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Asus ROG Swift PG278Q monitor, 1440p/144hz/G-Sync
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Tomb Raider is effin great in 3D.
Lord_Balkan
Member
Because if you have any variable framerate / framerate under the native refresh rate what so ever, you are susceptible to screen tearing unless you turn v-sync on. And once you turn v-sync on, you are susceptible to input lag. GSync is actually probably more useful to people that have older hardware, since they will be able to run games (30fps+ at a variable rate) much more smoothly and pleasantly than any other monitor would. It is just honestly beneficial to everyone.
Getting rid of input lag and screen tearing caused by arbitrary limitations on how older monitors use to work is no gimmick. It should have been a solved problem a while ago, but I am glad its finally getting solved / fixed.
I always used vsync of some description and no, I rarely experienced any input lag at 120hz. Even with 2 x 780ti, games that run at locked 120 fps are few and far between, often regardless of graphics settings, because the amount of CPU power needed is gigantic.
You'll notice I said in some games G-Sync is a revelation. I think you're also forgetting that G-Sync is designed to reduce stutter. Vsync causes stuttering in some games and until now your choices were simply vsync on and hope the stuttering was not bad, or vsync off and live with tearing. The consistency I talked about in G-Sync mode comes from the delivery of frames never being interrupted.
Was this actual Amazon stock or still that DEC Trader lie?
"Ships from and sold by DEC Trader."
I've been monitoring the page waiting for Amazon themselves to get some back in.. at some point a second round of stock has to appear.
I wish there was a way to block marketplace sellers from the Amazon preferences page.
blackMamba1187
Member
Ya. I managed to order one for $799 from Amazon. Delivery on Monday.
edit: Update: My order is shipped! Delivery tomorrow!
Just got my monitor Tuesday and I think Titanfall is the best example of how good g-sync works. Titanfall runs mosty 120 fps and has occasional dips to to around 80-90 fps. With v-sync off it was a screen tearing mess on a 60hz panel, which is interesting because I never had fps below 60.
While running g-sync I have absolutely no stuttering and no discernable input lag. Even though the framerates dip in certain areas of gameplay I haven't played Titanfall in awhile and while testing out the monitor last night I didn't want to stop playing because it was so much fun and I felt like every death was not due to lag, but was due to my reaction time and skill. I had another round where I topped the leaderboard as well.
Same thing with Battlefield 4. Smooth as silk gameplay and no stutter or lag. I am getting pinpoint shots with ease. DICE hasn't even put out the new core gameplay patch and with this monitor it feels like an improved game.
Another benefit going from a smaller screen to 27 in. I have moved the monitor farther away and I constantly am adjusting it further because it feels too close.
The last few nights of gameplay have been the most immersive and enjoyable I've had gaming in a long long time.
Do not regret this purchase one bit and will be interesting to see how this technology progresses in the next couple of years. Can't wait for a new top end card as well.
I've had mine for about a week now, and everyone's thoughts above pretty much summarize mine as well, it's an amazing gaming monitor.
It's not perfect though, so I'll note my frustrations with the monitor
-Very aggressive matte coating, the shining graininess is readily apparent on brighter colors. If a glossy model ever comes out, I will be selling mine in a heartbeat if I can get a glossy one.
-GSync flickering when FPS falls under 30 (such as a loading screens or hitches when something large loads in a game) is very distracting and annoying. DO NOT get this monitor if you cannot maintain more than 30 fps.
-The monitor's light never seems to change color for me, despite switching modes. Oh well, I'm ok with the permanent red
-On an all black screen, there's quite a bit of backlight bleed
-TN viewing angles, but I knew what I was signing up for
-USB ports are hilariously inaccessible
It's not perfect though, so I'll note my frustrations with the monitor
-Very aggressive matte coating, the shining graininess is readily apparent on brighter colors. If a glossy model ever comes out, I will be selling mine in a heartbeat if I can get a glossy one.
