Who are your favorite black Nintendo characters?

Im Scottish and Im not mad at Nintendo for not including my race in their games. So Nintendos main characters
Mario - italian plumber has to be white
Link - elflike dude probably could be black
Yoshi - green dinosaur, hes not even white but at least there are many different coloured yoshis
Kirby - hes pink, does this make him white really?
Fox McLeod - hes a fox, they are ginger (should definitely be Scottish, hes ginger and his surname is Mcleod, this just gave me the rage)
Samus - white chick

I could go on, but the point Im making is that Nintendo doesnt care about race. Its possibly a sub conscious representation of popular culture that when there is the choice of white or black they go white. If they made a main character black it would be because someone has told them they discriminate against black people and then were in the territory of them including a black main character for the wrong reasons. I just wish racism would die a horrible death so that everyone can join me in discriminating against stupid people (ironically at lot of these people are also racist)

OT chain chomp is my favourite black Nintendo character.
 
Little Mac is a hispanic looking dude ever since Punch Out Wii. He's definitely a person of color, and the first one in smash bros (that isn't ganondorf, though I doubt we're counting him considering he's literally evil incarnate)

Nope. Given his name, Little Mac, and his North East/Bronx origins, he is most likely Italian in the spirit of old-school Italian boxers. This hasn't changed with his appearance in newer games. SNES version is the only one where he looks like an ordinary white dude from the Valley.
 
Eh im making a guess.. If Nintendo gave us a full first and last name we would know. Assuming unknowm stuff is as good as fanfiction in my eyes, no offense.

Haha, to be fair, I haven't put much thought into it until now, because of this discussion. Which is why I just made that Rocky connection. No big deal either way.
 
Im Scottish and Im not mad at Nintendo for not including my race in their games. So Nintendos main characters
Mario - italian plumber has to be white
Link - elflike dude probably could be black
Yoshi - green dinosaur, hes not even white but at least there are many different coloured yoshis
Kirby - hes pink, does this make him white really?
Fox McLeod - hes a fox, they are ginger (should definitely be Scottish, hes ginger and his surname is Mcleod, this just gave me the rage)
Samus - white chick

I could go on, but the point Im making is that Nintendo doesnt care about race. Its possibly a sub conscious representation of popular culture that when there is the choice of white or black they go white. If they made a main character black it would be because someone has told them they discriminate against black people and then were in the territory of them including a black main character for the wrong reasons. I just wish racism would die a horrible death so that everyone can join me in discriminating against stupid people (ironically at lot of these people are also racist)

OT chain chomp is my favourite black Nintendo character.

Not even Argus has enough side-eye for this
 
Little Mac is an Italian New Yorker. Short, tough and scrappy. It perfectly fits in with all the other stereotypes in Punch Out.
 
They're heavily influenced by European fantasy.

Obviously there's influence, but there's no indication that they're meant to actually be Europeans.

Among other things, the names are a pretty good indication of this.

Most of the names are changed when they make it to the west. Lucina's name is the less-western-sounding Rukina in Japan, for example.
 
Is thread now about cultural and racial representation in Nintendo games in general? I really liked Delfino Island with the Piantas and the Nokis in Mario Sunshine. They mimic some kind of Hawaiian/Filipino/island culture and I thought it really brought another side to the mushroom kingdom.
 
ha. I don't know how satire works. ha. haha. It's always the same with you people. Let me guess. Your next phrase will be "Don't take it so seriously", right? Oh! Or how about "You obviously don't truly understand" or "You're bringing semantics into it"? Were those the next words you were going to use?

I can't stand your attitude. That "holier than thou" persona that pops up when one pretends the other is ignorant in order to feel superior. "You clearly don't understand satire", I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN YOU IF YOU CALL THAT UNFUNNY, NON-IRONIC, AND NON-EXAGGERATED PIECE OF CRAP YOU CALL A POST! I don't understand it? Grab a fucking dictionary and read it!

And even if I did indulge in your little peacocking and said that that post WAS satire, it's a weak satire at best. If your point was to point out the lack of black characters in NIntendo (because I'm now 99% sure that you initially made this out to be a joke post, then pretending you had a point later on to save yourself some grace), then having a satire where you find black colored non-humans side characters is nonsensical BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE BLACK HUMAN SIDE-CHARACTERS THAN BLACK NON-HUMAN SIDE CHARACTERS. But no, you went for a choice that could cause the most outrage.

