Why haven't you bought a PC yet?
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Oh another troll who didn't bother reading the OP.
if you update drivers often you're either running SLI/crossfire or are asking for trouble. My drivers are from 2012 and work just fine in every game. I used to believe the line they'd feed you about performance improvements but it's rarely if ever a big deal and not worth the hassle or risk. Just find something stable and stick with that shit until you run into a game that absolutely will not run properly without an upgrade.
I do like the console experience, and to me it's always been very different from PC where I'm always tweaking settings for performance. I'm not really the type to decry all consoles and tell people to set up a steam PC in their living room, although I do run an HDMI cable to my TV if I wanna play a game on Dolphin or something. But lately the cost of console games is getting ridiculous, for someone who usually likes to have both consoles and a PC. Sub fees and $70+tax retail games in Canada are hard to swallow when you've grown used to Steam sales and Greenman preorders.
I do like the console experience, and to me it's always been very different from PC where I'm always tweaking settings for performance. I'm not really the type to decry all consoles and tell people to set up a steam PC in their living room, although I do run an HDMI cable to my TV if I wanna play a game on Dolphin or something. But lately the cost of console games is getting ridiculous, for someone who usually likes to have both consoles and a PC. Sub fees and $70+tax retail games in Canada are hard to swallow when you've grown used to Steam sales and Greenman preorders.
Captain Chaos
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Human Years...
IOS 1-4
Nintendo 5-12
Xbox Playstation 13-24
PC 25-end
IOS 1-4
Nintendo 5-12
Xbox Playstation 13-24
PC 25-end
Edit: Nvm, some sites giving me different answers.
Look up some benches i'd say, either way without MSAA you'll have a great framerate.
Dictator93
Member
Turn off the MSAA (it is a god awful implementation anyway) and you should be cruising at quite riduclous frames.
DarkHeartedKill
Member
The one problem I have with Dark souls 2 on PC is someone thought it would be a good idea to tie durability to frames. Our weapons break 2x faster it's rather annoying. But I love PC gaming a lot.
Messages are in a chat format making it easier to communicate via text.
You can use Skype and call a bunch of friends.
Amazing deals throughout the year.
Cheaper in the long run.
Lasts much longer than consoles.
No subscription to play online.
More customization options.
More FPS, better resolution, and more players in a lobby for some games
Messages are in a chat format making it easier to communicate via text.
You can use Skype and call a bunch of friends.
Amazing deals throughout the year.
Cheaper in the long run.
Lasts much longer than consoles.
No subscription to play online.
More customization options.
More FPS, better resolution, and more players in a lobby for some games
Iva Demilcol
Member
I've bought a lot of PCs... don't use them for games though =P
But there is know way of ever knowing if this will happen until it actually gets announced. Whereas we both know depending on your hardware configuration there will always be a configuration that will work better with star citizen right off the get go, its kind of how PC gaming works when it come to these kinds of high caliber PC exclusives
Not a troll and I did read the OP
Anything more than free is too expensive. I already have a $2000 laptop
I simply don't have room for one even if I wanted one. My guitar and drawing table take up my only free space
I need my laptop for work. Ergo a PC is redundant
I simply prefer MacOS and there aren't many games for it
PC gaming is a pain in the ass. At a minimum it's mostly digital, furthermore requires instillation, and many games require you to connect to their servers to work.
Articulated enough?
fuzzyreactor
Banned
I actually have a gaming pc, albeit a little dated but:
1) I don't care for the pc communities of most of the time
2) I have a office that my pc is in and don't want to change my office into a gaming room.
3) I hate trying to get performance optimization out of games
4) Majority of my friends play consoles and it's easier to get a game going with them on consoles over pc.
1) I don't care for the pc communities of most of the time
2) I have a office that my pc is in and don't want to change my office into a gaming room.
3) I hate trying to get performance optimization out of games
4) Majority of my friends play consoles and it's easier to get a game going with them on consoles over pc.
I don't understand why these threads always devolve into minor quibbles of "but you have to update drivers" or "I prefer sitting on my couch". They read like poorly conceived excuses to validate ignoring the platform, especially when most of these statements are completely outdated or invalid.
The advantages of PC gaming are enormous. It's by far the cheapest option despite having a higher initial cost. You have access to the most powerful hardware available, can opt-in for a budget-build, or everything in-between. You can play games at a much higher fidelity while having complete control of your own experience. Given how much interest there currently is over resolution and frame rates on consoles, how can the the ability to customize your resolution, graphics settings, and frame rate be so ignored? Additionally, does the prospect of rendering at 1440p, 4K, or 120fps+ not mean anything to you?