-GSync flickering when FPS falls under 30 (such as a loading screens or hitches when something large loads in a game) is very distracting and annoying. DO NOT get this monitor if you cannot maintain more than 30 fps.
-The monitor's light never seems to change color for me, despite switching modes. Oh well, I'm ok with the permanent red
-On an all black screen, there's quite a bit of backlight bleed
-TN viewing angles, but I knew what I was signing up for
-USB ports are hilariously inaccessible
Why would you buy an $800 monitor which is primarily designed for playing games at high framerates if your PC can't even run games above 30fps?
Drama Zed Nod
Member
I use the USB ports on the monitor for my mouse and keyboard, but yea, they were a bugger to get in.
Doing that frees up an extra port on the back of the PC though.
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Deleted member 1159
Unconfirmed Member
Shit I haven't even thought to boot this up yet. I was playing Lords of Shadow last night and shitting my pants at how smooth and responsive it is...sure beats the sub 30 FPS Xbox 360 version I played like 4 years ago.
BTW I agree with the above criticisms of the ports...really dumb placement, probably sacrificed accessibility for the form factor.
Are you referring to the red ring? That's meant to stay red, you have the option to turn it on or off in the OSD settings. It's for looks only.
There's a much smaller status LED on the bottom right of the screen (on the bottom of the bezel) that changes color based on mode.
Amber/Orange = Standby
White = On (No special mode)
Red = G-Sync
Green = 3D
Yellow = ULMB
Yes, there's way too much grain on the screen, it makes browsing light pages like Neogaf a real pain. I never had that issue with my previous screens. It really bothers me a lot.
plagiarize
Banned
You wouldn't but, it's not primarily designed for that. A lot of stuff written up on Gsync talks about its benefits in the 40 to 60 fps range.
I just wish tiger direct would get them back in stock and ship the one I have on back order
3D, ULMB, Gsync, 1440p, 144 hz, all selling points for me.
likedamaster
Member
The monitor I've been waiting all my life for but now I can't afford it. I made some big purchases recently and money's gone. Currently on a 30in x1600p monitor, but that Gsync though.
I've always prefered matte>shiny for gaming.
I've always prefered matte>shiny for gaming.
robgrab
Member
As excited as I am for a G-Sync monitor to finally hit the market I always feel like you're giving up one thing to get another. No one monitor seems to have everything. For instance, I've become accustomed to my 21:9 aspect ratio monitor but the contrast ratio is crap plus it's capped at 60Hz. I'd love to have a 34" curved 4K gaming monitor with a 21:9 aspect ratio, the black levels and contrast ratio of an OLED, refresh rate of 144Hz with either G-Sync or whatever similar technology becomes standard. I realize this is a pipe dream but I can dream.
Dark theme forever.
Also, yes the anti-glare coating is a bit much. I don't like gloss though either,so not sure what would be better.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Well, in 5-10 years you'll be able to get those things all in one monitor while still bemoaning the fact that there aren't 8k monitors at 300hz yet or whatever the new shiny technology is.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
So, what's it like when there's frame rate fluctuations with G-Sync on? Is it more or less noticeable with G-Sync compared to normal 60hz models?
Frame Rate fluctuations is the one thing in gaming that gives me motion sickness, so I was kinda hoping maybe this monitor would help with that.
Frame Rate fluctuations is the one thing in gaming that gives me motion sickness, so I was kinda hoping maybe this monitor would help with that.
It's one of the major benefits of the technology. Instead of the GPU being slave to the display's fixed refresh rate, a display in G-Sync mode changes its refresh rate to match the game's frame rate (between 30 and 144fps). The result is a very smooth gameplay experience, far superior to a standard display under the same conditions, in my opinion.
Depends on what you mean, but as long as the framerate is over 30 fps I am seeing smooth gameplay even when the FPS bounces around from 50 - 80 fps or more.
The only slowdown I notice is when there is lag or if the framerate goes below 20. Even then it isn't jarring as much.
Not sure if that helps...
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks guys, that's encouraging.
