Why haven't you bought a PC yet?

Money isn't a significant issue for me these days, and I still prefer to play on consoles.

People always talk about how much cheaper PC gaming is due to the prices on Steam but when you get older time becomes a much rarer commodity than money. I honestly have no time (or desire) to play the massive number of cheap games on Steam. Heck, most younger people never play all the games they purchase on Steam. If you're purchasing hundreds of games you never play, are you really saving money?

Also, PS+ frequently provides high quality games for free.

I prefer to sit on a couch with a controller than at a desk with a keyboard and mouse. Even if I did use a controller on my PC most games, particularly the competitive multiplayer games, would be nearly impossible to play with a controller and maintain a competitive level of play.

I work on computers all day and don't want to bother with hardware upgrades, drivers and other issues that hamper PC gaming. I want things to "just work", which is what consoles provide.

Another reason I prefer consoles is JRPGs, which are woefully under-represented on PC.

The only thing about PC gaming that I miss, other than a few PC-exclusive title such as the Civilization series, is the excellent competitive community. The console gaming community really doesn't have a decent skill-based competitive community.

All of this is reasonable, although I'd point out that JRPGs have mostly vacated consoles, too, in favor of handhelds and mobile, and that mobile "just works" even better than consoles do.

However, mobile doesn't have as many games with gravitas like consoles do. In fact, every game that has gravitas is exclusive to consoles. If someone has a counterexample, prove it.
 
I have both, but could never go PC-exclusive.

No God of War/Uncharted/Destiny/etc.
And as someone who games with their wife, she has no interest as she views computers as for work.
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on ever getting back into PC gaming because of this.
 
You're joking with the i5 2500k right? They were amazing...for last gen. A 750 Ti is also a low end bargain card. It's by no means mid-range. The 770 is definitely a mid-range card.

Your opinions are definitely outside the norm.

I feel like it's important to remind everyone for a second that video games are just a hobby. Something that you should do to relax, have fun and that you are not required to take seriously if you don't want to. It's completely fine to not be playing games in the most cutting edge way possible. It's 100% acceptable to act based on feelings that probably don't stand up to rational scrutiny. People fucking hate it when someone else comes up to them and tells them that they're enjoying their hobby wrong because they're not using the best stuff.

By the same token, however, if you've ever found yourself being in an argument where you espoused the superiority of your platform over another on primarily technical grounds, you might want to seriously consider PCs as a future investment, even if you've got some kind of mental roadblock preventing you from picking it up. We regularly have threads where people shit all over the Xbox One because it's playing the same games as PS4, but in 900p instead of 1080p. Mockery of the Wii, WiiU, DS and 3DS on account of their weak hardware wasn't some rare thing. People went on about how the Xbox was superior to the PS2, or how the 360 was superior to the PS3 because of (often very marginal) superiority in multiplatform titles. When Digital Foundry threads happen we get people bordering on mental breakdowns if the power of the PS4 isn't being properly leveraged over the Xbox One. An extreme amount of pleasure seems to be derived from the technical superiority of one console over another. But of course, consoles in general aren't providing the best technical experience. If you care about that kind of thing, wouldn't it be awesome to get an even better one? To enjoy better image quality, higher framerates etc even in games that don't reach the "ideal" of 1080p60fps on consoles?

It's not an either/or proposition. And of course not everyone can afford everything. But if you've been getting a semi-chub while thinking about the technical aspects of these consoles, or if you've ever been angry at "lazy devs" for not delivering a 1080p60fps experience, it might be good to dedicate some time to self-reflection.


Yep, this deserves to be an OP.
 
You're joking with the i5 2500k right? They were amazing...for last gen. A 750 Ti is also a low end bargain card. It's by no means mid-range. The 770 is definitely a mid-range card.
There are only 2 cards in the 700 series that are more powerful, I don't count that mid-range.
 
This changes very quickly though.

Today it'll cost you an extra $400 to get somehtign clealry superior to consoles.