I'll say it again. You do not want a conversation. You want people to be mad so you feel superior. Congratulations, you have one. It is people like you that have help create the myth that "SJW wish to take our games away". It is people like you that have helped the most VILE degenerates come out of the woodwork to express their hatred freely and proudly. It is people like you that have made the video game community the most toxic community all because you wanted a reaction. You do not wish to talk about these topics because actually discussing them wouldn't be fun. You wish to anger. You wish to escalate. You refuse to see reason and see insults as a game. You want to actually discuss problems within the industry? At the very least, read about why these things happens. Don't act like a frat boy philosopher and think you're Socrates.

I never said anything about taking games away and 'VILE degenerates' come out of the woodwork on every topic and especially those involving issues of race / gender / sexuality. Also caps really help get your opinion across on this.
 
I never said anything about taking games away and 'VILE degenerates' come out of the woodwork on every topic and especially those involving issues of race / gender / sexuality. Also caps really help get your opinion across on this.

Yeah, and you aren't helping. There is no point to this thread other than wanting to circle-jerk people who actually want to discuss this topic. But hey, I guess that would require thinking.
 
Little Mac is Italian.

Wikipedia said:
He was portrayed by Paulie Malignaggi in the commercial for Punch-Out!! on Wii. In an interview, he commented that he was asked to play a "young Italian-American guy, good looking with a cocky attitude and a heavy New York accent".[22]

Probably related to Mario!
 
Sigh...Nintendo's less appealing defense force is out.

You know you look kinda sad behaving like that? Attacking as soon as someone is critical about Nintendo, saying it's crap and doesn't promote discussion but can't stand up to your own words.

And those defending it with "Japan"..yeah hide behind that. From my stand point it just seems as you're using that as an excuse while dreaming about a better time, a time when spades like me worked outside and Mammy was happy.


The ones we thought where good coloured characters turned out to be tanned(Fire Emblem Awakening Flavia and Basilio, Path of Radiance Devdan is actually quiet nice) or they used the most stupid stereotypes. Pokemons Lenora...sigh. I can live with most trainers but "mammy"...fuck that destroyed most of the goodwill the Pokemon company had gained on the subject.
Punchout is a mix of hit and misses.

But hey if it really offends people that some of us are tired about not being represented we can always ask Nintendo to just go back to Mario and Luigi. All those new characters being made in their new games since Mario? Take them out, no need to progress at all. No need for another woman than Peach. Heck don't make make any new games. Just concentrate on making 2D and I Guess 3D Mario as tight as possible. Don't ever make anything else than Mario because we don't want you to do anything new. It might actually cause us harm.

And honestly, I laughed at that dude who wrote about this issue when Kart released. It actually took 30 years for people to notice? I'm not laughing anymore. It's fucking pathetic that Iwata has to remind devs that not all people in the world is non POC. It's fucking pathetic when people defend the status quo. It's fucking pathetic that the world's largest video game company can't get their dammed thumbs out of their ass and realise that to all their humanoid characters it actually exists a possibility that one may be black and not just a tanned white human disguised as a animal hybrid.

And lastly, this is not am attack, I'm not in my angry black man stereotypical mode. I'm just tired so dammed tired.

Yeah, and you aren't helping. There is no point to this thread other than wanting to circle-jerk people who actually want to discuss this topic. But hey, I guess that would require thinking.

Whose stopping you?
 
Is there a consensus on Goomba? He's one of my favourites and I'm rather upset at Nintendo for not including him as a playable character in MK8.
 
Is there a consensus on Goomba? He's one of my favourites and I'm rather upset at Nintendo for not including him as a playable character in MK8.

He didn't get any Source Awards last year, so he got dropped from the label

...are we now at the point of calling any character colored brown of black a black character
 
Sigh...Nintendo's less appealing defense force is out.

You know you look kinda sad behaving like that? Attacking as soon as someone is critical about Nintendo, saying it's crap and doesn't promote discussion but can't stand up to your own words.

And those defending it with "Japan"..yeah hide behind that. From my stand point it just seems as you're using that as an excuse while dreaming about a better time, a time when spades like me worked outside and Mammy was happy.


The ones we thought where colored turned out to be tanned(Fire Emblem Awakening) or they used the most stupid stereotypes :/

But hey if it really offends people that some of us are tired about not being represented we can always ask Nintendo to just go back to Mario and Luigi. All those new characters being made in their new games since Mario? Take them out, no need to progress at all. No need for another woman than Peach. Heck don't make make any new games. Just concentrate on making 2D and I Guess 3D Mario as tight as possible. Don't ever make anything else than Mario because we don't want you to do anything new. It might actually cause us harm.

And honestly, I laughed at that dude who wrote about this issue when Kart released. It actually took 30 years for people to notice? I'm not laughing anymore. It's fucking pathetic that Iwata has to remind devs that not all people in the world is non POC. It's fucking pathetic when people defend the status quo. It's fucking pathetic that the world's largest video game company can't get their dammed thumbs out of their ass and realise that to all their humanoid characters it actually exists a possibility that one may be black and not just a tanned white human disguised as a animal hybrid.

