Why haven't you bought a PC yet?
- Thread starter Gipsy Danger
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Then there's nothing left for me to say than because I don't want to. Non of the reasons explained by console-only gamers are enough. We are doing it wrong apparently.
I don't recall ever claiming that gaming on consoles is generally cheaper than doing so than on PC. The initial claim was that PC gaming is universally cheaper; I merely provided a counterexample based on personal experience. It's kind of cute that you're trying to knock holes by pointing out "limitations," though.
By the way, you're not supposed to capitalize "you" as you would "I" in the middle of sentences. I'm not a deity.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Theres plenty of reasons that are valid, but when people spew out the same old tired, debunked, lazy rhetoric they are understandably going to get called on it.
Sentenza
Member
I guess if you are clueless enough to get somehow stuck with viruses on a regular basis and you have good disposable money, then that premium price could sound a good deal.
Checking quickly right now I can find at least ten online stores that sell Dead Rising 3 for less than 24 (32 dollars).
And that's without even putting Russian TF2-key traders and so on into the equation.
I'm confident I could get similar results even for the other games you listed.
Somebody please explain how the key trading works, and is it safe?
Sentenza
Member
I know it may strike some people like some wild, audacious, unconventional thinking... But hear me out for a second: maybe if someone asks you "Why aren't you trying this great thing yet? It's good!" the point is not even supposed to be to come up with terrible excuses no matter what, but to actually give the idea a fair thought and consider it.
jfoul
Member
Yeah, I've saved so much money buying Steam games (Non Region Locked) from the GAF BST. The saving is even greater during steam sales. Recently purchased Witcher 3 ($18), Alien Isolation ($26), Divinity ($18), Dead Rising 3 ($21). Since these games are gifted, I've saved my friends plenty of money also.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I'd rather just pay the extra few bucks than buy off "people" in Russia.
I went with Steam's current pricing because I have the app on my phone. But like you said, you can shop around, which can be said for both formats.
I also tried looking up this Liezryou, but it's taking too long on my phone. It's not a store is it?
jfoul
Member
- Add him to your steam friends.
- Message him about the price of any non-region locked game.
- You Paypal the money.
- He trades you the game as a gift.
I've dealt with the following with Gaffers great results. The GAF BST community in general is pretty awesome.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You must have zero clue as to what the average person is like with a PC.
Atraveller
Banned
Liezryou is a gaffer.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Which ones are valid?
Reasons aren't the same as excuses.
"I'd love a high end gaming PC, but____" is different to "I never want a PC because ____"
Sentenza
Member
It's more that I have zero interest in it, because that's not an issue I suffer from.
"Viruses" are a problem just for... Let me put it as politely as possible... People who pirate a lot and/or people who tend to do a lot of stupid things interacting with a computer connected to the internet.
You don't get viruses passively, by mere chance. You get them actively doing things that cause your PC to get the "infection".
I blame the touch generation, people don't know how to handle real machines anymore.
Thank you for your thoughtful response, I really appreciate it. I completely agree that PC gaming is good, very good and most of the reasons pointed here (even myself) might be out of date. I don't know. It might very well be pure tradition and lack of openness but many of us prefer console-only gaming.
If someone opens a thread called: "Why haven't you bought a console yet?" Its going to be full of condescending responses about how PC is superior, cheaper, more customizable and full of gaming rig picks. You're right, PC-gaming might be that good and I'll give it a serious try someday, but console gaming is also great and no matter what, choosing one over the other does not make you less of a gamer, hardcore or not.
I'm always doing that as polite act/phrase
-Stranger-
Junior Member
nvm
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that PC gamers don't also have consoles.
Probably a thread like that would come down to "I did and I know what they offer and it doesn't interest me". Difference to this thread being that significant portion of gaffers have no idea what's it like to own a gaming PC in 2010s. This thread makes it painfully obvious.
And well that too. Even Steam OT has console/handhelds talk all the time.
-Stranger-
Junior Member
More of a console gamer, my PC sucks for gaming here are my specs lol
Intel Pentium D CPU 3.00 Ghz 2.99 Ghz
2 GB Ram
Don't even know what graphics card it has, it would be a very old one I doubt it would play much 3d stuff.
What would be ideal specs to have for gaming in 2014 and beyond?
There are a few PC games I wouldn't mind trying out.
Intel Pentium D CPU 3.00 Ghz 2.99 Ghz
2 GB Ram
Don't even know what graphics card it has, it would be a very old one I doubt it would play much 3d stuff.
What would be ideal specs to have for gaming in 2014 and beyond?
There are a few PC games I wouldn't mind trying out.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This sounds a little shady. I don't think I'd be comfortable doing that.
Do you think buying used games is shady? I think it's shadier in comparision. I mean it's the same thing: you get the game cheaper but the big difference being that developers get nothing.
Atraveller
Banned
Or you could trade with tf2 keys, Valve could revert the trade if anything happens.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Nothing shady about it. If developers want to they can region lock the games so you can't buy them from the Russian store. They just don't. It's no shadier than used games for consoles.
AntiFacebook
Member
Because I love paying for the "right" to play games online.
