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[Corpsepyre]

I just had a PC made, and it's the best decision I've made. Wish I could have done it earlier. I love my PS3 and will be buying a PS4 once Uncharted comes out but damn, PC gaming is where it's at. So many options and customisation that it's hard going back to consoles after it.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

I have had a gaming PC for a long time.
At some point I just stopped upgrading it and now I haven't turned it on in years.(I use a Macbook Pro for surfing and work)

I just thought consoles were more convenient and I really like local multiplayer.(Even though this gets rarer and rarer on consoles, too.)
I've never been a huge fan of RTS and I tried MOBAs once and it just isn't for me, I'm also not a fan of mouse/keyboard and while its true that I can use a controller its not really a viable option since its a disadvantage online.
I didn't like to fiddle around with settings and I didn't like the thought that my opponents could be running the game at 4k and 120FPS, giving them an advantage over whatever I got.(I like that on console everybody is on the same level, makes the competition much fairer imo)
And last but not least, I really like Sony exclusives and Halo.

 

[SneakyStephan]

I'm not sure what you mean by "they've been outside my radar" - but the bigger issue isn't that I don't care about PC-centric franchises, it's that PC still lacks many franchises that I play.


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"pc doesn't have the exclusives I like on consoles" is an excuse to buy a console, not an excuse to not buy a PC

Pc gaming has exclusives for all tastes, every genre is covered... and all of them have great games in them.


You don't care about pc centric franchises because you don't know about most of the ones that exist because you have no exposure to them.
Someone who never played zelda is going to have a hard time giving a fuck about the series.
Dirty bomb, natural selection 2, trackmania 2 , strike vector, divinity OS, asetto corsa are some recent games I'm sure you have never played and probably haven't even heard about, yet the people who have played them often consider them some of their favorite games.

How can you be open to new IPs on consoles and at the same time ignore great established and new IPs on pc.
It's silly to discover vanilla icecream, like it then decide that's all you're ever going to try because it's familiar.

I'm agreeing with you while mocking the people who call PC gaming cheaper than console gaming. Hence the "/sarcasm" at the bottom of the post.

PC Gaming is fun and looks great, but it comes at a premium cost.

No it doesn't , it's cheaper. The hardware costs more (if you want better hardware -and you should want better hardware, the console hardware is trash - , else it costs about the same) and is proportionally much better, but the cost for actually playing games on it is much MUCH lower.

 

[Nethaniah]

dear god, forget that shit, I think I'll just stick with FXAA, and you guy's wonder why some people are afraid of PC gaming. lol

But thanks anyways

Hey, if the game's AA solutions (granted it has 2 build in) aren't up to par pc gamers tend to find other ones.

 

[Sentenza]

I'm agreeing with you while mocking the people who call PC gaming cheaper than console gaming. Hence the "/sarcasm" at the bottom of the post.

PC Gaming is fun and looks great, but it comes at a premium cost.

That's quite the poorly misplaced sarcasm, though.

 

[Opiate]

Again, these responses are supposed to be reflective of our tastes and reasons for why we don't play on PC. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

That your tastes would be different if you had a PC. I'm not suggesting you're wrong; you probably think I'm replying you to criticize your position. I'm not. You can like what you like.

Many people, however, think of their tastes as some intrinsic property; that their tastes, as I said, sprung from thin air. I'm suggesting that your tastes are shaped significantly by what you pay attention to and what you play with as you grow up. The fact that you aren't personally interested in many PC-centric franchises isn't surprising, given that you've never really gamed on PC in the first place.

Similarly, I'm not very interested in any iOS game, but that's probably because I don't own any iOS devices and I've really never paid any attention to the iOS gaming scene. Probably, if I did own an iOS device, I would pay attention, and suddenly I'd find there are some good games there that I do like, I just didn't know that I liked them, because I haven't paid attention to them and/or I never attempted to cultivate the taste in them.

