Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

I'm not sure I buy the trophy count thing. Couldn't it have just been sorted into some category that only has 11 trophies in it? I don't know what category would have Barbara and 10 other trophies but I'm not completely sold.

I'm still hoping though.
 
People are getting pretty desperate lol. They just duplicated the random select box which doesn't make any sense from a UI standpoint. Pretty bad fake tbh.

I don't think that was intended to mislead anyone, it was just to show that there are potential slots left.

Thinking about it, that leak (Ninka?) from a while back seems pretty much spot-on. Got all the hidden newcomers that we know about so far correct along with Alph being an Olimar alt. That leak also said that Snake, Ice Climbers, Lucas and Wolf were cut so it's not looking likely.
 
Same. The roster looks pretty damn finished to me, and DLC doesn't seem all that likely for me.

How exactly do you look at the leaked roster and go "looks pretty damn finished and no dlc" despite the various issues people have pointed out and the inconsistencies with every other Smash final roster?

I still say the leaked roster was everyone in the esrb build, but more characters were still planned hence the lock on all star mode
 
Way back miiverse updated with a pic of the day that involved the ice climbers polar bear. It was replaced with a different pic and it faded from memory. However I did make a gif for it that's just been sitting on my hard drive until now...

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I'm not sure I buy the trophy count thing. Couldn't it have just been sorted into some category that only has 11 trophies in it? I don't know what category would have Barbara and 10 other trophies but I'm not completely sold.

I'm still hoping though.

It's your trophy haul from a game of Smash Run. The player got 11 trophies, Barbara being the 6th one. The screen is reviewing the results of the game.
 
Megaman? He'll never make it in. Capcom barely supports him as is.
lol

Seriously, though, the blue bomber deserves his spot on the roster with Sonic. It's funny that a character with a metal gear for their symbol took Snake's spot.
 
Way back miiverse updated with a pic of the day that involved the ice climbers polar bear. It was replaced with a different pic and it faded from memory. However I did make a gif for it that's just been sitting on my hard drive until now...

DesertedSmugAmericanalligator.gif

Hahahaha.......awwww :'(
 
Way back miiverse updated with a pic of the day that involved the ice climbers polar bear. It was replaced with a different pic and it faded from memory. However I did make a gif for it that's just been sitting on my hard drive until now...

DesertedSmugAmericanalligator.gif
That is cold.

But I still have faith in our icy friends.
 
So if there is costume DLC what do you want?

We already have:
Fierce Deity Link
Wireframe AND Pink Hoody Lil' Mac
Sexist Classic Zero Suit Samus
Male Power Fantasy Swimsuit Shulk,
Male/Femal Robin
Alph Olimar
Male/Female Wii Fit Trianer

I'd like a Proto Man or Bass alt for Mega Man (though the FS might not work as well. Unless maybe you swap out the other Mega Mans for Zero, ZX Zero and like Protoman.exe or something?).
 
also,there would be no reason to show the roster in the video if that wasn't the final roster

The video has to show how a standard game session works according to the description on the ESRB site. That's likely why the character selection screen is there in the first place, since it'd obviously never have any effect on the game's rating.

There's no reason at all adding more or less boxes would affect the rating of the game. So, I don't see why people think that having everything unlocked would be some kind of necessity. Well, I could see the point if everything in the video had shown to always be completely unlocked, but that wasn't the case.
 
How exactly do you look at the leaked roster and go "looks pretty damn finished and no dlc" despite the various issues people have pointed out and the inconsistencies with every other Smash final roster?

I still say the leaked roster was everyone in the esrb build, but more characters were still planned hence the lock on all star mode

the 3DS' UI elements look odd all around, so the roster not making sense doesn't seem all that weird in comparisons.
 
also,there would be no reason to show the roster in the video if that wasn't the final roster
Why? It's the ESRB, they're not concerned with what characters are in the game. They're just concerned with seeing general footage of the game to judge which age groups it's appropriate for.
 
#TeamNoHope. Totally hopeless.

Actually that's not right. But it's close enough.

RIP Ice Climbers. And those one offs from Brawl too.
 
If retailers don't already have their copies of the game, I imagine they'll be receiving them within the next 24 hours.

By Wednesday at the latest. The game needs to be in stores on Thursday for the midnight release. Every hour beyond Monday business hours we are more and more likely to have our full retail leak.

Why? It's the ESRB, they're not concerned with what characters are in the game. They're just concerned with seeing general footage of the game to judge which age groups it's appropriate for.

And this is correct. It's not even speculative, the ESRB only needs examples of extreme content in particular categories.
 
So if there is costume DLC what do you want?

We already have:
Fierce Deity Link
Wireframe AND Pink Hoody Lil' Mac
Sexist Classic Zero Suit Samus
Male Power Fantasy Swimsuit Shulk,
Male/Femal Robin
Alph Olimar


I'd like a Proto Man or Bass alt for Mega Man (though the FS might not work as well. Unless maybe you swap out the other Mega Mans for Zero, ZX Zero and like Protoman.exe or something?).
Isn't it easier to wait until we've seen all the option.

Honestly, I'd like a custom colour option (which just changes colours so doesn't allow anything fancy like Skyloft Link). I don't basic colours are worth making as DLC so it would be the only way to get certain palette references if they aren't already in the game i.e. Wario's Woods NES Wario.
 
Shulk's placement is just weird. If you add characters, it moves Shulk in between clone characters and third-party characters. If you keep it as is, why wouldn't they just put Shulk up one row to "complete" it?

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If this was the roster, it would seem complete. Especially since Shulk would be near the "new series", and it ends with clone characters, thus capping off Nintendo characters. Then third parties follow. But it isn't the case.

