Why haven't you bought a PC yet?
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Raonak
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i do have a PC, but use it mainly for browsing internet and game development, I rarely game/watch on it.
I believe it's because im quite invested in the playstation ecosystems, I have a large backlog of games (namely due to PS+) and have 24 platinum trophies. at this point in time, gaming on PC seems unnecessary unless I really have to. (like leauge of legends, which i have a like-hate relationship with)
most of my and game testing is done on a PC, so technically I do game on it?
I really enjoy PS exclusives, 4/5 of my favourite games last gen were PS3 exclusives (TLOU, uncharted 2, MGS4, Demons souls, and DMC4) so getting a PS4 was a no brainer.
I believe it's because im quite invested in the playstation ecosystems, I have a large backlog of games (namely due to PS+) and have 24 platinum trophies. at this point in time, gaming on PC seems unnecessary unless I really have to. (like leauge of legends, which i have a like-hate relationship with)
most of my and game testing is done on a PC, so technically I do game on it?
I really enjoy PS exclusives, 4/5 of my favourite games last gen were PS3 exclusives (TLOU, uncharted 2, MGS4, Demons souls, and DMC4) so getting a PS4 was a no brainer.
A PC worth $600 in the states costs about $950 here in Mexico, the entry price is ridiculous. Gaming PCs are such a rare sight, and the ones who have them got ripped into buying a crappy AMD FX builds with terrible cases, PSUs, HDDs and overall bad choice of components, however, the difference in software price is HUGE, I pay 4 times for console games, Steam will NEVER be as popular here as it is in other places, and I imagine that's the case for some other countries.
With that said, USA residents should be ashamed for not getting one, they don't know how easy they have it and what they're missing, I bought the Witcher 1 & 2 for 7 dollars, LA Noire for $4, Garden Warfare for $20, Bioshock trillogy for $10, Dark Souls for $20, I can play blizzard games (I kindda feel bad for devs, the income they make on sales must be terrible), and the most important thing is: I will get an Oculus Rift consumer version.
I paid like $20,000 MXN for mine ($1500 dollars, PS4 is $6500-7500 MXN for reference) and I don't regret it one bit, I have MS office for university, books, Adobe Photoshop, Spotify, web browsers, emulators, online movie websites, and a shit ton of programs.
Edit: I do plan on investing on a PS4 next year, the exclusives and simplicity of it are very tempting.
With that said, USA residents should be ashamed for not getting one, they don't know how easy they have it and what they're missing, I bought the Witcher 1 & 2 for 7 dollars, LA Noire for $4, Garden Warfare for $20, Bioshock trillogy for $10, Dark Souls for $20, I can play blizzard games (I kindda feel bad for devs, the income they make on sales must be terrible), and the most important thing is: I will get an Oculus Rift consumer version.
I paid like $20,000 MXN for mine ($1500 dollars, PS4 is $6500-7500 MXN for reference) and I don't regret it one bit, I have MS office for university, books, Adobe Photoshop, Spotify, web browsers, emulators, online movie websites, and a shit ton of programs.
Edit: I do plan on investing on a PS4 next year, the exclusives and simplicity of it are very tempting.
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Boss Man
Member
Steam has come a long way in fixing the main problem I had with PC gaming. I like to have a closed platform where everything sort of lives and acts together. I don't think Steam is quite the same as a console, but it's close enough.
There's also a big problem with cheating in PC games. In addition to that, when you step away from the closed platform you've got people with all kinds of different mouses or whatever and everything just feels less 'legitimate' to me, as silly as that might sound. Even offline, there's nothing stopping me from installing some mod that turns Skyrim into some MLP nightmare. In some games (like Skyrim), that's a plus. In others, like Dark Souls for instance, I feel like the experience is cheapened just knowing that it's possible for me to stop struggling through a certain part of the game and do something like that with a few clicks.
I'm building a PC now (finally), but I don't think I'll ever get rid of my consoles. The main reason I'm finally building a PC is just so I can play Civ 5 without having my laptop overheat, and because I'm a programmer who's never owned a nice PC so novelty I guess.