 

[tcrunch]

I have a PS3, WiiU and a PC "rig" that I bought from one of those preassembly places where you just pick the parts. I went on a "hardcore pc gamer" friend's recommendation for the PC's specs and it ended up being a piece of garbage that doesn't give the performance I wanted. I'll get a PS4 when Bloodborne comes out but an updated gaming PC is much further down the pipe, mostly due to the cost.

I could never imagine gaming with -only- a PC and missing out on console exclusives.

Gaming PC
+Graphics
+Mods for some games
+Emulation for old games
+Simulation games (still waiting for another wildlife park sim...)

-Expensive to get the best graphics quality according to that "build your own PC" thread (and graphics are the point of getting a gaming PC?)
-"Ready-to-play" rigs, like an Alienware or something, are usually scamming you on one or more parts, but getting the parts individually requires a lot of research- a console comes with one set of parts and you don't have to worry about researching it
-No I don't want to build a PC...I prefer something that I can just plug in and it works
-Can't play on my tv/on the couch without dragging a gigantic desktop pillar over there
-7/10 games are ports, aka I could play them earlier on a console...I don't care about the indie/iPhone beta games
-Bugs are much more prevalent because they're not just caused by the game but by the game interacting with whatever messed-up desktop ecosystem I have that it doesn't like
-PC games with no native controller remapping (this includes Witcher 2 that I just started playing: had to use XPadder and a bunch of ini edits to make use the buttons I want, and it still messes up on some actions and also can't display the correct button prompts for actions because the ini edits changed everything around) or no controller support at all (this is rarer)
-No playing with real-life friends like Mario Kart/etc.
-Would have to buy an extra speaker system if I wanted good sound, I hate headphones and try to use them as little as possible

I definitely think having a top-of-the-line gaming PC as well as the consoles is the best of both worlds, but I also don't have infinite money. PC is definitely worth it if you like Bethesda games since they get legions of mods, and not all of them are about making the female characters naked.

 

[Zaku]

That's quite the poorly misplaced sarcasm, though.

Normally I'd agree, except we then get this:

No it doesn't , it's cheaper.
See we are both posting without backing it up in the post, only I'm right and you are wrong.

A PS4 costs $400 and comes out of the box with a controller, all required wires, an OS, and for a modest fee each year you get 12 free games and even better discounts on Sony's already good digital sales. In addition to the digital sales, you have a variety of physical retailers who sell used or marked down physical copies of new games. The system will last you for the next five years, likely without breaking down and will play a large variety of third party titles and first-party exclusives until the PS5.

Now, you have $400 to build your core system. It must last five years and be able to meet the minimum required specs for games to be released in five years, you must include the cost of wires, keyboard and mouse, controller (if desired), as well as the cost of the OS. Wait, let's be generous; Call it $550 for five years of PS+ bought during a Black Friday deal, and you don't even have to account for the 60 free games a PS+ user would use.

Have fun!

 

[Crash Station]

Pc gaming has exclusives for all tastes, every genre is covered... and all of them have great games in them.

JRPGs.

 

[Thug Waffle]

I have a PS3, WiiU and a PC "rig" that I bought from one of those preassembly places where you just pick the parts. I went on a "hardcore pc gamer" friend's recommendation for the PC's specs and it ended up being a piece of garbage that doesn't give the performance I wanted. I'll get a PS4 when Bloodborne comes out but an updated gaming PC is much further down the pipe, mostly due to the cost.

I could never imagine gaming with -only- a PC and missing out on console exclusives.

Gaming PC
+Graphics
+Mods for some games
+Emulation for old games
+Simulation games (still waiting for another wildlife park sim...)

