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[TheSpoiler]

I respect that, but man, this is just sad to read...

PC gaming have been around for more than 30 years, there are a lot of great PC exclusive videogames and PC gaming still offers different experiences and exclusive options than consoles can not deliver (MODs, KB+M control, backwards compatibility, multimonitor support, emulators, free games, etc.).

What I mean is... you are missing great experiences. I'm so sorry for you.

Maybe he already knows about those experiences and it just doesn't suit him. It's simple - sometimes, people don't like thing that you don't like, but that's okay, because you can still like thing without having to justify and worry that others don't like thing.

I feel more sorry for you than him. At least that dude enjoys what he does instead of running to the defense of his favorite item.

 

[Radec]

Driver updates, or the game bugging out for some reason because of your hardware or driver installed

I have a gaming pc and that shit still turns me off in buying games on it. Most of the time i end up buying multiplat games on a console where you can just put the disc and start playing without worries of fucking up.

The games that I bought on my pc so far: warcraft 3, diablo 3+Ros, titanfall, portal/portal 2


Also I like to sell games when I'm done with it.

 

[Majukun]

-can't afford it ATM
-there are some genres that are not represented as well on PC as they are on console.

 

[Sentenza]

can't tell if you're joking or if this is a reverse projection or what....
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/

So? There is a sub-reddit with a stupid name? Shocking news.

And I don't count the times when I had to fix everything after a Windows Update, a driver update or something I didn't know about comes altering my gaming experience in a bad way.

Yeah, I don't count it either.
Mostly because I can't remember a single case in the last decade or so where it actually happened.
Then again I remember when few months back I suggested that *maybe* you had some bias against PC gaming -given some of your dodgy arguments- and you were ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED by it, so let me appreciate the irony in seeing this post.

 

[sunnz]

I do play on the PC but one of the reasons why I wouldn't, if I didn't play on PC currently, would be the general community, like the whole PC MASTER RACE.

Yes the console has its fair share of idiots but those pc elitists are the worst, cause they paid so much for their pc parts they seem entitled to insult others...
Yes not all are like this and the community for some of the smaller PC games are quite good, as well as the modding community but for games that are considered popular, like LOL, CS GO and so on are a shitfest.

Most console users don't use mic which is why it isn't as noticeable to me.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

can't tell if you're joking or if this is a reverse projection or what....
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/

That subreddit is mostly satire. Obviously there are people who take it a bit more seriously than that but it's like using pro-console youtube comments as a source for console elitism.

 

[AdventureRacing]

can't tell if you're joking or if this is a reverse projection or what....
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/

I thought we were talking about playing games online not some stupid troll sub reddit. Most of that is just some trolls having fun and a thread on reddit has nothing to do with people actually playing games anyway.

First, PC community is the worst. It's a pain to play any online game on PC.

There are legitimate reasons not to play games on a PC but this has got to be one of the worst excuses. If anything the online communities are one of the better things about playing PC games.

 

[OmegaTreeFish]

I have owned a gaming PC since my early teens. Love them. They are awesome.

I bought a gaming laptop at the end of last year because we don't really have space for a gaming tower anywhere now we have a kid. I enjoyed that but would still play more on my vita for comfort reasons.

I then got a ps4. With that on the main TV and remote play to vita I haven't played on my PC in months.

Yes I can plug my laptop into the TV but it's something I can't be arsed to do.

Yes I can control steam with a controller with big picture mode but its pretty buggy. Click to load game, mouse controller menu pops up ugh.

Love using mouse and kb for fps games. Problem is I now heve severe wrist pain when using a traditional mouse so I hate using one.

You may say PC games crashing or needing fixes to work is rare these days but it varies wildly from set up to set up. I had plenty of games the had issues and needed fixes.

I know any game I buy on ps4 will have the performance the internet tells me it will have.

Awesome new recording features.

Friend, trophies and party chat systems are better / simpler on PS4.