At the end of the day it just comes down to what you like. PC will always offer better image quality and more customization. Consoles will probably always be better for community stuff, playing with friends, and simple ease of access. For a lot of people, what you gain from a PC over consoles is just not worth that extra cost. Honestly, I'm in the process of building one right now and I feel like it's probably a waste...but I kind of just want to do it.
There's also a big problem with cheating in PC games. In addition to that, when you step away from the closed platform you've got people with all kinds of different mouses or whatever and everything just feels less 'legitimate' to me, as silly as that might sound. Even offline, there's nothing stopping me from installing some mod that turns Skyrim into some MLP nightmare. In some games (like Skyrim), that's a plus. In others, like Dark Souls for instance, I feel like the experience is cheapened just knowing that it's possible for me to stop struggling through a certain part of the game and do something like that with a few clicks.
I'm building a PC now (finally), but I don't think I'll ever get rid of my consoles. The main reason I'm finally building a PC is just so I can play Civ 5 without having my laptop overheat, and because I'm a programmer who's never owned a nice PC so novelty I guess.
At the end of the day it just comes down to what you like. PC will always offer better image quality and more customization. Consoles will probably always be better for community stuff, playing with friends, and simple ease of access. For a lot of people, what you gain from a PC over consoles is just not worth that extra cost. Honestly, I'm in the process of building one right now and I feel like it's probably a waste...but I kind of just want to do it.
This kind of rubs me the wrong way: I don't need an excuse to not buy something, I need a reason to buy it. Not buying stuff - especially when it cost several hundred dollar - is, for me, the default. If I have sufficient reason to buy it, I'll buy it. That doesn't mean my reasons are always 100% rational, but in that price range, I want to make sure it's something that I will put to good use. I think in that sense the thread title is maybe poorly chosen, since it puts people on the defensive right from the start, and any answer will sound like an excuse. Doesn't mean you can't highlight the advantages of PC gaming, and I suspect that many console-only folks here would be happy to also have a good gaming PC if they had more time and money. But with limited resources, not buying a PC is not about making excuses, it's about priorities.
No one should be ashamed of not buying something they don't want / can't afford / don't have time to use.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Reason to rule it out then, not excuse to not buy it.
You are right excuse is a shitty word as it implies you should buy something by default (trust me I am of the exact opposite opinion I fuckin hate consumerism)
That is not what I meant.
Noone needs to buy anything, I prefer when people think hard and rationally before they buy anything it's better for consumers as a whole.
The ps3 did not have ns2 or cs 1.6 or stalker , that does not mean it's a reason for me not to consider one too. It had some games I wanted (gran turismo, final fantasy -though that obviously backfired hard with ff13
- ,bayonetta and later got dragon's dogma) which made me want one, so I bought one in 2008.It may be an inferior piece of shit hardware and platform wise but I had lots of fun playing DD, r&c, metal gear online and bayonetta so I got my money's worth eventually.
I cannot afford one = a perfectly valid reason (and has been stated several times in this thread and noone had an issue with it)
I can't afford both or simply refuse to spend more than x money on my gaming every year and have to get my bayonetta on so I'm triaging is a valid reason.
I chose a console because it's cheaper to game on consoles = not true so it's not a reason.
It doesn't have x and Y exclusive is also not a reason (assuming you don't have to triage) There are tons of awesome exclusives on pc and there is a lot on the platform that you can't do on a console - gaming wise-
The idea that pc exclusives are inferior to console ones or that all the good exclusives worth playing to you just HAPPEN to only be on playstation or w/e (like the aperture guy on the last pages...) is just disingenuous and petty.
It's just an excuse to not have to dignify that the platform exists, by pretending you won't like any of the games on it.
Let me try to paraphrase what the OP was about and people like me or seanspeed are posting in the thread for:
The OP basically said: hey guys there is a whole world of gaming out there beyond the consoles.
Don't be discouraged by any misconceptions you have heard about the platform, most of them are not true.
Go check it out, there is a lot to like there, broaden your horizons (in a non condescending way)
Then the thread gets flooded with the same misconceptions dating back to the 90s that prevent people from giving it a fair shake (ini files and settings are scary, costs 3000 dollars! , takes a knowledgable geek to build one, need to upgrade every 2 years to be able to keep playing the games, need to buy a more powerful pc to get parity with consoles it doesn't have as many exclusives as consoles and a whole bunch of other fud that is simply not true)
We try to tell people they aren't true and why they're not true, so people can make their own decisions without being scared off by a bunch of FUD
If you saw my posts in the pc threads you'd know I'm far from some kind of PC defense force.