-Expensive to get the best graphics quality according to that "build your own PC" thread (and graphics are the point of getting a gaming PC?)
-"Ready-to-play" rigs, like an Alienware or something, are usually scamming you on one or more parts, but getting the parts individually requires a lot of research- a console comes with one set of parts and you don't have to worry about researching it
-No I don't want to build a PC...I prefer something that I can just plug in and it works
-Can't play on my tv/on the couch without dragging a gigantic desktop pillar over there
-7/10 games are ports, aka I could play them earlier on a console...I don't care about the indie/iPhone beta games
-Bugs are much more prevalent because they're not just caused by the game but by the game interacting with whatever messed-up desktop ecosystem I have that it doesn't like
-PC games with no native controller remapping (this includes Witcher 2 that I just started playing: had to use XPadder and a bunch of ini edits to make use the buttons I want, and it still messes up on some actions and also can't display the correct button prompts for actions because the ini edits changed everything around) or no controller support at all (this is rarer)
-No playing with real-life friends like Mario Kart/etc.
-Would have to buy an extra speaker system if I wanted good sound, I hate headphones and try to use them as little as possible

I definitely think having a top-of-the-line gaming PC as well as the consoles is the best of both worlds, but I also don't have infinite money. PC is definitely worth it if you like Bethesda games since they get legions of mods, and not all of them are about making the female characters naked.

that sucks, man. i think the best way to approach building a rig is to do it yourself from scratch. they're shockingly easy to assemble and the information you will learn through your research is pretty invaluable if tech is something you like to talk about now and again.

lots of times those pre-assembled rigs will end up giving you less bang for your buck than a rig assembled at home.

 

[EGOMON]

Can I ask what region you're in? Your reasoning is totally fine, by the way, just curious what region it is.

Oman, Middle East
Very few people here game on PC the majority are going with the mobile craze and the rest are on Playstation

 

[rtcn63]

PC hardware is more expensive, especially if you aren't hunting holiday deals and the second hand market for parts. But, games themselves tend to be significantly cheaper, and maybe depreciate in price faster. Steam and GOG sales, various bundle sites, etc. often means good games for cents on the dollar. I'm not saying any savings would necessarily pay for the cost of the PC itself, but it does mitigate the hurt.

I'll always have a gaming PC, mostly because my primary computer-thing continues to be a desktop. It's my entertainment and productivity center, so spending extra on the gaming-related portions doesn't require massive justification. If my current build doesn't die for whatever reason, I expect it to last 5-10 years, with possibly the purchase of more storage and a newer video card by life's end.

 

[SSPssp]

Doesn't even save you download time.

Wolfenstein came with 4 DVDs.
Still had to download over 25 gig of the total 40.

But will keep buying them on disk.
I just want to be able to hold my games in my hands.

That sucks. Skyrim and Dishonored only needed about a 1 gig update for me to play after installing from the disc. I guess newer games are going to be terrible on that end.

 

[Seanspeed]

Totally! And enjoy them! They're not my cup of tea though.

See, this is what I don't buy. I'm not arguing with your other justifications. If you've got enough on your plate as it is on consoles, whatever, that's cool.

But if you enjoy 25-30 franchises on console, I don't think I'm going out on a limb by assuming that they're not all the exact same type of game. You'd have to have insanely particular tastes in games to not find plenty of games you'd enjoy on PC, especially for somebody who says they're not interested in nice graphics, since PC has all sorts of great games without AAA production values. There is no platform that has a larger or more diverse selection of games.

Play what you want to play, that's fine, and I'm not suggesting you should get a PC or anything, but its very hard to shake the feeling that you're not still kind of going out of your way to write off PC games/gaming with unnecessary 'justifications' like this.

 

[Inuhanyou]

There are quite a few reasons on my end. I don't have anything against PC gamers or how they play games, and i acknowledge their platform as superior in many ways compared to console gaming.

But, i'm just not interested in gaming on PC.

I've always been a console owner. The closest i've come is emulators for retro games and mame back in my high school days, and playing the Halo demo for free like 10 years ago.


I have one laptop(cost 200$) that i bought for doing computer stuff and school, and don't really have space in my place for a desktop, i don't like the thought of buying GPU's and CPU's and having to deal with opening shit up to install, and having to upgrade every so often, or tinkering with settings. On the console side, i like just buying the unit and buying the games. If i need a controller i'll buy that.

Right now, i have a PS4 for third party games, and a Wii U for Nintendo games, and i'm pretty much set until the next generation rolls around.