I guess I was just thinking that since the monitor's refresh rate itself would be changing, that would somehow make framerate drops even more noticeable, like the two things changing at once would somehow be double the change from the normal way of only the frame rate changing and would thus be doubly noticeable.
But I guess it makes sense that it doesn't work like that.
I guess I was just thinking that since the monitor's refresh rate itself would be changing, that would somehow make framerate drops even more noticeable, like the two things changing at once would somehow be double the change from the normal way of only the frame rate changing and would thus be doubly noticeable.
But I guess it makes sense that it doesn't work like that.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
I'm on an OC'd 780Ti and i'm enjoying all the benefits, so you should be fine.
Looks very nice. Last Light was terrible in SLI for me and looks smooth in the background for him. I'll have to give it another go and see if Gsync fixed my issues.
G-sync supports Surround now?
Yes. Need 3 GPUs and he said a driver should be dropping in a month with official support.
Nice. That reminds me of a post I responded to not too long ago.
Go crazy now.
So I mentioned earlier that I grabbed this monitor a bit early with plans on upgrading my GPU really soon, so I'm currently running it with a measly 580 and can't take advantage of G-sync. Does anybody have any thoughts on why I can only run it at 85hz right now, though? I mean, it's gotta be some limitation with my 580, right?
If you're fine with toning some settings down, yeah. Titans are strong but at 1440p and 120fps something's gotta give. That said, slap another one of those bad bitches in and things will really start to fly.
You wouldn't but, it's not primarily designed for that. A lot of stuff written up on Gsync talks about its benefits in the 40 to 60 fps range.
I just wish tiger direct would get them back in stock and ship the one I have on back order
3D, ULMB, Gsync, 1440p, 144 hz, all selling points for me.
I actually like it most for high fps. Can now let games burst up past 120FPS instead of locking at 60. Better animation, lower latency than vsync and no tearing.
Fahrenheit
Banned
Gotta see this thing with my own eyes, TN is kinda scary. Still waiting on a PLS/VA 1440p monitor thats G sync or free sync that can do 120hz.
michaelius
Banned
AMD users with Swift have similar problems.
Ally1987
Member
the problem is that i cant get a Titan(not black or Z) anywhere no more. so in other words, getting this monitor would be pointless for me then?
Oh shit, I forgot that these things are like shiny pokemon now. Even if a Titan can't get you to 120fps @1440p with modern games, you still have the benefits of G-Sync, which is huge when we consider just how much fps fluctuates these days.
I have this display and a DK2 with 0.4.1 installed. I've had no problems whatsoever.
Why would it be pointless? It's perfectly well suited. Can you run games at WQHD at 30+fps?
It's not true.
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Deleted member 1159
Unconfirmed Member
I think there needs to be some clarification on the strengths of this monitor. Yes, running games at 120 FPS is amazeballs, but one of the primary advantages to gsync is how well it handles inevitable fluctuations in frame rate, which it does very smoothly and seamlessly, and without input lag. I wouldn't say running games over 120 FPS is the biggest draw at all as we've already had monitors that can do that. The real amazing thing is how smooth it handles the variations, because with vsync you'd still get stuttering even maintaining, say, a range of 70-100 FPS, and you'd still have input lag.
Ally1987
Member
i dont know. my current monitor is only 1920x1080 60hz
I will post the same as others to stress the point because it is frustrating to see the "you need to run at 120 fps" for this monitor. I have a single 780ti and run many graphic intensive games on this monitor at 40-90 fps. G-sync has made the experience with these games absolutely amazing.
In fact this monitor will actually be better in some ways for folks with a single card. Not sure what else to say that hasn't already been added.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
This man. He speaks the truth.
Interesting, thanks. I don't think I'm going to worry about it.
Yes. I'm extremely input lag sensitive, I bought it almost entirely for the input lag since I can't handle vsync even at 100Hz like my old monitor could do. Now I can play CS:GO at 128Hz with no input lag and no tearing. It's actually improved my gameplay a little even.