As for game library, it far exceeds anything on consoles, and that is being generous and only comparing games released this (new) generation. If we include everything, thanks to backwards compatibility, the comparison is laughable. If you consider yourself a fan of the FPS genre then look no further. By comparison console FPS suffer immensely in design in large part due to the controller. If you're a fan of RPGs then I couldn't imagine a better year for the genre than this one. Divinity: Original Sin is already one of the best examples in years, and you still have Pillars of Eternity, and Wasteland 2 (Sept. 19th) coming this year.
After all is said, given the price, the difference in fidelity and performance, the immense library of great games, and most importantly the ability to customize and have a choice in every aspect of your experience, I find it quite difficult to believe someone would so easily ignore the platform.
The advantages of PC gaming are enormous. It's by far the cheapest option despite having a higher initial cost. You have access to the most powerful hardware available, can opt-in for a budget-build, or everything in-between. You can play games at a much higher fidelity while having complete control of your own experience. Given how much interest there currently is over resolution and frame rates on consoles, how can the the ability to customize your resolution, graphics settings, and frame rate be so ignored? Additionally, does the prospect of rendering at 1440p, 4K, or 120fps+ not mean anything to you?
As for game library, it far exceeds anything on consoles, and that is being generous and only comparing games released this (new) generation. If we include everything, thanks to backwards compatibility, the comparison is laughable. If you consider yourself a fan of the FPS genre then look no further. By comparison console FPS suffer immensely in design in large part due to the controller. If you're a fan of RPGs then I couldn't imagine a better year for the genre than this one. Divinity: Original Sin is already one of the best examples in years, and you still have Pillars of Eternity, and Wasteland 2 (Sept. 19th) coming this year.
After all is said, given the price, the difference in fidelity and performance, the immense library of great games, and most importantly the ability to customize and have a choice in every aspect of your experience, I find it quite difficult to believe someone would so easily ignore the platform.
I can assure you there will be a better version of The Order 1886 eventually. I can bet you one billion dollars for that.
Doesn't this bother you? Sub-1080p 30FPS isn't exactly a high standard to begin with. Should be a bunch of room for improvement with PS5/Now.
I've been waiting for some time to actually finally be able to play this game in all its grace.
While i might not have a xbox one or ps4 from what i know most of this is also the case for those two consoles.
35GB's of goodness, i should know (i have the physical 4 dvd's version.)
sorry I'm not the betting type
but in all honesty this doesn't bother me because there really is know way of knowing if it will ever happen until it actually dose, this isn't the case with PC gaming and Star citizen.
Unfortunately, this is increasingly the case, but not entirely. For example, there's nothing like BattleNet on a console.
yep I'm installing it as we speak, I hear the process it quite long
Stallion Free
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I hope you didn't pay more than 5$ since it's been that price or maybe lower on sales for at least a year.
ViolentP
Member
Yet still completely ludicrous.
You can't open a question up for reasons and then 'debunk' peoples opnions and preferences at the same time.
I work with computers, thus I hate computers. Do it long enough and you will too. Consoles are easier and more convenient to deal with. I like the walled garden and managed experience because it demands less of me in return for fun.
I work with computers, thus I hate computers. Do it long enough and you will too. Consoles are easier and more convenient to deal with. I like the walled garden and managed experience because it demands less of me in return for fun.
Yes, but i wanted the CE so i had only myself to blame, still tempted to pick up the steam version (fuck you R* for not letting people use their key on steam.)
True, though i do feel that has more to do with Blizzard's lack of interest in supporting the console version, if they get serious about consoles (and bring more of their future games on there) you can bet your ass they want you to sign up and connect to their walled off garden.
derExperte
Member
The latest Nvidia driver improved Watch_Dogs' performance noticeably on my old-ass GTX660. Maybe you don't need to install every update but I don't understand why someone wouldn't to be honest.
10 bucks at future shop
Dictator93
Member
Jokes on you for buying a 2k laptop. Seriously, what was in that 2k laptop that jusfied that rather than an 800 USD laptop and a 1200 USD PC?
1) It's not. I just said it was more time consuming, and thus could be construed as a negative for a segment of gamers.
2) Again, I didn't make a value judgement one way or the other, just stated that for some consumers a PC represents a larger hassle than a game console.
3) Apparently it is, since you construe any argument that something is more time consuming as immediately being a negative, a claim I never asserted. All I have said is that PC gaming is more complex for the end user than console gaming, which is demonstrably true.
SneakyStephan
Banned
probably a logo of an apple with a bite out of it lolol
I am 30 have a full time job, a wife and 2 kids, to fire up a console for an hour or so when I get the chance to play a game is easy, it works and I can keep it for years without having to upgrade, its also pretty cheap in the long run and aside from the red ring fiasco on 360 it usually does not break or crash.