Remote play is godly to me.

With all that said,PC gaming us something people should totally do if they have room to set it up properly, can happily use a mouse for gaming, can afford the initial set up and like to tinker with setting and stuff. I just don't have that anymore and console simplicity wins.

Part of me will miss playing PC exclusives but I really don't want to use a traditional mouse ever again. And digital prices on consoles suck but I'll deal with it because I have to. Luckily I play less games than I used to and PS plus provides me with a backlog if smaller games when I finish playing a bigger game.

Basically its a convenience thing. Its not the same convenience as 10 years ago but its still there.

 

[Kai Ozu]

Love the PC, but after playing hours of DS2 pvp, I just can't deal with the people that mod the hell out of that game.

 

[LilJoka]

I do play on the PC but one of the reasons why I wouldn't, if I didn't play on PC currently, would be the general community, like the whole PC MASTER RACE.

Yes the console has its fair share of idiots but those pc elitists are the worst, cause they paid so much for their pc parts they seem entitled to insult others...
Yes not all are like this and the community for some of the smaller PC games are quite good, as well as the modding community but for games that are considered popular, like LOL, CS GO and so on are a shitfest.

Most console users don't use mic which is why it isn't as noticeable to me.

I've never encountered PC master race crap online in games though, reason being they are all stuck on the forums preaching lol.
May depend on the games you play though as well I guess.

 

[FuKuy]

Maybe he already knows about those experiences and it just doesn't suit him. It's simple - sometimes, people don't like thing that you don't like, but that's okay, because you can still like thing without having to justify and worry that others don't like thing.

I feel more sorry for you than him. At least that dude enjoys what he does instead of running to the defense of his favorite item.

I'm not defending anything in particular. I just wanted to say that if you love videogames is sad to not care about PC games, because you are missing a huge important piece of the industry.

I do enjoy all consoles and PC too. For me both are important and deliver fun. I couldn't stop playing PC games the same way I couldn't stop playing console games.

 

[Maitiú]

Too much anxiety with PC games, knowing that if I spend more money on hardware, I can make the game run better. That's fine to an extent, but it feels like the race is never-ending on the PC side. It's never-ending with consoles either, but a 5-6-year-cycle of investment without any anxiety of hassling with the machine itself is best for me.

 

[Krustentier7]

cuz i don't liek updaeting dreivers

Seriously though, I recognize the advantages a PC has and I think everybody is entitled to play on their preferred platform. But personally, it's just not for me. Building a PC might be comparatively easier than ever before, but it's still not as straightforward as walking into a store, saying "That one!" and simply plugging it in (as it is for consoles). You can apply this thought process to fiddling with settings and configuring the UI/controllers, too - PC gaming may be easier to get into than it has been in the past, but again, consoles are still more convenient for someone like me. I don't really care about graphics as long as the game's playable - and beyond that, I just can't see the advantages for me personally.

Again, that's not to say that you can't enjoy something that I'm personally not into. Everybody should respect each other's preferences and have fun with their platform of choice.

 

[LilJoka]

Too much anxiety with PC games, knowing that if I spend more money on hardware, I can make the game run better. That's fine to an extent, but it feels like the race is never-ending on the PC side. It's never-ending with consoles either, but a 5-6-year-cycle of investment without any anxiety of hassling with the machine itself is best for me.

You rather have no option than some option? That baffles me. There isn't a competitive advantage so I don't see a need to upgrade.

 

[GhostTrick]

I did, and it's the best videogame purchase I ever made in my whole life.

 

[neurosisxeno]

Yes not all are like this and the community for some of the smaller PC games are quite good, as well as the modding community but for games that are considered popular, like LOL, CS GO and so on are a shitfest.

I have had very few bad experiences in CS:GO and DotA 2--not sure what it is that makes people who play LoL act so horrible. You're completely ignoring the amazing communities that exist for games like World of Warcraft, Diablo 3, Hearthstone, Minecraft, and all the tight-nit communities for niche titles.

