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD Remaster release date situation last year...
Exactly! Sakurai has TONS of all-new info about the Wii U version to drip-feed us.
I completely agree. As cool as the alt costumes continue to be, it's becoming increasingly and troublingly clear (at least to me) that the Project M guys see themselves as setting the new baseline for and "saving" Smash from Sakurai after Brawl (not to mention Smash 4, which has already been smugly written off by a ton of Melee/Project M players if the Internet and trade shows are to be believed). I do applaud the Project M team's efforts to a degree, but they're way past the point where they started going too far IMO -- adding completely new characters (which they're apparently doing?) is really going to be overdoing it.
It's not the standard for me; my friends and I were curious about it and have since played Project M quite a bit, and none of us found any reason to keep playing it over regular Brawl. While it's got some really cool features (those alt costumes and no tripping) and the increase in speed/gravity can sometimes feel exhilarating, too many characters and pretty much all the stages are completely and utterly ruined (for us). Honestly, even without the character issues, the stages being mangled so badly (poor Green Hill Zone, good god) is reason enough for us to never look back. Yes, I know you can replace the PM stages with their original Brawl versions, but why even go to the trouble when we already enjoy pretty much everything about regular Brawl over PM to begin with?
Honestly, for my buddies and I, regular Brawl without tripping would pretty much be Smash nirvana for us... but even dealing with tripping is preferable to dealing with everything PM messed with. That said, Smash 4 will quite handily solve all these issues very soon.
JB-the-Hunter
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It walks the line.Are you certain? The Super Metroid gravity suit looks a bit pink to me without the lighting affecting it:
Either way, you can look at it whichever way you want to. I like it better as an NES Varia suit so that's the way I'll look at it.
The Smash Bros. Miiverse fansite should have most alts and colours listed on each character's page.
Magnet_Man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TciwqJk3AF4&t=03m30s
Looks pretty purple to me...
Doesn't matter. Dark Samus and Light Suit all day.
Looks pretty purple to me...
Doesn't matter. Dark Samus and Light Suit all day.
StreetsAhead
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Thanks!
MillionVolts
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They probably won't do it but it'd be cool if for the Dark Samus color, they added some Phazon visual effects to some of her attacks.
Also uuggghh, I am not a fan of Bowser Jr. having the Koopalings for alternate colors. Real alternate colors for Junior, please.
Also uuggghh, I am not a fan of Bowser Jr. having the Koopalings for alternate colors. Real alternate colors for Junior, please.
ArcaneFreeze
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Woah it's up y'all
8 alt colors for everyone
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit."
" And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors."
I was reading the list from left to right and was like "these aren't matching up with the picture" but I forgot things are read from right to left in Japan which made alot more sense.
I'm pretty sure you can already do this with Brawl mods.
ShockingAlberto
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I don't think they'll announce the Wii U release date until after the 3DS version has been out for a few weeks. They don't want anyone to think "Eh, I can wait a little while longer." They want uncertainty.
Hispanic! At the Disco
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Holy moly, 8 alts! Sakurai had a field day with Dark Pit, I bet!
For new page:
"Pic of the day. Until now, you were only able to choose from four, or sometimes five or six colors for each character. This time, though, all characters have eight colors to choose from! The first four color schemes for Samus are based off her Varia Suit, Fusion Suit, Gravity Suit from Super Metroid, and the Dark Suit.
And here she is in the color schemes of the Gravity Suit from Metroid Prime, Green Samus (a regular in the Smash series), the Light Suit, and Dark Samus. A total of eight colors.
Eeep! Samus looks sooo good in this game. And all those color schemes look great!
I bet this is true.
OricWindstar
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This has been my thoughts. I see them announcing a release date a week or two after the 3DS version.
Masked Man
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ROY CONFIRMED FOR SMASH
"ROY'S OUR BOY! ROY'S OUR BOY...ER, TURTLE-THING!"
It took me a second to realize which Iggy you meant
Could there be any other!? ;P
Then again, Lemmy is where it's really at!
Vampirolol
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That's the NES Varia Suit with missiles turned on. Sorry Samurai.
I always assumed it was just purple with the "pink" areas just being where the light's reflecting brightly.Are you certain? The Super Metroid gravity suit looks a bit pink to me without the lighting affecting it:
Here is the entire sprite sheet. Still looks a bit pink to me.
http://shane10665.tripod.com/id2.html
http://shane10665.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/metroid_sprites.bmp
I dunno, most of them are easy but I always assumed the pink color was a reference to the NES varia instead of the Super Metroid Varia.