Also based on this CSS, you can't add Dixie without breaking the Metroid row. If you add Dixie and Impa, you break the Kirby row. If you add Dixie, Impa and Ridley, you still break Kirby. If you add Dixie, Impa, Ridley and a single rep series character or another Kid Icarus/Metroid/Fire Emblem character, you move Kirby to the next row fully but break Pokemon. If you add Dixie (Diddy clone), Impa (Sheik clone) and Ridley (Charizard clone) to the clone corner, it would make Shulk (an original character) move randomly in between clones for no apparent reason.

As much as I hate to admit this, based on all of the above, I think we just have a Brawl leak + Missing Wolf type scenario again. It would also make the Gametsu leak true (except for Chrom).

This is probably the most likely final roster:
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Shulk was only put there so that there would be a clone corner.
 
Way back miiverse updated with a pic of the day that involved the ice climbers polar bear. It was replaced with a different pic and it faded from memory. However I did make a gif for it that's just been sitting on my hard drive until now...

DesertedSmugAmericanalligator.gif

Woah... Was the "1984-2013" part of the original GIF, or was that touching tribute added after we learned we weren't getting those poor souls back (Barring DLC)?

And why are we dividing into teams again? I mean, I know we're not allowed to do that anymore after launch (Probably for the best), but did something happen to make the leak roster final? I'm immediately jumping on #TeamHope, but only because I really want Ridley.
 
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh idk.........



As someone else mentioned, there were like four or so leaks that had...six characters? Or was it five?

I just remember Mewtwo, Chorus Men, Dixie and Impa.

Oh, that. Yeah, it's just five. :v

What sucks is that I can hardly fit my bare minimum into this 56-count roster (potentially)!

I want to add Marshal, Dixie Kong, and Ridley, but I also want to add Lucas, Wolf, and Ice Climber(s)! I suppose if I had to choose it would be Wolf, but by the end of the day, I think that everyone else has a bit more of value.
 
By Wednesday at the latest. The game needs to be in stores on Thursday for the midnight release. Every hour beyond Monday business hours we are more and more likely to have our full retail leak.



And this is correct. It's not even speculative, the ESRB only needs examples of extreme content in particular categories.

It's 6:47 in the morning in Tokyo. Stores should open within the next few hours.
 
I think we know the final roster, bar any DLC that may happen.

We had the Gematsu leak and the SmashBoards leak.

The Gematsu leaker obviously was involved with the game early on, which is why he thought Chrom was in and could only name "Pokemon from X/Y". The Chorus Kids were also in consideration at this time. The leaker said that Lucas might be cut, but that DLC was being considered and that he could be in that way.

The SmashBoards leak definitively said that Lucas, in addition to Wolf, Snake, and Ice Climbers, were cut. It's a safe bet to say this leaker had access to development information well after the Gematsu leaker.

So if there were 5+ additional characters left to be revealed in the final game, who the heck would they be? You would have to guess at LEAST one out of Lucas/Wolf/Ice Climbers would show up, but that doesn't seem to be the case. So who would the additional characters be? Would the Chorus Kids show up? Would Mewtwo return? Why wouldn't any of the other leakers mention that? I think the roster we've seen is what we'll get, unless DLC happens later down the road.

There are some interesting things to think about the leak, though. Why did the Gematsu leaker know that Lucas was in danger but didn't say anything about Wolf, Snake, and the Ice Climbers? What happened to the Chorus Kids? And as for the leaked images and video, where did that actually come from?
 
Also based on this CSS, you can't add Dixie without breaking the Metroid row. If you add Dixie and Impa, you break the Kirby row. If you add Dixie, Impa and Ridley, you still break Kirby. If you add Dixie, Impa, Ridley and a single rep series character or another Kid Icarus/Metroid/Fire Emblem character, you move Kirby to the next row fully but break Pokemon. If you add Dixie (Diddy clone), Impa (Sheik clone) and Ridley (Charizard clone) to the clone corner, it would make Shulk (an original character) move randomly in between clones for no apparent reason.

2/3 of Impa, Ridley, and Dixie doesn't break the Kirby row

If Impa or Dixie are a clone(s), then they can move a row down, then add Isaac to standalones, +1 more standalone (thinking chorus men) would put clones and 3rd party at bottom, and it works out

Not saying I believe any of those characters are in, besides chorus men, and (hopefully) Isaac, but just pointing out a problem in the Kirby row being broken statement
 
Guys, again, there is zero reason to believe the ESRB footage included all the characters. The ESRB doesn't need to see a complete roster screenshot, they just want to see how the game looks and which parts might be considered inappropriate.

The only characters the ESRB footage disproves are ones who might affect the rating, like Snake
or Ridley.
P.S. What i'm hoping for is 3D rhythm tengoku trophies. That's #TeamHope
Why do all these hashtag campaigns end up being fronts?

R.I.P. #TeamHope
 
And why are we dividing into teams again? I mean, I know we're not allowed to do that anymore after launch (Probably for the best), but did something happen to make the leak roster final? I'm immediately jumping on #TeamHope, but only because I really want Ridley.

The other way around actually - there's new evidence that points against the idea of the ESRB video featuring multiple saves, which would mean that the leaked roster certainly isn't final.
 
As much as I hate to admit this, based on all of the above, I think we just have a Brawl leak + Missing Wolf type scenario again. It would also make the Gametsu leak true (except for Chrom).

This is probably the most likely final roster:
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Shulk was only put there so that there would be a clone corner.

I'll be honest: Chorus Kids and Ice Climbers go hand in hand to me. They're multi-characters, they're the only non-playable series with enemies in Smash Run, and those enemies have been completely avoided being talked about by official sources. If they're not in, it's because of development problems, and if one is in, then the other probably is too.
 
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