I'll shit on hardware prices and stagnation, collusion between vendors , bad ports, steam greenlight taking a dump on the steam store, steam controller imo being a redundant POS that I'm afraid will cripple any game designed to accomodate it, etc etc etc at any opportunity
But if is something is wrong it's wrong , and this thread has been full of wrong 3rd hand opinions about what pc and pc gaming entails.
Any coy or condescending attitude you see from pc gamers in these threads (which does not mean pc only gamers btw, most of us have multiple consoles) is normally directed at the people spreading that FUD (a better word would be regurgitate that fud for the 20th time) , not at people who play games on consoles or people who don't have a pc.
Punchy4486
Banned
I know absolutely nothing about putting together PC components, or what works well with what, or what each individual part does or doesn't do. And I can't really be assed to learn.
I also absolutely loathe when I buy a PC game, try to start it up, and it just doesn't start, because I have to dig into some system files and adjust something or other. Something as simple as starting up the Half-Life Decay in Half-Life on Steam took me a few attempts and going back now I can't remember how to make it work. I got the Witcher for my older PC a few years ago and couldn't get past the install screen and couldn't figure out why. Same with Amnesia. Admittedly, my PC is old and that may have been the reason, but I have no idea.
I also know next to nothing about changing settings on my games, so I would likely just play based on whatever the game default's to.
These are my reasons for considering just buying some packaged AlienWare bullshit and waste tons of money, but then the cost becomes intimidating. Especially since I would solely keep it connected to my TV, and it would almost entirely be for gaming.
I also absolutely loathe when I buy a PC game, try to start it up, and it just doesn't start, because I have to dig into some system files and adjust something or other. Something as simple as starting up the Half-Life Decay in Half-Life on Steam took me a few attempts and going back now I can't remember how to make it work. I got the Witcher for my older PC a few years ago and couldn't get past the install screen and couldn't figure out why. Same with Amnesia. Admittedly, my PC is old and that may have been the reason, but I have no idea.
I also know next to nothing about changing settings on my games, so I would likely just play based on whatever the game default's to.
These are my reasons for considering just buying some packaged AlienWare bullshit and waste tons of money, but then the cost becomes intimidating. Especially since I would solely keep it connected to my TV, and it would almost entirely be for gaming.
SteveWinwood
Member
its so amazingly spot on
SneakyStephan
Banned
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835397
People will be more than willing to help you in this thread and answer all your questions (and the OP has a ton of information)
Don't buy some alienware or other OEM piece of shit
waste of moneyThe intimidation factor of building a new pc is understandable (but no longer warranted), as is dealing with graphics settings if you've never seen them before, but it's no more difficult than legos and following simple instructions (+ you can pay most pc part shops to put the parts together for a small fee if you are really that worried)
Coming to grips with what settings mean is no harder than coming to grips with the game mechanics and menus in any random new game you buy)
It's a really small time/effort investment for an enormous payoff afterwards (narrow camera field of view make you dizzy? increase it, annoyed with the sun blinding you? turn off the shitty bloom, annoyances be gone!)
If you can figure out how to work a phone you can figure out how to work a pc for games.
Mods are for more advanced users , but it's also not difficult, noone forces you to use them they aren't even an option on consoles and most people who do use them absolutely adore being able to.
Having to mess with Ini files is not even a thing anymore in 99.9 percent of games.
Steam makes installing and updating a game as easy (and faster) than it is on your ps4
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
This is the weirdest imaginary amalgamation of strawman I've seen.
Sentenza
Member
That's actually an incredibly accurate analogy.
Every excuse said in that post is used by many, many people in threads everyday on this very forum.
Punchy4486
Banned
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=835397
People will be more than willing to help you in this thread and answer all your questions (and the OP has a ton of information)
Don't buy some alienware or other OEM piece of shit
Yeah I've been cautiously watching that thread, and considering it for when I start thinking about my TV-only gaming PC in a few months. It's still intimidating but I think I'll give it a shot at that time. Thanks!
