Gipsy Danger
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I dunno. Lethal League is like the realest game.
Why haven't you bought a PC yet?
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I dunno. Lethal League is like the realest game.
I have a gaming PC and it's my primary source of gaming.
That being said, the "solution" of hooking my PC to my TV for comfy couch gaming just flat out does not work on several games I play due to poor or no UI scaling options. Games like FF XIV, Civ V, and the Old Republic are just a few that come to mind immediately that have games where I just flat out cannot read the text when sitting on my couch, unless I change my resolution below 1080p.
This may or may not be an issue for you depending on the types of games you play, but Big Picture mode on Steam doesn't always solve all your comfy couch problems.
That being said, the "solution" of hooking my PC to my TV for comfy couch gaming just flat out does not work on several games I play due to poor or no UI scaling options. Games like FF XIV, Civ V, and the Old Republic are just a few that come to mind immediately that have games where I just flat out cannot read the text when sitting on my couch, unless I change my resolution below 1080p.
This may or may not be an issue for you depending on the types of games you play, but Big Picture mode on Steam doesn't always solve all your comfy couch problems.
Same boat here. Love the boot up music of a console. There's nothing like it.
Gipsy Danger
Member
To be fair. Two of those three games flat out don't exist on consoles. So you can't get a version with a UI more suitable for TVs anyway.
When my PC boots, Jarvis tells me my systems are online. There's nothing like it.
Hmmmm...
:: Walks over to PC. :::
:
icks up controller and hits menu button:: :: Steam big screen pops up::
:: Selects game and hits "A"::
:: Game starts::
Ok. Got it.
::Walks over to Xbone::
::Grabs gamepad and presses menu button::
::Waits about 10 times longer for Xbone to be responsive than PC to be responsive::
:: Has to navigate through two submenus to find game::
:
ushes "A" to start game::::Ooops, game disc not in Xbone, must find disc and insert it::
:: Wiats about 10 times a slong for game to boot up than on PC::
YEP, WAY different. You're right.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
I opened this thread wanting the first reply to be "I'm waiting for PC 2" but you've failed me.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
FF14 has pretty visible and helpful UI scaling, as does Civ V (although FF14s is way better and not automatic). But it is a problem in a ton of games I agree.
Mr.Marston
Member
Because I prefer Consoles.
I do couch play on my PC.
Age of Empires II HD is basically unplayable for long periods of time without eyestrain.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
::Walks over to Xbone::
::Grabs gamepad and presses menu button::
::Waits about 10 times longer for Xbone to be responsive than PC to be responsive::
:: Has to navigate through two submenus to find game::
:
::Ooops, game disc not in Xbone, must find disc and insert it::
:: Wiats about 10 times a slong for game to boot up than on PC::
YEP, WAY different. You're right.
Well, I'm a PC gamer. I don't agree with this though.
I own all my xb1 games digitally. Just pin your game, or say "Xbox go to [game]"
I always want to own a PC and at least one console. Without one or the other I feel like I'm missing out.
That said the times I've favoured consoles is when required specs of most new multiformats catch up with my system and I'm wary of upgrades as I always end up researching the damn thing for weeks and not deciding if such part is suitable for my system and so on. Its nice knowing a game I buy for console should work and if it doesn't then reviews(press or user) should pick up on it and warn me off the game. I feel I have no such guarantee on PC as most reviewers have more powerful systems then mine and its more pot luck. And yes I have had way more technical issues on PC then I ever have with consoles.
If no console had any exclusives I wanted then I'd probably stay PC only but I'm never going to like the hardware side of it. I just like that its the platform that has Steam, GOG and the best sales.
That said the times I've favoured consoles is when required specs of most new multiformats catch up with my system and I'm wary of upgrades as I always end up researching the damn thing for weeks and not deciding if such part is suitable for my system and so on. Its nice knowing a game I buy for console should work and if it doesn't then reviews(press or user) should pick up on it and warn me off the game. I feel I have no such guarantee on PC as most reviewers have more powerful systems then mine and its more pot luck. And yes I have had way more technical issues on PC then I ever have with consoles.
If no console had any exclusives I wanted then I'd probably stay PC only but I'm never going to like the hardware side of it. I just like that its the platform that has Steam, GOG and the best sales.
It is very hard to argue with that. I want that capability with Steam.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
I just said I agreed on the whole but pointed out a couple that did have scaling. (FF14's lets you scale individual HUD elements as well as the text in dialog boxes) But I do agree with him, and with you. UIs that don't scale are evil.
Gumbie
Member
Hey now what do you think you're doing using facts, hyperbole only in here mister!
This.
I probably would never build a beefy PC unless I got serious about 3D modeling, rendering, film editing etc.
It is VERY easy to argue with that, considering that 1/2 the time it doesn't work. Either because you didn't give the command the right way, it didn't hear you correctly, it misinterpreted what you said, or you didn't say the title of the game as Microsoft wants you to say it.