Most console users don't use mic which is why it isn't as noticeable to me.

Most don't, but the ones that do make it a point to broadcast everything in their house while screaming at you all the time. They definitely go for "quality over quantity" when it comes to mic abuse in the Console community.

 

[FuKuy]

Looks like some people around here still think that PC gaming is this:

clunky, uncomfortable and complicated


While PC gaming nowadays have improved a lot, and is more like this:

 

[Sendou]

If we're talking about bad communities it seems to me it varies from game to game. It's not really all that platform dependant.

 

[TheSpoiler]

I'm not defending anything in particular. I just wanted to say that if you love videogames is sad to not care about PC games, because you are missing a huge important piece of the industry.

I do enjoy all consoles and PC too. For me both are important and deliver fun. I couldn't stop playing PC games the same way I couldn't stop playing console games.

You could say the same about anything. Don't like fighting games? Missing out on a huge piece of the industry. Nintendo? Same thing.

We often forget that people have different taste. That dude has his reasons, and if he's enjoying what he's enjoying right now, who's to say he's missing out at all?

If we're talking about bad communities it seems to me it varies from game to game. It's not really all that platform dependant.

This is true. I've had a great time in TF2, but I've also had shitty people in various rounds. The D3 community hasn't been too rough, but that varies (just like anything) on where you discuss it and who you play with.

 

[Dictator93]

can't tell if you're joking or if this is a reverse projection or what....
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/

Are those people in games yelling "Heil PC, Consoles ausrotten!" or something?

That is just a silly reddit page with silly people saying silly things. It does not represent the in game experience at all. Why would people be talking about how awesome their platform is over mics when playing games`?

 

[Seanspeed]

Mostly because they don't exist. When you play multiplayer games on PC you don't cross people bragging about "master race" for several reasons; the most obvious one is that everyone else is on PC too and it would be pointless, the second is no one actually cares.

And I'm almost 100% certain that most people who complain about the 'horrible online PC community' don't actually play online on PC, so have no idea what they're talking about.

The online console community is not anything close to some bastion of reasonable, mature gamers, so its really idiotic to name this as any reason.

Its just people generalizing an entire population of people based on a few bad examples they may have heard about. And I'd bet that a lot of people see PC as a 'rival' of sorts, so are definitely looking to find things against PC gaming and PC gamers.

In the end, its just platform war mentality.

 

[Joseph Merrick]

Looks like some people around here still think that PC gaming is this:

clunky, uncomfortable and complicated

apart from the pepsi that is a fucking beautiful photo

 

[SmokedMeat]

also y'all PC people are always posting about problems and inability to play things right and tinkering with it and I think that sucks. It's one thing to need to set up a game, it's another when many important games seem to force random setups throughout.]

I think the final nail in the coffin of my desire to build a PC was (aside from reading a myriad of various hardware issues), was where one user had a mystery problem where something wasn't working and they had to seperately remove components, and place them in a different PC one by one to troubleshoot. Fuck that shit.

PC's are a pain in the ass period. It's not uncommon for things to just suddenly decide not to work. I've got to hand it to some PC gamers, because reading through the threads even on GAF, where people have hardware issues, they have more patience than I would.

Anyways, while PC gamers constantly try and push their platform on everyone (not saying you OP), they always feel the need to dispell a bunch of "myths" or fears people have about the platform. Well, it works the other way around to. As a console gamer, we're not all paying $60 for new game releases. Just like with anything else, there are deals to be had if you just look. It's not as expensive as it's made out to be if you know how to shop around.

 

[Maitiú]

You rather have no option than some option? That baffles me. There isn't a competitive advantage so I don't see a need to upgrade.