I know i'm probably missing out on some cool PC franchises, but i can't really say its enough to lure me over..i'm pretty ok with what i'm settling with in multiplatform games and console exclusive franchises(japanese games in particular)

Individual game prices? Although i've seen some insane deals from steam, I usually can wait for PSN sales or retail prices drop to get my games. I usually prefer physical disks though anyways.

Mods? Can't really say i'm too interested, although what people come up with is really interesting.

More powerful components? Eh, i thought 360 and PS3 games already looked really good to be honest, and PS4 games now have much better IQ and stable framerates than the previous gen.


I'm not intentionally trying to be dismissive of the inherent pluses of PC gaming when i did this run down, these are things i acknowledge as things that could be advantageous, but just don't care enough about to bother making some sort of wholesale switch to PC gaming.

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

"pc doesn't have the exclusives I like on consoles" is an excuse to buy a console, not an excuse to not buy a PC

Pc gaming has exclusives for all tastes, every genre is covered... and all of them have great games in them.

That's your opinion. I disagree. I'm not sure why you think it's necessary to try to counter an "I like what I like" statement.

You don't care about pc centric franchises because you don't know about most of the ones that exist because you have no exposure to them.

Strawman.

Someone who never played zelda is going to have a hard time giving a fuck about the series.

I don't care about someone who never played Zelda. I'm talking about myself.

Dirty bomb, natural selection 2, trackmania 2 , strike vector, divinity OS, asetto corsa are some recent games I'm sure you have never played and probably haven't even heard about, yet the people who have played them often consider them some of their favorite games.

Another strawman.

How can you be open to new IPs on consoles and at the same time ignore great established and new IPs on pc.
It's silly to discover vanilla icecream, like it then decide that's all you're ever going to try because it's familiar.

My time is limited and my finances are limited and I just don't see the point in playing every video game ever made for the sake of doing so? I'd rather just play the games I like, the genres I like, and the franchises I like, from the devs I trust.

And if we're using an ice cream analogy - I love a certain brand of ice cream (let's call it brand A) because the ingredients they use, and the flavors they sell appeal to me. So if someone asks me, "why don't you buy an ice cream maker because it allows for more freedom and openness" - but you still can't replicate any of the styles of ice cream that brand A sells - why would I invest in an ice cream maker?

 

[Gipsy Danger]

JRPGs.

Ys 1, 2, Origin, Oath in Felghana.
The Last Remnant
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Reccetear
Half Minute Hero 1 and 2
Final Fantasy III, VII and VIII
Agarest: Generations of War Zero
Phantasy Star II, III and IV

It certainly doesn't get everything but the genre is well served on the platform. With more coming still, and a lot of lower-budget ones that don't come out on any other platform.

 

[Vestax]

Recently built a gaming PC, but honestly, I hardly use it. There's a only a couple of games that I consistently play, and they're on the PS4 as well, so I just do the console version. I get to use by big-screen TV and surround sound.

My GF ended up using the PC more than me...she's addicted to WoW. Addicted.

 

[Sentenza]

JRPGs.

Plenty of them too. And their number is only growing over time.
Hell, if we are going to include emulation it has probably more Jrpgs than any other single console and even more than several of them combined.

 

[Nethaniah]

JRPGs.

We have some...

 

[deadcelledo]

I haven't yet, but will be jumping into soon, just need a bit more money, parts are a bit hard to get where I live and shipping is to high.

 

[Crash Station]

Ys 1, 2, Origin, Oath in Felghana.
The Last Remnant
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Reccetear
Half Minute Hero 1 and 2
Final Fantasy III, VII and VIII
Agarest: Generations of War Zero
Phantasy Star II, III and IV

It certainly doesn't get everything but the genre is well served on the platform. With more coming still, and a lot of lower-budget ones that don't come out on any other platform.

I should have said turn-based JRPGs. That narrows that list down a bit and it's still missing many of the genres greats. No Suikoden, no Chrono, no Grandia, no Wild Arms, a good chunk of the Final Fantasy series, no Skies, etc.

But yes, I am happy the library is growing and I'm excited for more Trails when it hits.

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

That your tastes would be different if you had a PC. I'm not suggesting you're wrong; you probably think I'm replying you to criticize your position. I'm not. You can like what you like.