It is great when it works. I just wished it worked more often. Even if the game WAS digital and I used voice command,s I'd still ahve to wait longer for the Xbone to boot up and to load the game than ona PC.
My main point, however, was that there is no actual difference between the two (other than those brought about by the fact that my PC is a hell of a lot faster than my Xbone), unlike what the other two posters attempted to assert.
A modern console is a PC wearing a costume.
So you think this thread is full of hyperbole?
Well ok.
I've got to try Kinect a few times and it seemed to work ok. But I've got a very neutral East Coast accent, which might help?
I have a pc fairly well equipped, but I find myself using it less and less every day. I just can't game on pc anymore, I don't know why. I'm about to buy a new house, and I'm toying with the idea of just selling this stuff and stick with a macbook and my consoles. I dunno, maybe plugging it to the tv and treat it like a console might be the key.
Fruitster
Member
I bought a new gaming PC last week. I'd been toying with the idea for a couple of years, but never did as I assumed PCs were fiddly to get games working correctly, was far more expensive than console gaming (hardware) and also it was DRM hell. Wrong on all counts so far. Games are cheaper, look better, play better and so far games are easy to configure. The hardware is pricier, but well worth what you get back IMO. My only regret is not going for PC gaming a couple of years back instead of waiting.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
"Those grapes are probably sour anyway"
Gumbie
Member
Yeah I'd say there's quite a bit in here on both sides of the argument.
I'm an engineer working all day all week long in front of three monitors, but I must admit I still don't quite understand how this logic works in practice. I mean, I think I understand what you are saying, and I've heard some other people mention the same, but I've never understood why it's like that. For me it's much simpler; When I work I work and when I'm home relaxing, playing a game (or sit down in front of my computer with my guitar and start make music) I'm having a good zen time. I don't know.. But good for you that you found your way to relax at home I guess.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I do as well, and my experience with Kinect has been nothing but awesome.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I'm Scottish and while Kinect 2.0 has been far better than I originally expected. It's still nowhere near where it needs to be for me.
Nowhere Man
Member
I have a capable PC but barely use it for gaming. The vast majority of the games I like are simply not on it. This includes all but two of my GotYs for the last decade. I do play a little on PC, anything that's DD only I'd rather have there, especially if available DRM free.
Sentenza
Member
Do you even realize, to any degree, that we were arguing about the physical act to sit in front of a PC or a console and play, and in NO WAY it was supposed to be a discussion about how they perform or how do you make your software purchases?
Which, by the way, is an argument that I wouldn't even dream to see used in favor of consoles. One of the biggest reasons you don't see an used market for PC games, beside being mostly digital, is that they are so cheap in the first place that as used you would sell them literally for pennies, so even when that is an option (i.e. GreenManGaming) for the most part people just don't bother with it.
If people want to live in a distorted reality it's not my problem.There's always that select group of people so sure of themselves, yet in my experience time and time again are always the ones at the defense and are usually the people at the ready waiting to jump to some rash conclusions based on such small indifference's and opinions, right or wrong . I mean once you start taking personal jabs at someone for being wrong about a video game platform, maybe its you that needs to take a step back and "self reflect" or maybe it's you that's a tad bit "delusional".
Where did this/is this happening? :/
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
PC has a much larger library than PS360. PC has games for decades and they are playable , which make the PC huge. So no, the PC did not get shat on.
I'd rather not point the finger.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Even though that is exactly what you are doing with the use of inverted commas and the words within them.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Why Steam? Windows 7 has voice commands out of the box.
How else am I suppose to get my point across, I mean, I'm not one to make those clams in the first place, but if you're willing to judge someone on a personal level because of an opinion on a video game platform, right or wrong, than yes, I'm going to have to play the hypocrite.
Because I cant start up a game just by saying "Windows, go to Skyrim".
The kind of costume that inhibits range of movement and athletic potential because, well, it's clumsy.
I would like to promote the PC platform for two more reasons people may not be aware of. One is backwards compatibility. If a game is released on PC, no matter how old, you can likely get it working with very little issue. Unlike consoles where games are locked to one platform, the PC is an infinitely scaleable platform with support going back decades, with no need to worry about exclusives to old hardware.
The second is long-term controller support. For example, the 360 wired pad and my arcade joystick both are XInput, meaning regardless of whatever gen a game is, the inputs will work for that game. Years from now when more games are released on PC I will not have to purchase a new arcade stick for upcoming fighting games. This also applies to old games. I own quite a few adapters for old controllers to play ports.
It's quite interesting that a PC is the very definition of expensive investment in the beginning that pays off with very cheap money-saving options later when it comes to all aspects of gaming. I am almost certain I have recouped my investment over the past ~5 years.
The second is long-term controller support. For example, the 360 wired pad and my arcade joystick both are XInput, meaning regardless of whatever gen a game is, the inputs will work for that game. Years from now when more games are released on PC I will not have to purchase a new arcade stick for upcoming fighting games. This also applies to old games. I own quite a few adapters for old controllers to play ports.