You've never heard of the anxiety of choice? The more options available, the more to think about and analyze, trying to make the best decision. Sometimes, having a lot of choices sucks, especially if you're ignorant. I don't play games for online competitive multiplayer, I'd be upgrading to get the most fluid, optimized performance for the sake of emersion in whatever world I'm exploring.

 

[vato_loco]

For me, it's mostly the cost issue.

See, where I come from, the premium experience the PC offers is simply impossible to achieve without incurring some serious debt. A Playstation 4 costs around AR$6500, whereas a somewhat good gaming PC would not be lower than AR$15000, without even adding the monitor(s).

The other reason I play on consoles are the exclusives. Uncharted, Killzone, Gran Turismo, Disgaea, Bravely Default, The Legend of Zelda, Persona. There are many franchises that will never be seen on PC (except when emulating, and that's not a fair comparison to make), and that's not even counting the one-shots like The Last of Us, Gravity Rush or Driveclub. Those games are a huge reason to get a console.

 

[oti]

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This doesn't make sense.

So for ~ the same cost as the console, you get a PC with comparable power + "$100 worth of games off Steam sales" and still would buy a console if the games were there faster?

...Despite the fact you just showed you kinda "saved money" in not paying for a console + 1 game, you paid for a "console" + many games?

Yeah, it does sound weird. Let me put it like this: If there was an Uncharted 4 or some other exclusive game I'd definitely wanted to play, I would've gotten a new console already. This wasn't the case and looking at the release schedule it won't be for quite some time. So it took the money I "saved" and put it into a PC + games. (Still doesn't make too much sense but you know.)

 

[Drama Zed Nod]

I basically buy all the consoles and make a choice for each game on what will benefit me the most.

The main factor is usually performance. If it runs better on X then i get it for X. This usually means PC wins.

Some games i want to play for an eternity and i'm more likely to put those crazy hours in if i can lounge on my sofa. In those cases i would choose the PS4 or XB1.

Sometimes there are more bespoke concerns. A good example is The Evil Within. I think that game is going to scare the shit out of me. I want to experience having the shit scared out of me on a 55" inch screen and 5.1 sound. The game may look a lot better on my gaming rig but i don't think the "experience" will be.

On the flip side, if i could ONLY have one platform, i would go with PC as it's the most versatile. There are so many more barriers to your gaming fix with PC though.

I was about 80% of the way through my Metro 2033 Redux playthrough and the Devs released a patch which rendered the game totally inoperable for me. It simply doesn't launch now. That sorta thing happens a lot less on console due to the quality control console manufacturers put in place for updates.

 

[iboshow]

I have an awesome PC but would rather play games on my PS4 because of trophies. Only play Football Manager on my PC.

 

[Occam]

I use a PC for working. I use game systems for playing games.

There are many reasons why I don't play games on PC. The most important ones:
Compatibility and convenience: I want to pop in a game and play it. I don't want to have to think about and spend money on upgrading my CPU & GPU or OS, or tinker with settings and drivers to make new games play as well as possible or go through the hassle of finding ways to make old games run.
Game ownership: In a time of serial numbers and activation codes you don't own most physical games on PC. For all intends and purposes, I own my physical console games. I can transfer ownership of them (any license or EULA-BS invented to take away my rights and circumvent the first sale doctrine really has no meaning).
Energy consumption: A high end PC uses a crazy amount of power, which a) isn't free, and b) isn't available in unlimited quantity on this little planet of ours.
Console Exclusives: The majority of the games I enjoy never officially come to PC

 

[Arc]

My PC used to get the most attention for gaming.

Now it's all consoles since I quit LoL and all of my friends play console. I'd also rather just play on my couch.

And I don't care how easy it is to hook up my computer to a tv. I don't want to move it back and forth from my desk, that's just ridiculous.

 

[redlemon]

I prefer gaming on handhelds.

 

[Sendou]

I prefer gaming on handhelds.

Speaking of that I can't wait until we can finally have a real "SteamBoy". I'm thinking we're not too far away.