You keep making the same logical fallacy that I never played games that are more common on PC. Please stop.

given that you've never really gamed on PC in the first place.

See above.

Similarly, I'm not very interested in any iOS game, but that's probably because I don't own any iOS devices and I've really never paid any attention to the iOS gaming scene.

It's fine that you're not into iOS games, but this isn't a thread about iOS games, and more specifically, this isn't a thread about why you don't play iOS games. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp here. And more to the point - you know what I'm not going to do? I'm not going to launch into some defensive machinations over why you don't play iOS games and espouse a whole load of hot nonsense and supposition just because we don't like the same styles of games.

 

[rtcn63]

I should have said turn-based JRPGs. That narrows that list down a bit and it's still missing many of the genres greats. No Suikoden, no Chrono, no Grandia, no Wild Arms, a good chunk of the Final Fantasy series, no Skies, etc.

Many of those can be tackled by emulation, usually running with better image quality. I've still got PSX/PS2 discs lying about.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

I should have said turn-based JRPGs. That narrows that list down a bit and it's still missing many of the genres greats. No Suikoden, no Chrono, no Grandia, no Wild Arms, a good chunk of the Final Fantasy series, no Skies, etc.

But yes, I am happy the library is growing and I'm excited for more Trails when it hits.

It's somewhat unfair if you narrow it down to not only a genre but a sub-genre. How many turn based JRPGs are on PS4/Xbone?

 

[ViolentP]

I've heard the "you can get a good pc for playing games for $500" argument and it just doesn't seem plausible.

It's a bit difficult putting that single price on a PC due to the level of customization involved. But I'm fairly certain you can build a capable PC around the $500 mark. More importantly is the amount of money saved on software. There simply is no comparison in my opinion.

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

Ys 1, 2, Origin, Oath in Felghana.
The Last Remnant
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Reccetear
Half Minute Hero 1 and 2
Final Fantasy III, VII and VIII
Agarest: Generations of War Zero
Phantasy Star II, III and IV

These are all (or mostly) ports that came out YEARS after the originals though. Seriously, Phantasy Star and Ys??? I played these games almost two decades ago.

 

[Crash Station]

It's somewhat unfair if you narrow it down to not only a genre but a sub-genre. How many turn based JRPGs are on PS4/Xbone?

That's one reason I don't have a PS4/Xbone either. I was very close to going handheld-only this gen.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

Human Years...

IOS 1-4
Nintendo 5-12
Xbox Playstation 13-24
PC 25-end

Someones kidding themselves about demographics.

 

[XShadows69]

I have and I love it!

However, I do agree that the inital cost can be a bit up there. However, in the long run, definitely cheaper. No doubt about it. I think I've spent around the cost of 1 PS4 game and have gotten around 12 PC Games through Steam(Sales) and Humble Bundles.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

These are all ports that came out YEARS after the originals though.

Some of them did. But they are still there. And that was because Japanese support for PC was garbage for the longest time. Now it's being recognised as a viable platform and stuff like Trails 2 is getting a simultaneous release. But as has been said before, I don't mind waiting if it means I'm getting the best version which tends to be the case.

 

[Seanspeed]

And if we're using an ice cream analogy - I love a certain brand of ice cream (let's call it brand A) because the ingredients they use, and the flavors they sell appeal to me. So if someone asks me, "why don't you buy an ice cream maker because it allows for more freedom and openness" - but you still can't replicate any of the styles of ice cream that brand A sells - why would I invest in an ice cream maker?

How about get a bit more specific as to what sort and 'style' of games you're talking that you can only get on console.

I mean, most developers don't ever just make one type of game and one type of game alone. Some do, but most don't. It does actually sound like you're just more interested in having what games you should play fed to you by these developers you trust rather than trying to be a bit more adventurous and trying other games out. Which.....is ok. I couldn't live like that, but there's nothing inherently wrong with doing that. But don't go saying that you 'don't like' anything else, because its not that you don't like it, its that you're just not willing to give them a chance because you want to go with what you consider safer choices.

