Nvidia GTX 980/970 3DMark Scores Leaked- from Videocardz.com

Really hope the next Apple refresh skips the 800M series and goes straight to the 980M as their best option on iMac.
 
If you're not vendor-loyal, R9 290 still is the best bang for high-end buck.

I'm not. I just want a card that'll cost me ~500$ and give me the best performance possible. R9 290 is around 450$ here in canada and 780Ti ~650. If Nvidia releases a card priced that 450-500$ that beats both of these in performance then it would be the default choice for everyone looking to build a new PC.
 
Really hope the next Apple refresh skips the 800M series and goes straight to the 980M as their best option on iMac.

Yeah, cause when you game, game on hardware with massively over priced 'upgrade' options and that has no games nearly at all natively made for it! Extremeeeeeeeee!
 
If they actually price the 970 at $300 I will bite, no problems with my 670 right now, but I'm over due for my 2 year gfx card upgrade.
 
Laptop version looks like it got a pretty substantial bump, but on the desktop front it's pretty minor. Looks like next year is going to be the year to jump in.
 
I might hold off ordering my PC...

Complete noob question, but these don't require an x99 motherboard or anything do they?
 
I might hold off ordering my PC...

Complete noob question, but these don't require an x99 motherboard or anything do they?

No. Graphics cards are generally mother board agnostic, they all come with the latest slot.

Your main worry should be fitting the card into a potential case.

Well, unless you want to sli or shit in which case motherboard matters.
 
Yeah, cause when you game, game on hardware with massively over priced 'upgrade' options and that has no games nearly at all natively made for it! Extremeeeeeeeee!

1. Who said anything about gaming? And if you want Windows titles, Parallels/Bootcamp.
2. There are other things a GPU is useful for other than gaming.
3. What is wrong for wanting the best option in a computer? This isn't a price thing, just why would you snide someone for wanting the option.

I've got a 680 SLI rig and a 770M SLI laptop. I can game pretty fucking hard on any machine I want. There's no need to make rude comments that don't add anything to the conversation.
 
( ¯\_(:/)_/¯)

Oh well... maybe next year.

Maybe I'll just wait for 8 core processors to hit $400-$450 in a few years and then do a complete rebuild.
 
It's not intended for 780 Ti owners. It's marketed towards people clinging to GTX 580's or mid-tier 600 series owners (really anything below a GTX 680).

I'll be satisfied as an upgrade over my regular ol' 780. Selling the 780 to a friend since it's only had 7 months of moderate use at this point. I bought the 780 as a stopgap measure after these damn cards failed to release in March/April this year!
 
Sad thing is, just like intel and co, everyone is focusing on low power and mobile space.

Sooooooooo, every year new models come out that are slight improvements when it comes to raw powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, but they always hype up the 'battery savings' 'increased low power performance'.... etc....
 
I bought 2 Titan Blacks a couple of months ago. I feel like I can breath a sigh of relief now. In fact I can buy a 3rd without feeling bad about it now. Now if only I could fight through this 5930/5960 upgrade itch.
 
Sad thing is, just like intel and co, everyone is focusing on low power and mobile space.

Sooooooooo, every year new models come out that are slight improvements when it comes to raw powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, but they always hype up the 'battery savings' 'increased low power performance'.... etc....
Consumers are into that stuff nowadays.

Every GPU war thread, fans will tout Nvidia's power efficiency and TDP.
 
Lots of 780/780ti on sale here lately around 400€. Making space for the new cards. Very undecided on this. My 680 is still pretty good despite the 2GB ram and recently bought a PS4...
 
These scores are nice, but i wish they spent some time making cards for mobile that don't melt as you use them. I wish I didn't need a laptop.
 
Sad thing is, just like intel and co, everyone is focusing on low power and mobile space.

Sooooooooo, every year new models come out that are slight improvements when it comes to raw powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, but they always hype up the 'battery savings' 'increased low power performance'.... etc....

That's because Nvidia, AMD, and Intel are kind of hitting the limit in terms of raw power. They are hitting the point where all they can do is really reduce the amount of power required for a certain level of acceptable performance, and shrink the die to make it more affordable. At this point the only way they can go with CPU's is to up the core counts and hope software becomes more heavily threaded.

In the case of GPU's they are shrinking them and making them more cost effective so they can then up the number of SMX/Compute Units/Whatever you call it and end up with more raw power. If you remember Fermi it ran a bit hot and used a lot of energy because it was made on the wrong process node. Once they get designs to a certain point they will just expand outward, but nobody wants a card that requires 600W to run.
 