In 2 years? Not so much.

I know people like you, and what they do is they end up picking up an upgrade or a new PC mid or late in the generation, when consoles, comparitvely, look like ass.

This might be the best case scenario for me actually when it clearly outpaces the current systems.
 
The real reason is people are used to what they are used to and will use any reason they can come up with to not change or deal with change. That's human nature. They need a massive reason hitting them hard in the face to consider it otherwise it's not worth the hassle. Honestly most people are fine with what consoles have to offer and would rather not deal with something they're not used to on some chance that PC gaming might be better for them.

I, on the other hand, will see a decent rig as a much better investment than, say, a PS4+XO any day of the week. Largely because I have had to use toasters for PC's all my life for various reasons until my late teens.
 
I will get a decent gaming pc next year. My only concerns are shitty ports that aren't optimized from companies like Capcom and Ubisoft, for example. I will keep my ps4 because Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 can't be missed
 
I was following a build on a SC2 forum I think it was team liquids it was something like $1360 total. I will find my receipt and show you the specs because I love how ridiculous all of you guys get with this crap but then you ask for your system and find out oh wait yeah to run that stuff for a long time at high you need to spend about a grand my bad.

Hilarious
If you spent $1400 and it only took two years before you had to drop settings to medium and play at 30fps, you did something very very wrong somewhere. I'm not trying to rub it in here or make you feel bad, I'm just trying to point out to everyone else that your case is not representative of what other people will experience like you're trying to make it seem. It is exactly this sort of misinformation that leads to people having false conceptions about PC gaming and leads to PC gamers having to have discussions to try and correct these misconceptions.
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on every getting back into PC gaming because of this.

As someone who has PC in the living room, connected to 55" plasma and 24" LCD, I just have to laugh at posts like this.
"daaaark caveeee"
 
I was following a build on a SC2 forum I think it was team liquids it was something like $1360 total. I will find my receipt and show you the specs because I love how ridiculous all of you guys get with this crap but then you ask for your system and find out oh wait yeah to run that stuff for a long time at high you need to spend about a grand my bad.

Hilarious

There is a definite disconnect between what you are saying and reality.
 
You're joking with the i5 2500k right? They were amazing...for last gen. A 750 Ti is also a low end bargain card. It's by no means mid-range. The 770 is definitely a mid-range card.

i5 2500k is almost 3x times more powerful than CPUs in current gen consoles and its overclocking like crazy. Its totally fine for this generation.

And no, 770 is not mid-range. Mid means in between and 770 is second best performing card from latest Nvidia series, if we count full numbers and not 'Ti' overclocks.
730 - entry
740-750 - low end
750Ti-760 - mid range
770 - Enthusiast
780 - High End
 
All of this is reasonable, although I'd point out that JRPGs have mostly vacated consoles, too, in favor of handhelds and mobile, and that mobile "just works" even better than consoles do.

However, mobile doesn't have as many games with gravitas like consoles do. In fact, every game that has gravitas is exclusive to consoles. If someone has a counterexample, prove it.

I hear mobile is the next-big-thing for JRPGs but I have yet to find a mobile JRPG that appeals to me. The 3DS is admittedly the king of JRPGs at the moment, which I own as well, but it's true I prefer console JRPGs due to the big screen and higher fidelity.

PS3 has plenty of JRPGs, and although the Xbox One looks to be completely devoid of JRPGs, the X360 does have a few decent JRPGs. .

PS4 has Natural Doctrine, FFXV, FF Type-0, Disgaea 5 and Persona 5 all coming in the next year and is looking to be a strong JRPG console if the trend continues.

Gravitas is such a hard word to define, I think it really comes down to personal taste. I agree with you that console games have a certain charm (i.e. "gravitas") that PC games lack, but I admit it's my personal taste and many people would probably disagree.
 