 

[Sentenza]

And I'm almost 100% certain that most people who complain about the 'horrible online PC community' don't actually play online on PC, so have no idea what they're talking about.

The online console community is not anything close to some bastion of reasonable, mature gamers, so its really idiotic to name this as any reason.

Its just people generalizing an entire population of people based on a few bad examples they may have heard about. And I'd bet that a lot of people see PC as a 'rival' of sorts, so are definitely looking to find things against PC gaming and PC gamers.

In the end, its just platform war mentality.

That's exactly what I think as well.

I think the final nail in the coffin of my desire to build a PC was...

...was that you never actually wanted one.
You went wandering from thread to thread for months claiming you were tentatively interested in building a PC and at the same time you actively avoided and shut down any good suggestion people gave to you, stating proudly that you didn't care about anything PC had to offer to you.

Which is fine. Personally I would think you are missing out a big time, but that's just your problem, not mine.
Just don't pretend you matured your decision from some position of experience, rather than from one of (factual) ignorance and from a prejudicial stance you never made any effort to hide.

 

[WillyFive]

I think the final nail in the coffin of my desire to build a PC was (aside from reading a myriad of various hardware issues), was where one user had a mystery problem where something wasn't working and they had to seperately remove components, and place them in a different PC one by one to troubleshoot. Fuck that shit.

PC's are a pain in the ass period. It's not uncommon for things to just suddenly decide not to work. I've got to hand it to some PC gamers, because reading through the threads even on GAF, where people have hardware issues, they have more patience than I would.

Anyways, while PC gamers constantly try and push their platform on everyone (not saying you OP), they always feel the need to dispell a bunch of "myths" or fears people have about the platform. Well, it works the other way around to. As a console gamer, we're not all paying $60 for new game releases. Just like with anything else, there are deals to be had if you just look. It's not as expensive as it's made out to be if you know how to shop around.

On the other end of that spectrum, you also have the guy that has to take apart his PS3 to get his disc out, or having to send his 360 for repairs for the 3rd time because it red ringed, or having to call Nintendo to let him use his games on a different system. There are plenty of horror stories everywhere, it's not good to be scared by them just because of what happened to some guy once or twice.

As for the prices, I think Sony is doing some good competition with Steam lately with PS+ and flash sales; but that's the only place I've seen get even close to Steam and other PC digital game stores. Not to mention a lot of the games there are simply better on PC (obviously not counting the few Sony exclusives offered from time to time).

 

[Nzyme32]

I don't think any opinion in this topic can really be wrong since it is all pretty much subjective. That said

I'd much rather use OS X than god-awful Windows

I've always classed OSX as a PC. Not really sure why other don't. You can play PC games on it and quite well for the most part. I enjoyed playing on macs recently.

I'd hate to play online with "PC Master Race" kids. This is probably the biggest, as I find most vocal proponents for PC gaming to be insufferable.

Now this is hilarious to me, because a key motivator for moving away from console gaming was my experience with online with the 360.

In every game, I found myself being stuck with the most obnoxious & churlish of people from kids to full blown adults. The experience was absolutely awful consistently. The only way to negate this slightly was to play in the morning (GMT) which was a slightly better experience but made finding games a slower experience.

While I'm certain that the experience can be similar on PC platforms, for the majority of the time this hasn't been the case for me consistently for decades. Being able to pick and choose servers and find favourites among them has also been a great way to find great communities. In fact thanks to this, there have been countless game types i have been lead to that simply wouldnt function on other platforms, personal favourite being "trouble in terrorist town". While I also hate "PC master race" stuff, the only place I hear it is hear on GAF or YouTube comments. 10/10 times its a console vs PC debate. Our experiences are complete polar opposites.

I'd hate to sit at a computer desk/chair and use a kb/m to game. I'd similarly hate to have to lug my PC to my TV to cast the image there.