It's quite interesting that a PC is the very definition of expensive investment in the beginning that pays off with very cheap money-saving options later when it comes to all aspects of gaming. I am almost certain I have recouped my investment over the past ~5 years.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Hmmmm...
:: Walks over to PC. :::
:
:: Steam big screen pops up::
:: Selects game and hits "A"::
:: Game starts::
Ok. Got it.
::Walks over to Xbone::
::Grabs gamepad and presses menu button::
::Waits about 10 times longer for Xbone to be responsive than PC to be responsive::
:: Has to navigate through two submenus to find game::
:
::Ooops, game disc not in Xbone, must find disc and insert it::
:: Wiats about 10 times a slong for game to boot up than on PC::
YEP, WAY different. You're right.
I like how you present a super fast PC scenario, and a super slow console scenario.
- Walk into room "Xbox On"
- Walk past comfy counch and sit on recliner
- Pick up and controller, and turn it on.
- Select game
- Play
That's how it generally goes for me, unless I have to swap out a disc.
Zelenogorsk
Banned
1. I can't afford one right now.
2. They don't make PCs that can play Bloodborne, Persona 5, or Bayonetta 2.
3. I'm content with the lower resolution and framerate of consoles.
2. They don't make PCs that can play Bloodborne, Persona 5, or Bayonetta 2.
3. I'm content with the lower resolution and framerate of consoles.
Sentenza
Member
Then let's just "pretend you are not saying anything useful and pertinent and just throwing jabs for the sake of it.
Nice try SteviePSo what you're saying is that you prefer to pay more for lesslol
I have to agree with PC gaf on pretty much everything stated thus far, granted for me personally as long as the console front holds the better exclusives that I like, I will always choose the console/handhelds first and foremost.
I mean come on, what would a console vs PC thread be without Dela posting a gif from the order
I mean come on, what would a console vs PC thread be without Dela posting a gif from the order
explains why every pro CS player plays at max res
oh wait they don't. they play at low res.
Shocking news: good players will beat bad players no matter the resolution, how leet the bad players kb/m is, or any other stupid made p reason
I have to agree wit PC gaf on pretty much every stated thus far, granted for me personally as long as the console front holds the better exclusives that I like, I will always choose the console/handhelds first and foremost.
I mean come on, what would a console vs PC thread be without Dela posting a gif from the order
Oh no... Please don't start screen shot and list wars. And at the very least post pictures of a game if you do
yes, because accusing someone of being delusional in the first place gives you any more creditability than myself.
I have a 'gaming laptop' but it's starting to get a bit long in the tooth (bought in 2010, ran Witcher 2 fine but probably won't be able to handle Witcher 3)... still prefer playing on consoles - 'comfy couch' gaming and the fact that my main gaming interests (Japanese games) are mostly console (or handheld) exclusive. I do like my emulators (MAME) and indies tho
Also when I'm at a computer I get distracted, like I'll want to go on the internet, or play with my DJ equipment, or dick around with photoshop... gaming on a console with zero distractions helps me keep focus.
Also when I'm at a computer I get distracted, like I'll want to go on the internet, or play with my DJ equipment, or dick around with photoshop... gaming on a console with zero distractions helps me keep focus.
This seems a bit contradictory. If there is no hassle, why would you need technical know-how (beyond what you would need to set up a console)? What someone considers a hassle is really very much dependent on the person. I can easily see how for some people just buying a PC is a hassle; it's a major investment, and if you don't spend the time to read up on current tech, you can waste quite some money. With consoles, it's easier to predict what you'll get and how long it'll last you. I generally enjoy reading up on PC components, so for me this was part of the fun when building my PC; for other people, it's a hassle.
Whether I consider something a hassle even depends on what mood I'm in at the moment, some days I have a higher 'hassle-threshold' than others. That doesn't mean that my 'basic technical know-how' changes on a day-to-day basis.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe you shouldn't make assumptions about other peoples' know-how based on what they do or do not enjoy doing (or don't / do consider a hassle) that just comes across as arrogant.
Crash Station
Member
Got one, but I'm never going to spend a bunch getting a real pimped out rig as long as the majority of games I want to play are on consoles/handhelds. 97% of what I play is from Japan, so that's a pretty big factor.
I want one super bad. But that initial investment is tough for me at this juncture.
When I do finally get a new gaming PC I'll be going full out, so I'll be easily spending over $1500 dollars. And I'm truly starting from scratch. No monitor, no windows, no keyboard, etc. Will be closer to $2000 maybe, haven't added it all up recently.
Will be trying to get one this winter, though.
When I do finally get a new gaming PC I'll be going full out, so I'll be easily spending over $1500 dollars. And I'm truly starting from scratch. No monitor, no windows, no keyboard, etc. Will be closer to $2000 maybe, haven't added it all up recently.
Will be trying to get one this winter, though.
So you should probably brush up on the smart phone gaming thread.