As someone who has PC in the living room, connected to 55" plasma and 24" LCD, I just have to laugh at posts like this.
"daaaark caveeee"

Yeah, just this weekend me and my mates were playing Mario Kart Wii with Xbox 360 pads at 4x native resolution with AA and AF. Then we played some Worms Revolution 4 player. All this in my living room on a 42" Plasma.
 
There is a definite disconnect between what you are saying and reality.

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I will find the receipts.

If you spent $1400 and it only took two years before you had to drop settings to medium and play at 30fps, you did something very very wrong somewhere. I'm not trying to rub it in here or make you feel bad, I'm just trying to point out to everyone else that your case is not representative of what other people will experience like you're trying to make it seem. It is exactly this sort of misinformation that leads to people having false conceptions about PC gaming and leads to PC gamers having to have discussions to try and correct these misconceptions.

Okay I just looked up Crysis 3 and I could have sworn it came out within 2 years of SC2 but it was 3.
I could max SC2 completely. Then when Crysis 2 came out I was still putting up decent numbers but 3 decimated my rig.
So 3 years about which I guess isn't too bad but when your going from big release to big release it feels like your having to drastically reduce each time something new hits. Maybe my perception is skewed on it.
 
As someone who has PC in the living room, connected to 55" plasma and 24" LCD, I just have to laugh at posts like this.
"daaaark caveeee"

Wasn't that a joke post? It's probably easier to assume any argument involving the location of PC vs console a joke post nowadays. Especially one so long-winded and multi-layered.
 
The biggest argument, one which cannot be refuted in the slightest is that those who enjoy playing online games with their friends need to own a console. Sure, some people probably have social circles that revolve around pc gaming, most do not. I have a grand total of 3 friends that play pc games with me. The rest are begging me to buy a ps4.

Also, if my tastes were still geared towards niche Japanese titles id definetly own at least one console and spend way less time gaming on my pc.
 
This might be the best case scenario for me actually when it clearly outpaces the current systems.

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. Different strokes for different blokes.

Most of my friends last gen switched to PC early, simply becaus eof the games available that weren't on consoles. But a few just preferred the big budget big graphics games.

When they picked up their rigs a few years before this gen hit, they were amazed by the difference of games runnign at 1440p, 60 FPS and with way better graphics/lighting/particles, etc.

Waiting for that "magic" experience till later in the cycle (when it's also cheaper) sounds like a way to go.

I need my some PC exclusives though, which is why I'm always going to be a PC gamer first.
 
Wasn't that a joke post? It's probably easier to assume any argument involving the location of PC vs console a joke post nowadays. Especially one so long-winded and multi-layered.

Minsc is just trying to cover up that he rarely interacts with the opposite sex.
 
The biggest argument, one which cannot be refuted in the slightest is that those who enjoy playing online games with their friends need to own a console. Sure, some people probably have social circles that revolve around pc gaming, most do not. I have a grand total of 3 friends that play pc games with me. The rest are begging me to buy a ps4.

Also, if my tastes were still geared towards niche Japanese titles id definetly own at least one console and spend way less time gaming on my pc.

This can certainly be true, but the notion that "most do not" have PC gaming friends is probably wrong. PC Gaming is considerably more popular than any specific console. It's probably true amongst American 20 somethings who self identify as "hardcore", however, which comprise a large portion of the GAF population.

Just to emphasize: I agree with your central point. If the bulk of your friends happen to be on Xbox with a few friends who play on 3DS and a few on PC, then you'll maximize your friend connectivity by buying an Xbox One.
 
This is YOUR bias coming through. PC gaming is cheaper if you wait for sales.

Well guess what? Console gaming is ALSO cheaper if you wait for sales.

.

Nope, pc games are on average 20 euros cheaper than last gen games and 30 euros cheaper than next gen tax ps4 games

Then the gap widens as time goes on and prices drop further faster on pc.
The reason why prices drop faster on pc is because it is an open platform with many store fronts which all compete with eachother.
It's not just the xbox store or psn store monopoly to buy your shit on, there's gog , greenmangaming, steam as well as hundreds of smaller ones.