I'm sure you have heard of the countless solutions to this so I won't bore you with a list debate. Personally steam in home streaming has been stunning on my medicore laptop to TV so I can only imagine most systems are far superior. The streaming can handle everything from any controller as in home streaming works it all out for you. You can even play civ with a gamepad as a mouse, which the game doesn't even support, and its actually pretty good if your in a casual mood. Point is for those inclined, this is easily solved with no hassle at all.

I used to play games on PC back in the Monkey Island days and again in the Half Life, Grim Fandango days but at this point there's no reason to. All those types of games will come to consoles, and I can still go buy Civ Alpha Centurai edition for my Mac when that comes out.

This seems a bit pointless as a debate. Console only games go to PC often and PC games often go to consoles too. This has been true and continues to increase as both are increasing in popularity. However the sheer number of games, particularly the older ones rarely make such moves whether due rights restrictions etc. In particular this holds true to many classic games without a massive push from multiple parties - see grim fandango.

Also again, playing alpha centauri on a Mac... I think that's PC gaming in my opinion, if you really want to catagorise everything

 

[Joseph Merrick]

Speaking of that I can't wait until we can finally have a real "SteamBoy". I'm thinking we're not too far away.

check out nvidia shield. it is exactly that

 

[AdventureRacing]

And I'm almost 100% certain that most people who complain about the 'horrible online PC community' don't actually play online on PC, so have no idea what they're talking about.

The online console community is not anything close to some bastion of reasonable, mature gamers, so its really idiotic to name this as any reason.

Its just people generalizing an entire population of people based on a few bad examples they may have heard about. And I'd bet that a lot of people see PC as a 'rival' of sorts, so are definitely looking to find things against PC gaming and PC gamers.

In the end, its just platform war mentality.

The whole PC master race thing is overblown, every time a thread like this comes up you have people complaining about the incessant PC master race. Yet how often do you read anything on a forum like this regarding PC gaming or the supposed superiority of it? These threads are few and far between otherwise this is essentially a console only forum. Outside of a few notorious posters you basically don't see it.

On the other hand look at all the console wars bullshit. Look at how people talk about smartphone gaming, the 3DS, wii or wii U. Hell look at the shit that has went down with the xbone. If you want to find people looking down on or insulting other peoples choices the PC community isn't where you'll find it.

Anyways, while PC gamers constantly try and push their platform on everyone (not saying you OP)

If this is so constant i'm sure you can show us some recent threads where this was actually the case.

 

[LilJoka]

You've never heard of the anxiety of choice? The more options available, the more to think about and analyze, trying to make the best decision. Sometimes, having a lot of choices sucks, especially if you're ignorant. I don't play games for online competitive multiplayer, I'd be upgrading to get the most fluid, optimized performance for the sake of emersion in whatever world I'm exploring.

Yeah it's more at the start though, soon you get over it and just make small changes every year or 2. You also realise that upgrading for each new game is just a waste of money. And you'll also realise turning a setting or 2 down can make literally no perceptible difference yet get you a nice 60fps.

If you really only play games for the image then I kinda feel sorry for you, lots of games have crap graphics but are fun (rust). After a certain point the immersion factor created by turning settings up diminishes quickly. Sometimes the social factor is the most fun too.

 

[Atraveller]

First, PC community is the worst. It's a pain to play any online game on PC.

Then, I'm not secure enough about buying a gaming PC full price when I don't have a clue if my PC will be good enough for playing my games at good settings (aka no stutters no lethal framedrops at monitor native res) for 6 or 7 years. In fact, I do know that it won't. I was a fairly big PC gamer in my teen years and I remember having to deal with upgrading a little too often in order to avoid frame rate bottlenecks (you know, when you have the exact same framedrops at the same places at every settings available and when you begin, in vain, to alter config with wordpad...).

And I don't count the times when I had to fix everything after a Windows Update, a driver update or something I didn't know about comes altering my gaming experience in a bad way.