I am pretty tech savvy, In fact I actually work in video games but in my personal life I really don't have the time or inclination to be messing around trying to get the latest drivers, latest graphics card, more ram, etc,,,
Yes I agree some of the stereotypes are much easier nowadays than before but in all honesty it still requires some level of effort that takes away from my precious bit of time where I actually get to PLAY the game...
I have an Imac that I use for my non gaming personal needs that I was willing to invest more in because It runs the software I use for work and in my personal work better.
Everyone is welcome to their own preference and I certainly understand why people want to game on PC, I also think the OP's points are valid, however it still does take more time, money and tinkering... for me its just easier and better to go with a console.
I am pretty tech savvy, In fact I actually work in video games but in my personal life I really don't have the time or inclination to be messing around trying to get the latest drivers, latest graphics card, more ram, etc,,,
Yes I agree some of the stereotypes are much easier nowadays than before but in all honesty it still requires some level of effort that takes away from my precious bit of time where I actually get to PLAY the game...
I have an Imac that I use for my non gaming personal needs that I was willing to invest more in because It runs the software I use for work and in my personal work better.
Everyone is welcome to their own preference and I certainly understand why people want to game on PC, I also think the OP's points are valid, however it still does take more time, money and tinkering... for me its just easier and better to go with a console.
flyinpiranha
Member
Your first and second link are for 4k and eyefinity setups. Extreme setups that aren't the norm that most likely aren't the norm.
The 3rd was a very HIGH END card when launched and was dual GPU ..
I never said there weren't problems. But there are millions of people who game on the PC and if the amount of trouble people "perceive" was the actual issue, we wouldn't do it.
I don't have to update every release, and if I do, it's pretty automated. Again, it may be MY personal (and others) anecdote but MANY people game on PCs. More people play LoL than own PS4s and XB1s and Wii Us combined, does that mean a majority of those players are having all these issues constantly?
Lordwindowlicker
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I have.
I bought a gaming laptop, and I built my gaming desktop.
I bought a gaming laptop, and I built my gaming desktop.
dose the game use any other kinds of AA or is it best I keep it off, or should I turn AA on via the control panel?
ViolentP
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I think you guys are arguing two valid points. Fact is, there is a certain convenience and accessibility in consoles. Whereas PCs are much more complex. Now, consoles are almost completely locked down where PCs are almost completely open. Simplicity vs. capability. It ultimately comes down to what sort of experience one is looking for.
One of the benefits of console gaming, in my mind, is the consistency of the visuals. Let me explain. With a PS4 game, i can find any video of the game online, whether from the publisher or another gamer, and be 100% confident that is exactly how the game will look on my system. I can't say the same with PC gaming, instead you need to find someone who has a PC with similar specs to you who also has the game and determine if it "runs well" and "looks good".
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I dunno. I just built a new PC a few months back. First time I've ever been able to run everything at the best settings.
I still play my 360, PS3, and my PS4 and my Vita etc.
PC's neat and all, but it's not the end all.
That's the sum of what I was saying, yes.
Apparently this makes me a troll? I'm not sure how the logic on that one works.
It has FXAA as a seperate setting from MSAA IIRC, not sure about forcing AA, think it either doesn't work at all (without the correct flag or in DX11) or gives issues when it does work.
Edit: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=357956 This thread has a flag for the game but it requires the game to run in DX9 and causes issues with the SSAO.
ThePlayerofGames
Banned
Add 'I don't find any of their exclusives interesting'
And 'I abhor buying digital content' and that about covers it.
ViolentP
Member
That's why you can't wear your heart on your sleeve. Especially about something as silly as videogames. Just because one disagrees with you, doesn't mean they are insulting you.
MoogleWizard
Member
Because I don't want a Windows computer, I can't stand Windows. And many of the games I want to play are console exclusive.
terrisus
Member
Because for some people, using a desktop PC isn't a practical thing, and they want to get more use out of their laptop.
ViolentP
Member
PC gaming is not too expensive when compared to console gaming. As the sole entry to the hobby, sure.
2K is an excessive amount of money even for a laptop imo.
He brought valid arguments, and you dismissed them all and called him a troll for it. How the hell is this not an insult. You've already proven that you're not interested in having any sort of intelligent discussion, because you'll refuse to listen to any counterarguments.
SSPssp
Member
This is misleading. Nearly all boxed PC games come with codes that can only be used once and cannot be transferred. The disc just saves you download time. If you have slow internet this can be good. If you don't want to go digital in order to sell or trade your games this is worthless.
They actually called me a troll. Quite literally. It's quite amusing how passionate people get about specific platforms, really. Reminds me of elementary school and SNES vs Genesis.
Wrong person, antibolo.
ViolentP
Member
Wrong person, smart guy.