They all compete and undercut eachother , even on launch day (on top of the average msrp for a pc game being 20 euros lower)


If I could get high at 60 then well that would make me bite.
This is going to be a test though. I really want a gaming PC I just have to see if its worth it.
If the 770 puts up subpar numbers for W3 Ill know that ship has sailed for me.

That is quite a bit of money and second how long will that last you?
My $1400 system lasted me just shy of 2 years. Now its medium settings @ 30 if I want to spare the frame rate. That just isn't worth it to me.
First you have a 2 year old pc that you spent 1400 bucks on that runs modern games at 30 fps on medium, then you don't have a pc but really want one but you don't know if it's worth it
Ok I'm putting you on ignore now, if you're going to make shit up and lie don't contradict yourself on the same page. Fucking trolls always shitting up these threads.
I try to engage people in discussion, this is not that.
 
I think my favorite part of this thread is the attempt to lump all PC gamers in one homogenous group of elitist bogeymen. As if the communities who play MOBAs or FPSes or grand strategy games or roguelikes or any of the others are all one and the same.
 
My PC could probably play games comfortably but I cannot stand using Windows and am a Linux purist. If it's not ported or playable in WINE I'm not interested in it.

Besides, I enjoy retro and Nintendo games more than a lot of modern games so I don't see the point in being a PC gamer.
 
If you spent $1400 and it only took two years before you had to drop settings to medium and play at 30fps, you did something very very wrong somewhere. I'm not trying to rub it in here or make you feel bad, I'm just trying to point out to everyone else that your case is not representative of what other people will experience like you're trying to make it seem. It is exactly this sort of misinformation that leads to people having false conceptions about PC gaming and leads to PC gamers having to have discussions to try and correct these misconceptions.

Exactly... I've spent $1200 between 2008 and now .. My core 2 quad + 5850 runs everything I throw at it admirably
 
I built a gaming pc a few years ago to play starcraft but in the end I just preferred the console experience and it's just been relegated to an overpriced tax and email machine with the odd rounds of starcraft and counterstrike and the odd exclusicr. I've debated hooking it up to my TV but since I need it as a computer for other things I've never actually bothered with it. It also already needs to be upgraded if I want to hit that 1080p/60fps benchmark in most games...

I greatly prefer the whole console experience. Thats where a lot of my freinds, I love achievements, it's easy to get in and out of games and apps and the games I play are much better suited towards and half a much more vibrant community on consoles like Madden, fifa, titanfall, CoD. I found the whole PC in TV user experience to be clunky and a pain to use and in the end these things trumps any graphical advantage I get on PC and I have no intention of returning down that road again.

In terms of $$$ unless you play a lot of games I found PC gaming to be much more expensive..
 
I feel like it's important to remind everyone for a second that video games are just a hobby. Something that you should do to relax, have fun and that you are not required to take seriously if you don't want to. It's completely fine to not be playing games in the most cutting edge way possible. It's 100% acceptable to act based on feelings that probably don't stand up to rational scrutiny. People fucking hate it when someone else comes up to them and tells them that they're enjoying their hobby wrong because they're not using the best stuff.

By the same token, however, if you've ever found yourself being in an argument where you espoused the superiority of your platform over another on primarily technical grounds, you might want to seriously consider PCs as a future investment, even if you've got some kind of mental roadblock preventing you from picking it up. We regularly have threads where people shit all over the Xbox One because it's playing the same games as PS4, but in 900p instead of 1080p. Mockery of the Wii, WiiU, DS and 3DS on account of their weak hardware wasn't some rare thing. People went on about how the Xbox was superior to the PS2, or how the 360 was superior to the PS3 because of (often very marginal) superiority in multiplatform titles. When Digital Foundry threads happen we get people bordering on mental breakdowns if the power of the PS4 isn't being properly leveraged over the Xbox One. An extreme amount of pleasure seems to be derived from the technical superiority of one console over another. But of course, consoles in general aren't providing the best technical experience. If you care about that kind of thing, wouldn't it be awesome to get an even better one? To enjoy better image quality, higher framerates etc even in games that don't reach the "ideal" of 1080p60fps on consoles?