I don't know if this is a sarcastic post or not.

 

[Carl]

Can't afford one, don't have space for one, don't have any real need for one

 

[Sendou]

check out nvidia shield. it is exactly that

I mean something that can work independently and without lag. To my best knowledge Shield only plays Android games like that.

 

[tumm]

I travel across the country a lot between uni (Wales), my girlfriends (Portsmouth), and my parents (Cambridge), so I have a gaming laptop (Ideapad Y500) to be more portable. I don't mind playing games on low so that's okay, but I'm hoping to settle down somewhere pretty soon after I finish uni (a year left) and get a gaming PC once I can afford it, especially since I've noticed slight input lag/framerate lag even on low settings on a couple (but not many) of the more recently released/still in beta games.

 

[Imouto]

First, PC community is the worst. It's a pain to play any online game on PC.

I hate the PC community, but it's irrelevant to why would you choose to play games on the PC or not. I can only play games like Anno series or Civilization on the PC, so I just had to build a PC for both working and gaming stuffs. Just avoid any online games and I'm good to go for another 5 years.

But PC games can never replace console and handheld games to me.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

I probably would if i had been educated on how they work, consoles are so much easier to use.

 

[Atraveller]

Why on Earth would anyone brag about being PC master race in multiplayer games? Everyone is playing on PCs together!

 

[Deleted member 125677]

I'd hate to play online with "PC Master Race" kids. This is probably the biggest, as I find most vocal proponents for PC gaming to be insufferable.

play with me, I'm a really nice guy

 

[Widge]

I love my PC gaming but:

I like to game on a couch/I don’t like kb+m

Most PC games nowadays have excellent controller support and scalable UIs so you can play PC games on a couch. And with Steam Big Picture mode (Buggy though it may be) you can even control Steam with a gamepad. There’s also the option of Steam In-Home streaming which allows you to stream games from your gaming PC to any other machine in the house which works wonders in my experience.

Is a big issue. And it ties in with consoles are more convenient.

I would LOVE to play Planetside 2 in my front room. I just can't. There is no way I can get a comfortable setup with a KB&M on a sofa. If even I could, then there is the UI issue. There is no way I will be able to read it from across the room. A majority of the games are designed for the user to have their nose pressed up against a monitor. Tiny UI's are also celebrated as "not dumbed down", which is a terrible mindset to sink into.

Even though it is my primary device, a console is a better option for a majority. No need to piss about, no need to keep a mouse and keyboard handy just in case a splash screen pops up or you need to navigate windows.

Some controller friendly games are also terrible. Left4Dead 2 is an atrocious play with a pad, clearly geared for the mouse using majority.

These things PC users like myself can accept, for a grand majority, they cannot, especially from something that is asking significantly more money for the pleasure of experiencing. They are well within their rights on that front.

 

[Arc]

I hate the PC community, but it's irrelevant to why would you choose to play games on the PC or not. I can only play games like Anno series or Civilization on the PC, so I just had to build a PC for both working and gaming stuffs. Just avoid any online games and I'm good to go for another 5 years.

But PC games can never replace console and handheld games to me.

Its not irrelevant. For me it seriously hurt my enjoyment of MOBAs ans let me to quit. Granted MOBAs are notorious for shitty solo q communities but still.

 

[Piers]

I'm not desperate for better graphic, do not care for mods and I can get Steam sales equivalent prices from trading in unused games. Too many people within the PC community feel like they have to prove something over their specs, too, which puts me off. Like an upperclass golf club.

 

[Widge]

Looks like some people around here still think that PC gaming is this:

While PC gaming nowadays have improved a lot, and is more like this:

And completely desk bound.

A lovely setup, but I could never have that in my house. Where I would want to set a lovely little gaming corner up I have my kids instead! So I broke it down, moved everything to the front room in a mini-ITX box and live with the occasional clunkiness that PC gaming brings with it.