Atraveller
Banned
SneakyStephan
Banned
Don't be afraid to ask questions in that thread, people are eager to help, that's why they go there.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yes, which is why I called it an amalgamation. No one is going to sit down and rattle off that entire list. And if they do, they need mental help. I get it was supposed to be hyperbole, but... a tad excessive.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Gaming is not a cheap hobby to be in, so it is understandable for someone who already finds a "zone" that he's comfortable in (say, "console zone") does not want or hesitate to venture outside of that area.
I dunno, it feels like to me that you're blaming the guy because he doesn't want to try "new experiences" because in you just assume that he doesn't have any limitations on doing so (time, money, preferences, etc etc)
shinobi602
Member
Consoles already do what I want out of gaming really, I don't have a need to invest in a gaming PC.
FriedConsole
Banned
Is this the gaming equivalent of saying you don't have an "open mind" when someone has a different opinion?
I was exclusively PC for 10 years and never going back.
Conkersbadfurday
Member
I'm hoping to restart and buy a new one (or rather, build) this year for Alien Isolation. Haven't upgraded my PC since 2010 and it's time to.
My wallet is terrified.
My wallet is terrified.
Sentenza
Member
Maybe, probably not without good reason either.
I mean, saying something like "I just don't like games that are on PC" given the amount of diversity on the platform is pretty much a broad statement comparable to "I don't like stories in movies".
Of course no one will ever deny you the right to state it, but to people with actual familiarity with the topic it will probably strike as something silly and closed-minded to say.
farmerboy
Member
Same reason I don't have a Wii U, arcade cabinets and other various things; I have neither the time nor money to put toward anything extra.
I have about 10 hrs a week tops to devote to my hobby, so a console is about all I need. A console being cheaper and accessible also makes it preferable.
A wife and kids and a mortgage means money wise I have nothing for myself! So I can only concentrate on buying one machine.
I swear though, one day I will have a MAME cabinet, and I guess that is a PC as well!!
I have about 10 hrs a week tops to devote to my hobby, so a console is about all I need. A console being cheaper and accessible also makes it preferable.
A wife and kids and a mortgage means money wise I have nothing for myself! So I can only concentrate on buying one machine.
I swear though, one day I will have a MAME cabinet, and I guess that is a PC as well!!
Nabs
Member
Chill, bruh. That's Microsoft's idea of exclusive PC content. Welcome to the first boss of Dark Souls PC.
You might need to download and update GFWL. You might need to go to xbox.com and agree to the new terms of service. You might need to sacrifice someone. Don't blame PC gaming for Microsofts bullshit.
And why would you scour Gamefaqs of all sites? You're on GAF!
Brofist
Member
Well played
BumbleChump
Banned
Because I'm perfectly fine browsing the web on my "Game. com"
crazy monkey
Banned
I prefer laptop, I do not spend more then 200 dollar on console and 400 dollars on laptop. I only change my laptop once every 6 years or so. I do not buy console untill they are sub 200 dollars. I do not buy game for more then 15 either. I wait many years if i have to. I do not care about graphics at all.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Too much of a hassle to upkeep. I just want to sit and play.
kerotan_eater
Banned
First off fyi, I have a mid range PC from 2011 so I can say why I haven't gone quite PC master race yet.
Anyhow going by US prices.
A PC which can go like for like (entirely) for a PS4 will still be more expensive than a PS4 seeing as how Sony will by in waaaay bigger bulk, therefore driving down prices.
So just to get the exact same performance for $400, might not get the same performance. Ok that's fine, in a year's time this will change. But also I need to buy a new monitor and a new chair specifically for my PC gaming needs. Also no real surround sound because I have no space and it cost extra on top =(
I'm going to be spending a lot more money for all that.
Very few videogames I care for in the bigger budget exclusives. I am not a fan of multiplayer games (DOTA, MMOs, RTS's) mainly because my family is on consoles. Don't care at all for playing with randoms. Everything else on PC goes to consoles.
I like my narrative driven games. There are indeed some indies. But the shit that gets attention will likely go to consoles which have a really awesome TV, surround sound and amazing couch.