It's not an either/or proposition. And of course not everyone can afford everything. But if you've been getting a semi-chub while thinking about the technical aspects of these consoles, or if you've ever been angry at "lazy devs" for not delivering a 1080p60fps experience, it might be good to dedicate some time to self-reflection.

Boom.

I think this is where a ton of ill feelings comes from on this board.
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on ever getting back into PC gaming because of this.

My 65 year old father plays starcraft 2 in his living room using a small form factor pc. He also has been known to stream to his laptop with steam if he wants that anti social thing. This dark cave argument is dead imo.
 
Okay I just looked up Crysis 3 and I could have sworn it came out within 2 years of SC2 but it was 3.
I could max SC2 completely. Then when Crysis 2 came out I was still putting up decent numbers but 3 decimated my rig.
So 3 years about
I'd still be very useful to know what your specs were(just your CPU and GPU is good enough to know).

Also worth remembering that Crysis 3 at Medium settings looks as good as many other games on High/Ultra settings, even by today's standards.

And that using Crysis 3 as your baseline of what your PC can do in terms of settings and framerate is quite unrepresentative of what other games will be like. Its not fair to say that all you can do is 'medium settings and 30fps' with your PC because every game is different. You made it sound like that was the best you could achieve or something, when you were really just naming your worst-case example.

This is another reason to not put too much worry about 'max settings', too. Chasing that will ultimately lead to disappointment or frequent and costly upgrades. Games are constantly finding ways to push PC's, but it doesn't necessarily mean you need to have them to achieve pleasing graphics levels.
 
Sure PC gaming might be more expensive because you have to upgrade, but I've also never gone through a console generation without it breaking when out of warranty. That combined with free multiplayer offsets my graphics card upgrade every few years.
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on ever getting back into PC gaming because of this.

Stop using Anti-Social. Being anti-social means you are a sociopath.

It is Asocial.
 
Yeah, just this weekend me and my mates were playing Mario Kart Wii with Xbox 360 pads at 4x native resolution with AA and AF. Then we played some Worms Revolution 4 player. All this in my living room on a 42" Plasma.
Except that isn't anything close to what he said. He was just saying he can play his PC on his TV and monitor.

But hey you know, there is Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed that runs quite nicely on PC and actually compliments Mario Kart with all the benefits plus some you mentioned.
 
Wasn't that a joke post? It's probably easier to assume any argument involving the location of PC vs console a joke post nowadays. Especially one so long-winded and multi-layered.

Goddammit you might be right, in which case it completely flew over my head.
But I am still not completely convinced :)
I wish I was.
 
I have no room for a propper desk with a gaming PC. Had the choice of putting either a gaming PC or a movie wall into my room and chose the latter.
That said, I am moving into a new flat end of this year and one of the first things I want to put in there is a gaming rig. Can probably say my RL good bye then, but fuck it. YOLO. Can't wait to replay some of the older strategy games. Couldn't believe that those are acutally thrown after you at GOG and Steam. And the best of it is that I finally have enough money to maintain a gaming rig (which wasn't the case a decade ago when I last had a gaming PC).
 
Windows 8.1 - no thanks!!!

Seriously, seriously I hate the PC - viruses, games not optimised, random crashing, outdated drivers, outdated graphics, outdated processors, need additional controller etc.

Bring back the Amiga now that was a gaming machine.
 
if you have the cash and varied taste I don't understand how you skip out on platforms

let alone PC goddamn
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on ever getting back into PC gaming because of this.

This... this is got to be some of the stupidest words ever hosted on GAF.

Congrats, I guess?
 
Windows 8.1 - no thanks!!!

Seriously, seriously I hate the PC - viruses, games not optimised, random crashing, outdated drivers, outdated graphics, outdated processors, need additional controller etc.

Bring back the Amiga now that was a gaming machine.