At least here the pink is a bit more purple-y.
This isn't a complaint, it's more me just being surprised.
Agreed. I think I mentioned this before but they will only reveal Smash Wii U date a week or 2 after the 3DS version releases worldwide. If it was delayed next year, they would've mentioned it much earlier (like Xenoblade X and Captain Toad in Europe).
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Then I would actually use Lucas.
I don't think they'd do this. I honestly think Lucas will be DLC if he is cut-since the first we heard of Lucas being cut was in the same Gematsu leak that mentioned DLC. Probably the first DLC too, maybe free DLC to try to encourage people that DLC wouldn't be a rip off.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can too, but honestly, we can't be assed to look into it and actually do it.
We've come this far putting up with and still play the hell out of Brawl despite tripping, and with Smash 4 right on the cusp of release, there's less reason than ever to bother!It's not the standard for me; my friends and I were curious about it and have since played Project M quite a bit, and none of us found any reason to keep playing it over regular Brawl. While it's got some really cool features (those alt costumes and no tripping) and the increase in speed/gravity can sometimes feel exhilarating, too many characters and pretty much all the stages are completely and utterly ruined. Honestly, even without the character issues, the stages being mangled so badly (poor Green Hill Zone, good god) is reason enough for us to never look back. Yes, I know you can replace the PM stages with their original Brawl versions, but why even go to the trouble when we already enjoy pretty much everything about regular Brawl over PM to begin with?
Honestly, for my buddies and I, regular Brawl without tripping would pretty much be Smash nirvana for us... but even dealing with tripping is preferable to dealing with everything PM messed with. That said, Smash 4 will quite handily solve all these issues very soon.
You could always just look for the "No tripping" code for Brawl, create a new RSBE01.gct containing only that code (and unrestricted pause camera maybe) and boot Brawl with GeckOS. Tada - party like it's 2008 (that's pretty much how my RSBE01.gct looked back in 2008 before we had Brawl+ and ProjecM lol), Brawl without tripping and no other changes
EDIT: Sounds like you use the hackless ProjectM? In that case you would have to look up the smashstack exploit. Just need to convert GeckOS boot.dol to an boot.elf using this tool and place it on the root of your SD-Card instead of the boot.elf of hackmii. Place the RSBE01.gct in a folder called "codes" on the root of your SD and the process will be exactly the same is hackless ProjectM since that uses the smashstack explit as well
I did say Samus' were pretty easy, but some can be rather obscure i.e. Captain Falcon's dark outfit being based off of a Japanese advert.
It also means colours like Samus' green outfit are confirmed to just be a colour and not a reference so people are left scratching their heads hunting for a possible connection.
That would be as weird as the Koopalings alt for Bowser Jr. I wonder if the announcer will change how he calls the names, as well as if the alt characters will have different voice dubs.
It's a bit more than 2GB if I remember correctly.
GameGuru59
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ROY CONFIRMED FOR SMASH
Oh God please let it be true! I always picked Roy over Marth in Melee!
2.1GB according to preorder cards in Japan.
If Dark Pit, Dr. Mario and Lucina began as alts, they'd likely have had similar alterations, so I could see the Koopalings, Alph and any other hypothetical character-changing alts doing the same.
Vampirolol
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Green Samus could be from Other M, she had that color during younger days I think. But Pink Samus is 100% from Metroid, come on! The light blue visor makes it clear.
fredrancour
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One of the koopalings rumored to be bowser jr's alts is named roy. No rumor or leak seems to indicate Fire Emblem's Roy is returning
The winky face means he knew people wouldn't think of the koopas first.
PaperFlame
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I think Robin and the Koopalings are going to be my main characters now.
That would be awful. Lucas I could just about understand, but Wolf's normals are drastically different from Fox's, and the reason why he's the only space animal I actually find enjoyable to use. Making him an alt would be an insult and a betrayal.
C'mon people, If Lucas and Wolf come back it will be as full characters - not alts!
Koppaling alts actually make Bowser Jr. a tolerable choice as I don't have to look at his stupid mug
Koppaling alts actually make Bowser Jr. a tolerable choice as I don't have to look at his stupid mug
I'm still not completely sold on all the koopalings being in the game. Seems like too much work for a single character. Announcer, voices, a winner/loser screen for each character, etc.
Masked Man
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But Lucas's normal attacks are SO much better than Ness's. I would rather have him excluded than demoted to a mere palette swap.
GameGuru59
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Oh... well, they could still do it anyway
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