The Strokes
Banned
I've always wanted to build or to buy one But... I guess I have no real interest to do so because I could have done it in the past and didn't.
I think that I'll eventually buy one, but it will take a couple of years at the very least and even then it will probably not be my main gaming machine But a complement to the others I may have by then.
TL;DR I'll eventually buy one. For now I have no real interest.
I think that I'll eventually buy one, but it will take a couple of years at the very least and even then it will probably not be my main gaming machine But a complement to the others I may have by then.
TL;DR I'll eventually buy one. For now I have no real interest.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Can you name me the games that you are specifically not interested in? I know that's a strange question but I keep asking people and they never tell me. I'm still pretty sure most console only players don't know what the PC actually has to offer in terms of exclusives.
For me, the main benefit of the pc is the pc exclusive titles. There are of course console exclusive titles I've played and really enjoyed (huge fan of Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Xenoblade and Crackdown wasn't too shabby either), but I like stuff like Banished, PoE, Civ, Grimrock, Divinity more, and I place a high value on the back catalog and modding.
I can't knock console gaming, I very much enjoyed my time with it and long may it shine, but pc gaming is a better fit for me. As a child growing up in the UK in the 80's, I played Sinclair Spectrums and Commodore 64's. I grew up with computers, keyboards and messing about with weird and wonderful tape drives. They were always a part of my life in some form or another. Your formative years definitely has an influence, whether you come from a pc or console background.
I can't knock console gaming, I very much enjoyed my time with it and long may it shine, but pc gaming is a better fit for me. As a child growing up in the UK in the 80's, I played Sinclair Spectrums and Commodore 64's. I grew up with computers, keyboards and messing about with weird and wonderful tape drives. They were always a part of my life in some form or another. Your formative years definitely has an influence, whether you come from a pc or console background.
jfoul
Member
I felt the same way about a year ago, until I tried it. I tested the waters with games $5 and under, and all the transactions always went quick and easy. I've even bought steam gifts through Reddit software swap. GAF BST is my go to for steam games now though.
You can also check the GAF BST Buyer/Seller user feedback HERE.
I even built up the courage to buy an EVGA Geforce GTX 780 SC 3GB from JoseDFrog for $340. Card was mint, and has worked perfectly since day one.
ThePlayerofGames
Banned
Maybe it's out of a preference for console exclusives rather than pc exclusives?
This post right here is partly why I'll never be a pc gamer. The community. They do nothing but berate and condescend to anyone who doesn't have the same tastes and preferences as them.
This has that pc master race bs written all over it.
FeiRR
Banned
Sure many do.
Painfully obvious? Is it really that bad? Is there any reason why you would agree someone prefers console gaming over PC gaming or are all simply flawed?
Gipsy Danger
Member
How would you know you don't like PC exclusives (of which there are thousands) if you don't have a PC to play them?
Well it's a figure of speech. I'm not in pain but it's sweet of you to worry. Of course there are valid reasons to prefer console gaming over PC gaming. Don't be silly.
Atraveller
Banned
Comfy couch, DRM, driver updates, I'd say yes, those are outdated excuses.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
This post right here is what people are referring to when they talk about ignorance.
ThePlayerofGames
Banned
And this post proves my point about the community.
PC is increasingly becoming one of the last places where you can consistently find games with legitimate depth, especially RPGs. Stuff like Divinity, Pillars of Eternity, Wargame, Legend of Grimrock, M&MX, Natural Selection 2, CivV. Especially coming from a console generation that started a frustrating path of homogenization and appealing to the lowest common denominator.
That shit can get tiring fast. The PC library was a breath of fresh air coming from the very types of games that you're describing in your post, the same type of reason people are going towards handhelds for their Japanese games. It's a shame because it doesn't seem like that's changing in the slightest this generation.
Dictator93
Member
Saying the community of all pc gamers is X, is emblematic of an ignorant statement.
Atraveller
Banned
This post right here is what people are referring to when they talk about ignorance.
Sentenza
Member
But you don't have any actual point.
You are just making a baseless and rather silly claim.
LowEndTorque
Member
I already have a Personal Computer and I love it.
It's a MacBook Air
I'm just saying as a gamer there's less of an overlap between the PC library and other platforms compared other current generation consoles. You get a much broader range of games and experiences having a decent PC and a single console compared to, say, buying both a PS4 and XBO, where the overlap is significant. The fact that some people put up artificial barriers against that is insane to me, this is coming from a person who owns pretty much every console and just spent $300 on Xbox games, I consider myself a gamer first and foremost. My opinions have been formed by owning or experiencing pretty much everything when it comes to gaming hardware (well, past 1990).
Also I brought up ignorance due to reading some posts in this thread, some of them are insane.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The developer's cut has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about the act of making a purchase from some stranger in Russia, which you find less shadier than buying a preowned game from a reputable source.
What kind of mindset am I dealing with here?
Edit: I see this person is a Gaf member. Doesn't really change anything, but it looks like some of you have done transactions and are ok with it. Also, this really comes across as a grasping for straws in trying to show how much cheaper PC gaming is. This is really no different than me buying or trading a game with someone online.