Then you must REALLY hate the new consoles! They were outdated 2 years ago!
 
I have a gaming budget every year. This year I got a wii u, 3DS and a 40" LED. Generally pretty happy with my purchases.

But I really want to start on some sim racing which requires a beefy PC so I can do 60fps+ and I want to get a steering wheel (driving force GT) and a 144hz monitor. That's what my research on gaf told me to get.

I'm a bit disappointed with the PS4... Even tho it's pretty powerful I think I could easily beat it next year with my PC (yeah I know, price difference and all) so I wish maybe I didn't get it so fast. Still it will be worth it for Bloodborne.

So yeah I hear you, PC is the way to go.
 
I don't have much time to game anymore. I like the convenience of turning on my console and getting to my game very quickly. I play rts on my PC but if I have the option in going with one of my consoles cause my PC is old. Its just easier. You get highly optimized games on a unified platform. Plus I think Sony and MS first party titles are higher quality than most 3rd party titles.
 
Except that isn't anything close to what he said. He was just saying he can play his PC on his TV and monitor.

But hey you know, there is Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed that runs quite nicely on PC and actually compliments Mario Kart with all the benefits plus some you mentioned.

If you are talking about me in that first paragraph, then yea, I have PC connected to both TV and LCD, but it's in living room, so all the social gaming is normally possible as with consoles. I played Blur couple days ago with friends on the plasma, PC version..

I also have PS3 strictly for some of the exclusives, and will get PS4 once there are at least 5 games I want (so far, announced are only two, TLOU and Bloodborne). But PS4 will always be a "necessary evil" for me, since most of my gaming will be on PC for many reasons.

My PC could probably play games comfortably but I cannot stand using Windows and am a Linux purist. If it's not ported or playable in WINE I'm not interested in it.

Besides, I enjoy retro and Nintendo games more than a lot of modern games so I don't see the point in being a PC gamer.

I don't want to play Windows advocate, but Win 7 and 8 are really mostly fine, and can even be made to be completely invisible with Steam Big Picture.
But I am definitely hoping SteamOS will be good when released, and will gain some decent ground next year. It would be great to get rid of MS completely, even if it is very very long run kind of affair.
About Nintendo and retro games, PC has some pretty cool emulation capabilities... :)
 
I consider PC gaming to be too anti-social. The last time I was alone in a room specifically for gaming I was 14, and I also wasn't interacting with the opposite sex very often.

Now I am almost 30 and the only time I have opportunities to game are on a console and even that still takes me away from the people in my life. At least I am still in my living room, and I don't have to have a headset on and I still can speak or be spoken too. Otherwise I would just be in a "gaming room" playing a PC, which translates to a dark cave, sitting inches from a flickering screen, complete removed from society.

I don't plan on ever getting back into PC gaming because of this.
It is confirmed then. Once you enter the dark PC cave you will never feel the touch of a woman.
 
Everything is a hassle on a gaming PC. I vastly prefer console gaming. Also, I like the games that the console platform holders put out.

I do have a gaming PC, but i feel that I don't like the gaming experience on it so I.don't think I will upgrade it any time in the near future.
 
I've been exclusively PC gaming for almost a year now and feel the benefits far outweigh the cons. not having to compromise on visuals and performance while paying significantly less for games for a game is incredible. Being able to chose between mouse and keyboard or controller, between whatever graphics settings I want, being able to buy digital games at various retailers, modding my games to add stuff not possible anywhere else, being able to buy a game that would cost $60 on a console for $25 on PC, at launch, is a great feeling.

PC gaming to me is about choice, some of you chose to buy consoles and play games on them, that's cool, game on, I went from playing only on consoles to only on PC in the matter of a couple of year, but when you look past all the preconceived notions of PC gaming and look at what it offers as far as value and choice, it really is the best platform to play games on.
 
Is funny how some users complain about optimisation on PC... dear friends, let me say this, a console game running at 30fps is not optimise at all.
 
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