Yes I hear ya Gone Home and The Stanley Parable haven't come to consoles yet, but this is about higher end gaming in my specific situation. Since PC spec requirements I are slowing down, I feel I'll be able to run most 100% of narrative driven indie titles (which are very rarely power hungry) for quite a while I feel. Those two exclusive games mentioned? I can run them on their highest settings, no problem still.
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So what will get me to upgrade? Half Life 3 VR Edition =)
Nah I'm kidding, but it'll basically be when the Rift comes out. that is when I'll be doing my bloody expensive upgrade which I'll want to future proof with these intensive VR games on top of everything. I posit spending at least $1000 for all that plus peripherals, including a Rift.
That requires some bloody saving =(
Right now, my PS4, XB1, Wii U, 3DS, Vita, HTC One and iPad will have to do for gaming purposes, along with having their own hardware pros like portability of watching videos and also do all manner of things, along with exclusive videogames on each device.
PC gaming will come, but really only because of Oculus. Otherwise, I probably won't upgrade for another three or four years, where indie/mid tier games themselves start to look shit
Anyhow going by US prices.
A PC which can go like for like (entirely) for a PS4 will still be more expensive than a PS4 seeing as how Sony will by in waaaay bigger bulk, therefore driving down prices.
So just to get the exact same performance for $400, might not get the same performance. Ok that's fine, in a year's time this will change. But also I need to buy a new monitor and a new chair specifically for my PC gaming needs. Also no real surround sound because I have no space and it cost extra on top =(
I'm going to be spending a lot more money for all that.
Very few videogames I care for in the bigger budget exclusives. I am not a fan of multiplayer games (DOTA, MMOs, RTS's) mainly because my family is on consoles. Don't care at all for playing with randoms. Everything else on PC goes to consoles.
I like my narrative driven games. There are indeed some indies. But the shit that gets attention will likely go to consoles which have a really awesome TV, surround sound and amazing couch.
Yes I hear ya Gone Home and The Stanley Parable haven't come to consoles yet, but this is about higher end gaming in my specific situation. Since PC spec requirements I are slowing down, I feel I'll be able to run most 100% of narrative driven indie titles (which are very rarely power hungry) for quite a while I feel. Those two exclusive games mentioned? I can run them on their highest settings, no problem still.
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So what will get me to upgrade? Half Life 3 VR Edition =)
Nah I'm kidding, but it'll basically be when the Rift comes out. that is when I'll be doing my bloody expensive upgrade which I'll want to future proof with these intensive VR games on top of everything. I posit spending at least $1000 for all that plus peripherals, including a Rift.
That requires some bloody saving =(
Right now, my PS4, XB1, Wii U, 3DS, Vita, HTC One and iPad will have to do for gaming purposes, along with having their own hardware pros like portability of watching videos and also do all manner of things, along with exclusive videogames on each device.
PC gaming will come, but really only because of Oculus. Otherwise, I probably won't upgrade for another three or four years, where indie/mid tier games themselves start to look shit
I have bought at least 3 gaming PCs and updated the video cards somewhat often, but I never played games on it, because I just did not want to play games at a desk, and I now just prefer MAC laptops for both work, travel, and personal use, especially since my work pays for most of the cost. People say gaming has evolved in that it is easy to use at a TV, there is good controller support, and Steam has a TV mode. Let me tell you though, it isn't as great as it sounds. At some point in the process you always end up needing a mouse and a keyboard, and it just isn't ideal.
I also just don't like Windows, and the last thing I want to do after working on a computer all day is mess with anything to play a game. I just want to pick up a controller, push a button, and play. The PS4 is just better for me at this point in life.
I also just don't like Windows, and the last thing I want to do after working on a computer all day is mess with anything to play a game. I just want to pick up a controller, push a button, and play. The PS4 is just better for me at this point in life.
"Can it play uncharted? Thought so"
This depends to some extend on the person's gaming habits, though. If someone only buys a handful of used games a year, console gaming can be fairly cheap as well. Of course, most people on this board likely buy a lot more games than that, so it's less likely to be true, but to just declare it false without knowing the person and their situation is a bit presumptuous.
To be honest, I don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't have to triage, either with regard to time or to money (or because of a significant other / family).
I totally agree. Which is why I have a gaming PC.
