A Link to the Past
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Honestly I'm more surprised by Dry Bowser's absence. Modders did it, and the character has been around since New Super Mario Bros., and has since appeared in Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, and Mario Kart Wii.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition
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Honestly I'm more surprised by Dry Bowser's absence. Modders did it, and the character has been around since New Super Mario Bros., and has since appeared in Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 8, and Mario Kart Wii.
Yeah, having someone dance all over your pizza as an integral part of their cooking process seems extremely sketchy to me as well.
Dry Bowser's not in? Well, looks like Masked DeDeDe is now the second most-obvious alt absence. Dry Bowser would've been so hype. But, as Mario Kart has shown, he'll probably be DLC. :^P
Is it wrong if I'd be all over an alt costume pack for this game? It feels wrong.
Aaronrules380
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Yeah, I kind of figured it was hold b to cycle, release when you get what you want
MrSaturn99
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Yeah I really don't get it and its super embarrassing :/
LOL the bitterness is real
Look, I'm sincerely sorry you're favorite (?) character got cut, the Ice Climbers were good people. However, losing characters, even unique ones, between sequels in a fighting game series isn't a new thing. The team had priorities, they had a budget, they had a ship date. There's no conspiracy or ineptitude at play here - some dudes just don't make it
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Problem is the I felt that Pikmin is the main character in the game. So it wouldn't make sense for me at least.
Green Mamba
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Has anyone found what Kirby's power is when he swallows Shulk? I wouldn't think it'd just be Monado Arts.
Me too, though I was hoping for a Final Smash.
Well, DDD did get a new final smash didn't he? And the person reporting from the Japanese demo said he didn't get a good look at the first half of the animation, right? *wink wink nudge nudge*
;_;
Another thing I'm shocked about is the lack of Rock Pikmin. We haven't seen Olimar's custom specials yet right? Could there feasibly be a neutral special that replaces Purples with Rocks or something?
Smash attracts people other than fighting game fans. I'm guessing that's why there are clone complaints.
superNESjoe
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Melee is more like a homemade flatbread pizza.
There are a lot of little "isms" like this that you only get with exposure to the Smash fandom versus other fighting game rosters. Hell even other crossover fighters don't get scutinized and cause weird hangups for people like this. I was there for the Marvel to Ultimate Marvel transition somewhat sad because there was no Megaman in Ultimate (or even vanilla) and I was also there for people getting upset because "trenchcoat teleporters" were all the best, but that doesn't compare to some of the stuff here.
I'm not amongst the clone or cut complainers, but I will say I personally haven't played a round of Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, or any other fighting game in my life aside from Smash Brothers. So Smash definitely does attract that crowd
because I am one of them.
Not sure. I'm curious though: Has the Nintendog assist trophy and the Nintendogs in the background of the Playroom remained constant throughout all the gameplay videos? It'd be pretty a pretty neat detail if there were different breeds that switched randomly.
That is the best question I've heard all day.
OricWindstar
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I think there are clone complaints because Smash is drawing from pre-existing material, so a clone comes across as taking a place of the character they wanted for a lot of people.
Though, to clarify, I have no issue with clones.
Though, to clarify, I have no issue with clones.
Duck Hunt Dog alt. Believe.
So am I. I'm also a clone complainer.
BassForever
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Nintendojitsu
Banned
Would love these to be a part of Mario's colors. Someone has got to check on the little guy.
Change the farthest from top right with Super Mario Bros 2./USA colors and its perfect.
I don't think it's a conspiracy. I'm just tired of people making excuses for Sakurai when he's proven himself to be inept and incapable. It's easy to say characters get cut all the time, but Ice Climbers are the oldest non-clone in the series to get the axe.LOL the bitterness is real
Look, I'm sincerely sorry you're favorite (?) character got cut, the Ice Climbers were good people. However, losing characters, even unique ones, between sequels in a fighting game series isn't a new thing. The team had priorities, they had a budget, they had a ship date. There's no conspiracy or ineptitude at play here - some dudes just don't make it
Oro vs Gouki? Like Vega (Dictator) and Gouken, Shun Goku Satsu, they both die, and bring back cause fuck off
Most fan's fan fiction are way better than SF plot overall.BTW, I don't like Oro's design but he had a good background.
Fox : Landmaster
Falco : Landmaster
Wolf : guess what? Landmaster
THIS is embarrassing.
And don't talk about shoto, there is more differences between Ryu and Ken than Fox, Falco and Wolf. I will not talk about Gouki, Sakura, Sean, Evil Ryu, Gouken, Oni ... Its like night and day.
Clones in Smash are just a way too make the roster look bigger, stop making clones, and take the time to revamp chars like Ganondorf, Toon Link, Donkey Kong... I like clones but I think there is enough veteran character who deserve a proper moveset.
But Mario already has a USA outfit. :^P
Dimitri LH
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Seven Force
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I do remember people having some really weird hangups about Marvel's roster. I specifically remember someone equating Spidey and Cap to shotoclones on the level of Ken and Sakura.
That, and all of the "Where's Venom/Gambit/*insertMvC2veteranhere*/etc." complaints.
"Too many sword users" is probably my favorite nonsensical Smash roster gripe, though.
Would love these to be a part of Mario's colors. Someone has got to check on the little guy.
I'm pretty indifferent to that 4th alt, but the SMB1 alt! Woooo that would be the greatest.
Beelzebufo
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Uh... What?
OmegaSmash
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I remember a lot of complaints over no Gene in Ultimate, and no Cyclops/Venom in MvC3 in addition to the MM uproar.
Old news. But yes. Hype! (Hope it's true)
I just realized Kirby is gonna have a Duck Hunt Dog power. We're going to have a Dog Kirby. And he's going to throw ducks.
/dead
The Captain
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I found one of Olimar's alts.
Gameplay trailer here!
I'm guessing he only meant that D.K needed a moveset revamp, not that he is a clone.
oh god...
Jawmuncher
Member
DK has been pretty good though Moveset wise.
Don't really see why he's need that much of a revamp.
I know the 4th alt is a real one in the game, but what is it referencing? A bit odd that it's the only Mario costume (so far in Smash 4) without a reference...
The Captain
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"Personally, I prefer the air!" he said, while getting into a Landmaster.
Jawmuncher
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The Captain
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Ai No Uta is great. Did you know it sold better in Japan than Pikmin did?
Ehh... some of the clones are more similar to their counterparts than others. For instance, I'd say the difference between Mario and Luigi would be more on par with Ryu and Ken. (even though a SF character is much more complex than Smash's)
However, comparing Pit and Dark Pit (assuming he is a straight up clone) is basically comparing Wolverine and bone claw Wolverine.
However, comparing Pit and Dark Pit (assuming he is a straight up clone) is basically comparing Wolverine and bone claw Wolverine.
Nintendojitsu
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I'm not too sure. Thinking about it as I type, it may be from SMB2 USA?
edit: ^lol nevermind!^
Jawmuncher
Member
That's when you know you got something good and also sadness when you think of the game sales.
I thought I had escaped the madness of that...thing...long ago...
Beelzebufo
Banned
He's letting you know that he's not happy about being in the land master. It makes sense.
PadWarrior
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Those are his Mario Golf colors.
I meant this.
I'd be happy with that alt as well.