Going to be a nice upgrade over my gtx580
 
When they talk about 'GPU score' are they talked about the 'Graphics score' 3DMark gives out or the overall score?
 
I bought 2 Titan Blacks a couple of months ago. I feel like I can breath a sigh of relief now. In fact I can buy a 3rd without feeling bad about it now. Now if only I could fight through this 5930/5960 upgrade itch.

From someone who has 3 Titan Blacks: A third will not provide as big of a jump as going from one card to two. If you get a 3rd and aren't at least at 4k or some kind of 4k surround setup, then you're doing it wrong.

But if doing it wrong means you want to get a 3rd just because then I ain't mad at that!
 
Would the 980/970 be a big jump over my GTX 670?

I built this PC back in 2012 with a i5 3570k and wondering if it is time to upgrade my card. I haven't had a reason to upgrade yet at all since I can play nearly everything maxed out. GTA V is coming up and that game was somewhat in my mind when building this PC, would it be time to upgrade or just wait a little longer?

it seems CPU requirements are becoming more intensive too, that might have to go as well.

I guess I should see how GTA V does first.
 
I recently got the GTX 770 SLI, looks like a made a good choice, i should be fine for a few years, until Star Citizen releases

PS: Come at me Witcher 3!
 
Would the 980/970 be a big jump over my GTX 670?

I built this PC back in 2012 with a i5 3570k and wondering if it is time to upgrade my card. I haven't had a reason to upgrade yet at all since I can play nearly everything maxed out. GTA V is coming up and that game was somewhat in my mind when building this PC, would it be time to upgrade or just wait a little longer?

it seems CPU requirements are becoming more intensive too, that might have to go as well.

I guess I should see how GTA V does first.

980 will be a pretty big performance boost over your 670. Depending on the game it will be around ~100% better (if we go by benchmarks of 780Ti and then add about 10% more to that).

Your CPU will be more than fine for a couple of years if you overclock it.

Wait, so there won't be a 880/870 line?

No, these are the cards that would've been called that. But that changed.
 
the performance difference isn't that huge :/

did nvidia skip the 800 series like just to make people think that it is a huge upgrade over the 700 series?
 
I forgot to overclock my GPU but looking at the various 780ti's show up on the chart, I grabbed evga precision x, dragged the slider to +100mhz (after testing +64) and it works awesome. Temperatures are nice and cool still (I have the pre-oc'd (sc) version with acx fans though).

I played some watch dogs and had gpu-z running, max core was 1249mhz (that goes over +100 by few mhz...boost clock?). Nice and smooth though.

1250/1750mhz right? let me run that test they did, oh shit I don't have that program, next steam sale.. --oh wait it's on the free version too, awesome, going to test it after it downloads.

My GPU score is 13089:

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(max fan speed 55%).
 
I'm actually trying to figure out how far I can upgrade my GPU, I recently bought an Alienware X51 R2 that comes with a GeForce GTX 645 (oem). I've been trying to find how far I could upgrade as I think the computer power supply is fairly weak (330 watts or something).
 
No, that won't be for another 2 years at least. New architecture is every two years. Next year will be refreshed Maxwell.

Pretty much everyone follows 'Tick-Tock'-like models nowadays.

I think pascal will come out later than 2017, and a 22nm Nvidia/AMD GPU next year looks like it won't happen at all.

i thought it was going to be next year. too bad.

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well, i could wait for another year. it's not like i'm gonna miss anything and i will be able to play those that i missed out on anyway.

besides, that's supposedly where we'll see the leap and by that time intel would've come out with a better cpu and ddr4 would have lowered in prices at least.
 
I hope there is a significant advance in GPUs when the Oculus Rift CV releases, because that's when I'm upgrading, right now this doesn't seem to cut it, smaller process, stacked DRAM and that stuff.

Such a low power consumption is amazing though, and a reason I'd go NVIDIA over AMD easily.
 
Does the 3770k make a huge difference in firestrike scores? I have a higher clocked 780 and a 4.6ghz 3570k but could never reach 10k. Highest I got was something like 9600
 
Yeah, plans change. Previous NV roadmap:


Current NV roadmap:


You'll notice that UVM for Maxwell was ditched and Pascal's been added to make up for Volta being pushed back to god-knows-when.

Still find it hilarious (or sad depending how you look at it) that Maxwell's marquee feature is DX12.
 
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