I don't know what you mean by 'dignify that the platform exists'. If you mean 'acknowledge its existence', I don't think anyone is denying it's existence, so I think I'm misunderstanding this.
I don't disagree with the OP, I think there is some good information and it's important to point those things out. That's why I said in my post it 'doesn't mean you can't highlight the advantages of PC gaming'. It's just the thread title that is phrased in a way that puts people who don't have a gaming PC in a position where they have to justify why they didn't buy this thing that you bought.
I appreciate that you want to correct wrong statements (and this is why I like reading Gaf, people don't get away with talking garbage). But you make it sound like there is a deliberate effort to disparage PC gaming. If the point of this thread is to inform and convince people, you will achieve a lot more by not being condescending (and I don't mean you in particular here, just generally speaking), but listening to people's concerns and assuming that those concerns are genuine, rather than dismissing them as spreading fud. I understand it's annoying if you have to argue the same thing repeatedly, and of course, you'll never change everybody's minds, but, really, not everyone has to be a PC gamer, it's perfectly OK for people to play on console only even if they could get a PC.
This can sometimes be hard to distinguish in threads like this.
Sentenza
Member
That's a completely fair point.
In fact I always precise that I find PC gaming far more affordable considering the amount of software I consume every year.
Obviously not everyone is going to buy 20-to-40 games every year as I do, so not everyone will find the price of software so relevant into the equation... But to me the simple truth looking around a bit is that I wouldn't be able to afford a fraction of my purchases going by console pricing and putting even online subscriptions on top of that.
If your gaming habits consist mostly of buying COD and Madden yearly and a Persona or Zelda game every decade, then by all means console gaming is going to be very cheap for you.
I must be a rarity in that I have zero interest in consoles, and also zero interest in converting people to PC. I don't even care much about the graphical superiority of PC, I just prefer games like CK2, EU, Starcraft, Wargame. Not to mention FPS titles on mouse and keyboard. It's rare that I'll buy what is essentially a console game (Assassin's Creed, Saints Row) for PC unless I catch it on sale for like 6 bucks. Haven't been tempted by a console exclusive since...hell, Perfect Dark.
But yeah, I don't understand this obsession with PC vs Console. Most people have no idea how to properly maintain a computer so I actually think it's an awful idea to try to sell a console diehard on PC gaming.
But yeah, I don't understand this obsession with PC vs Console. Most people have no idea how to properly maintain a computer so I actually think it's an awful idea to try to sell a console diehard on PC gaming.
Fbh
Member
- I've got more friends on consoles
- I like console exclusive and think third party games (at least until the final years) run well enough
- I like the whole trading-reselling aspect of console games
- I don't think PC gaming is that much cheaper. The base investment is higher and I'd keep buying a lot of games at launch (based on the reasons I buy games at launch I wouldn't wait for them to be on sale for $5 on PC), plus unless I love a certain game I tend to resell them to buy new ones. I just got Metro Redux a week ago having to pay only $15 because I sold my copy of watch dogs for $35.
- Because of my work and studies, I really needed a laptop. Plus I find them more confortable for everything but gaming. So I decided to invest the money I could have used for a mid-range PC to get a decent laptop.
Next year I should start my first "real" work (so far I've been working part time while I study) and I think I'll start saving for a PC.
- I like console exclusive and think third party games (at least until the final years) run well enough
- I like the whole trading-reselling aspect of console games
- I don't think PC gaming is that much cheaper. The base investment is higher and I'd keep buying a lot of games at launch (based on the reasons I buy games at launch I wouldn't wait for them to be on sale for $5 on PC), plus unless I love a certain game I tend to resell them to buy new ones. I just got Metro Redux a week ago having to pay only $15 because I sold my copy of watch dogs for $35.
- Because of my work and studies, I really needed a laptop. Plus I find them more confortable for everything but gaming. So I decided to invest the money I could have used for a mid-range PC to get a decent laptop.
Next year I should start my first "real" work (so far I've been working part time while I study) and I think I'll start saving for a PC.
GavinUK86
Member
For some reason, I read that in a Russian accent.