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

Play what you want to play, that's fine, and I'm not suggesting you should get a PC or anything, but its very hard to shake the feeling that you're not still kind of going out of your way to write off PC games/gaming with unnecessary 'justifications' like this.

It's pretty simple dude. I like Zelda. So why would I play an 8th rate copycat Zelda game on PC when I could just get a Nintendo console and play Zelda on it? I like Persona - so why would I get a platform that DOESN'T have Persona?

 

[gelf]

JRPGs.

A better genre for that question is 3D fighters. Virtua Fighter 2 forever ago is the last one I can think of.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

And if we're using an ice cream analogy - I love a certain brand of ice cream (let's call it brand A) because the ingredients they use, and the flavors they sell appeal to me. So if someone asks me, "why don't you buy an ice cream maker because it allows for more freedom and openness" - but you still can't replicate any of the styles of ice cream that brand A sells - why would I invest in an ice cream maker?

Too simplistic for its own good. For more accuracy give less emphasis to brands. Consoles are Ice cream of many brands that you can get at this particular restaurant plus their signature ice creams, PC is the Ice cream that you can get anywhere else and eat in your house.

 

[3DimensionalAperture]

Japanese support for PC was garbage for the longest time..

No offense man, but it still kind of is if someone asks you to name PC JRPGs and all people can rank off are 25 year old games we played when we were kids. And more to the point, why would anyone in their right mind buy a gaming rig to play Final Fantasy 7?

 

[SSPssp]

A better genre for that question is 3D fighters. Virtua Fighter 2 forever ago is the last one I can think of.

Dang you're right about that. Steam is getting good 2D fighters though thankfully. Ultra SF4, and the KOF series are on PC/Steam. I would really like Tekken, Soul Calibur and DOA to come to PC.

Soul Calibur's art with downsampling would be drool-worthy.

We can dream...

 

[Dictator93]

Dang you're right about that. Steam is getting good 2D fighters though thankfully. Ultra SF4, and the KOF series are on PC/Steam. I would really like Tekken, Soul Calibur and DOA to come to PC.

Soul Calibur's art with downsampling would be drool-worthy.

 

[Skyzard]

PC costs to start with (obviously you want the best or close so it will last without giving you headaches) but it rewards well with diversity, cheap games, great looking games and just in general awesomeness relating to the hobby.

 

[rtcn63]

No offense man, but it still kind of is if someone asks you to name PC JRPGs and all people can rank off are 25 year old games we played when we were kids. And more to the point, why would anyone in their right mind buy a gaming rig to play Final Fantasy 7?

I remember FF7 being the main reason I bought a PSX back in the day, after playing the intro at my brother's friend's.

Also, recent traditional JRPGs haven't been too great, outside Persona, maybe Xenoblade and Lost Oddysey. It's not a genre as popular as it was. Strategy turn-based ones seem to still be getting love, though.

 

[Opiate]

You keep making the same logical fallacy that I never played games that are more common on PC. Please stop.

Okay, what PC games have you played at length (beaten, let's say, as a quantifiable value)? How much PC gaming have you done? Can you cite which specific logical fallacy I'm falling prey to?

It's fine that you're not into iOS games, but this isn't a thread about iOS games, and more specifically, this isn't a thread about why you don't play iOS games. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp here. And more to the point - you know what I'm not going to do? I'm not going to launch into some defensive machinations over why you don't play iOS games and espouse a whole load of hot nonsense and supposition just because we don't like the same styles of games.

You really do not grasp my argument here.

 

[useyourfist]

I want one but I couldn't afford/justify having a top spec rig as I don't get much time to game. So my ps4 will do me fine.

 

[neoemonk]

FF14 has pretty visible and helpful UI scaling, as does Civ V (although FF14s is way better and not automatic). But it is a problem in a ton of games I agree.

I found them both to be inadequate. There is text in both games that I could not increase the font size on. I suppose it's possible that I just missed the options, but it was enough to make me switch back to my monitor.