QuickSilverD
Member
I have a laptop (i3 with HD4000 graphics) so couldn't play more than a few indies in it anyway, meaning if I wanted a gaming PC I would have to actually built one up from scratch, this is a hassle for me.
I like how I can just buy a console every 5-7 years and not have to worry about anything else, no problems with compatibility or drivers or whatever.
I care about graphics but I'm not bothered by not having the latest most impressive graphics, hell PS3 still looks good to me, and I now that when I upgrade to PS4 the graphics will vastly improve so I'm not worried about it.
I like how I can just buy a console every 5-7 years and not have to worry about anything else, no problems with compatibility or drivers or whatever.
I care about graphics but I'm not bothered by not having the latest most impressive graphics, hell PS3 still looks good to me, and I now that when I upgrade to PS4 the graphics will vastly improve so I'm not worried about it.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
I'm waiting to get my degree in Electrical Engineering before I build a new PC.
Still looks awesome too despite all these newer gen games being released in the meanwhile.
Some things I took from this thread:
It's not just about getting rid of all your consoles and sticking with PC gaming, you can still have your Zelda (Though most of those are technically on PC already) and your Uncharted, but you could always get it as a complementary system, have the best of both worlds.
Some are saying that there's no games on the PC that they're interested in, and that's a totally fair response, but think about it like this, there's apparently over 20,000 games on the PC, and over 3,500 on Steam alone. Has anyone who said there's zero games they're interested in literally looked at every single one of those at least on Steam? That sounds like a crazy amount of work but I did it and now my wishlist is stupidly big!
The point is, I would bet good money that the majority of people who brush off PC games don't fully know what's actually in there, I'm primarily a PC gamer and even I'm surprised as to what I can find that has slipped off my radar. You should actually try and look because you might find something that comes completely out of left field.
But that is all because PC gaming doesn't have Big Brother, there's no one there to tell you the system is awesome and you should buy it because here's the cool games we have and buzzword this buzzword that. The actual gamers take it upon themselves to try to convince others to try it out, just like this thread. Not because it's dying or void of all life, but because it's an experience unlike any other, an experience that you just can't assume what it's like unless you've tried it out.
I do agree though, that it's definitely not for everyone and you don't need an excuse to not PC game, you could just not want to; and some people are really elitist about it and take it too far. But you shouldn't let a few bad apples deter you from trying something new out, because then there would hardly be new things to try out!
It's not just about getting rid of all your consoles and sticking with PC gaming, you can still have your Zelda (Though most of those are technically on PC already
) and your Uncharted, but you could always get it as a complementary system, have the best of both worlds.Some are saying that there's no games on the PC that they're interested in, and that's a totally fair response, but think about it like this, there's apparently over 20,000 games on the PC, and over 3,500 on Steam alone. Has anyone who said there's zero games they're interested in literally looked at every single one of those at least on Steam? That sounds like a crazy amount of work but I did it and now my wishlist is stupidly big!
The point is, I would bet good money that the majority of people who brush off PC games don't fully know what's actually in there, I'm primarily a PC gamer and even I'm surprised as to what I can find that has slipped off my radar. You should actually try and look because you might find something that comes completely out of left field.
But that is all because PC gaming doesn't have Big Brother, there's no one there to tell you the system is awesome and you should buy it because here's the cool games we have and buzzword this buzzword that. The actual gamers take it upon themselves to try to convince others to try it out, just like this thread. Not because it's dying or void of all life, but because it's an experience unlike any other, an experience that you just can't assume what it's like unless you've tried it out.
I do agree though, that it's definitely not for everyone and you don't need an excuse to not PC game, you could just not want to; and some people are really elitist about it and take it too far. But you shouldn't let a few bad apples deter you from trying something new out, because then there would hardly be new things to try out!
And from what I have seen, first hand, from people I know who have used this service, you do not pay THAT much more in the end(unless you got all your parts on deals)
Dr. Black Jack
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We need a new PC but it will be for family stuff and not gaming.
I really want to build my own Steam box for the living room but it's just too much of a time investment right now. I barely have time to play my consoles from ten years ago, let alone a schnazzy new gaming PC.
I really want to build my own Steam box for the living room but it's just too much of a time investment right now. I barely have time to play my consoles from ten years ago, let alone a schnazzy new gaming PC.