Personally I don't mind, I just want people to be aware that hooking the PC up to your HDTV is not the perfect solution I sometimes see it touted as.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Normally I'd agree, except we then get this:



A PS4 costs $400 and comes out of the box with a controller, all required wires, an OS, and for a modest fee each year you get 12 free games and even better discounts on Sony's already good digital sales. In addition to the digital sales, you have a variety of physical retailers who sell used or marked down physical copies of new games. The system will last you for the next five years, likely without breaking down and will play a large variety of third party titles and first-party exclusives until the PS5.

Now, you have $400 to build your core system. It must last five years and be able to meet the minimum required specs for games to be released in five years, you must include the cost of wires, keyboard and mouse, controller (if desired), as well as the cost of the OS. Wait, let's be generous; Call it $550 for five years of PS+ bought during a Black Friday deal, and you don't even have to account for the 60 free games a PS+ user would use.

Have fun!

There's been a thread about this a while ago It includes everything you are about to say and even dignifies all the goalpost moving you are about to do.
So go read it, having that thread play out for the umpteenth time is redundant.
The total cost was 440 dollars
550 buys you something considerably much better
Have fun reading that thread

 

[charsace]

The PC online community isn't any worse than console. It is worse than the 90's and late 00's though because more people got into tech, destroying the feeling of community that PC games used to have just like what happened on Xbox and PS2.

 

[OccamsLightsaber]

Waiting on 800...now 900

The PC online community isn't any worse than console. It is worse than the 90's and late 00's though because more people got into tech, destroying the feeling of community that PC games used to have just like what happened on Xbox and PS2.

The elitism WITHIN the community is what turns me off in particular. I saw someone get shit for having a 1600x900 monitor with a GTX 770.

 

[Seanspeed]

It's pretty simple dude. I like Zelda. So why would I play an 8th rate copycat Zelda game on PC when I could just get a Nintendo console and play Zelda on it? I like Persona - so why would I get a platform that DOESN'T have Persona?

I don't think you're quite understanding what I'm saying. Play what you want to play where its available. But when you say PC games 'aren't your cup of tea', what it seems you really mean is 'I'd rather just keep playing what I know'.

A person has never had steak, but really likes chicken. At a restaurant, he orders chicken. Their friend says, "Why not try the steak instead?"

So at this point, a reasonable reply would be, "Well, I know I'll like the chicken." Cant really argue with that.

What I wouldn't consider a reasonably reply is, "I don't like steak, I like chicken." It is totally unnecessary to say that.

 

[Storm Chamber]

But... I have!

lol

 

[Seanspeed]

Self important new-page bump(sorry)

It's pretty simple dude. I like Zelda. So why would I play an 8th rate copycat Zelda game on PC when I could just get a Nintendo console and play Zelda on it? I like Persona - so why would I get a platform that DOESN'T have Persona?

I don't think you're quite understanding what I'm saying. Play what you want to play where its available. But when you say PC games 'aren't your cup of tea', what it seems you really mean is 'I'd rather just keep playing what I know'.

A person has never had steak, but really likes chicken. At a restaurant, he orders chicken. Their friend says, "Why not try the steak instead?"

So at this point, a reasonable reply would be, "Well, I know I'll like the chicken." Cant really argue with that.

What I wouldn't consider a reasonable reply is, "I don't like steak, I like chicken." It is totally unnecessary to say that.

 

[Zaku]

There's been a thread about this a while ago It includes everything you are about to say and even dignifies all the goalpost moving you are about to do.
So go read it, having that thread play out for the umpteenth time is redundant.
The total cost was 440 dollars
550 buys you something considerably much better
Have fun reading that thread

Got a link?

Because honestly, I'm curious about this $440 build. I'm more than willing to acknowledge it if I'm wrong, but most builds I've seen are predicated on one or more of the following:

-Getting parts used or from previous builds
-A build which will obviously not last five years
-Rely on Steam sales versus full price console releases to justify their status as cheaper

I'm saying I don't see how it's cheaper as someone who games on both. I'm not a console defender, just someone who's been on both sides of the fence and sees both the positives and the negatives each has to offer.

If I'm wrong, I'll happily apologize.