And lastly, this is not am attack, I'm not in my angry black man stereotypical mode. I'm just tired so dammed tired.



Whose stopping you?

Yes, I am just butthurt because he insulted the sacred cow Nintendo. That is exactly that. Except I brought up multiple points he forgot to mention, such as Nintendo whitewashing Daisy to the shocking lack of main Black characters to the fact that black characters are usually tan instead of actually black to the general facts that anyone with dark skin gets sidelined at best. I sure think Nintendo can do no wrong!

Clearly I don't think about race and sex representation in gaming if I could bring that all up (and have brought up) within a few seconds. Clearly I think Nintendo is perfect if I am listing all these complaints on just ONE topic. I clearly am offended if people are represented properly if I'm saying that the attitude of the OP is nothing but a concern troll attempt to turn people away from the actual people who want to be represented in gaming.

Yet he never address any points (most of which actually agrees with his point that he has hidden in that abomination of a post) I make. Instead dismisses them (even though they agree with what he's saying) and tries to make me a "bad guy" by saying to not bring up other problems. Yeah, I'm somehow a bloody defense force and I'm somehow not thinking. Great job.

EDIT: Again with the words "pathetic". I can't even tell if you actually want a discussion. You seem to set me up as a non-thinking Nintendo Defense Drone already. It surely does wonders for your concern trolling.
 
He didn't get any Source Awards last year, so he got dropped from the label

...are we now at the point of calling any character colored brown of black a black character

Probably? That's the folly of trying to tie non-human things to human race. While some definitely can (Russian Penguins of Paper Mario), not every one of these creatures fit a racial depiction. One should stay within the realm of humans (or nearly human) for such examples.

For dark-skin (I really can't call it black for the most part) characters from Nintendo, we have the following games:

* Pokemon
* Fire Emblem
* Advanced Wars (one of the few cases of an actual black character)
* Metroid (Ditto)
* Batallion Wars (Ditto)
* Mario (Il Piasmo)
* Zelda
* Punch-Out

These are the ones I can think about at the top of my head. However, many of these characters are merely side characters with not that much importance. It certainly would be nice if there was more representation of color among the main cast line.
 
Probably? That's the folly of trying to tie non-human things to human race. While some definitely can (Russian Penguins of Paper Mario), not every one of these creatures fit a racial depiction. One should stay within the realm of humans (or nearly human) for such examples.

For dark-skin (I really can't call it black for the most part) characters from Nintendo, we have the following games:

* Pokemon
* Fire Emblem
* Advanced Wars (one of the few cases of an actual black character)
* Metroid (Ditto)
* Batallion Wars (Ditto)
* Mario (Il Piasmo)
* Zelda
* Punch-Out

These are the ones I can think about at the top of my head. However, many of these characters are merely side characters with not that much importance. It certainly would be nice if there was more representation of color among the main cast line.

Your missing the point that the thread was supposed to be about human characters, not animals that are colored black or that have "black" characteristics

or you're being obtuse for enjoyment
 
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I was blown away when I found out that Reggie was actually Haitian-American.
 
Your missing the point that the thread was supposed to be about human characters, not animals that are colored black or that have "black" characteristics

or you're being obtuse for enjoyment

...those were all examples of humans characters. What the hell are you talking about?

EDIT: You need me to be specific?

Pokemon - Various Gym Leaders
Fire Emblem - Basilo and Flavia
Advanced Wars - The Doctor-Mayor
Metroid - Remember Me guy
Batalion Wars - One of the commanders
Mario - Il Pianistmo (he's wearing a mask and as far as I can tell, he's humanish)
Zelda - Twilight Princess character (can't remember. I'm not talking about Midna)
Punch-Out - Mr. Sandman

None of these characters are non-human. How am I being obtuse again?
 
Sigh...Nintendo's less appealing defense force is out.

You know you look kinda sad behaving like that? Attacking as soon as someone is critical about Nintendo, saying it's crap and doesn't promote discussion but can't stand up to your own words.

And those defending it with "Japan"..yeah hide behind that. From my stand point it just seems as you're using that as an excuse while dreaming about a better time, a time when spades like me worked outside and Mammy was happy.


The ones we thought where good coloured characters turned out to be tanned(Fire Emblem Awakening Flavia and Basilio, Path of Radiance Devdan is actually quiet nice) or they used the most stupid stereotypes. Pokemons Lenora...sigh. I can live with most trainers but "mammy"...fuck that destroyed most of the goodwill the Pokemon company had gained on the subject.
Punchout is a mix of hit and misses.

But hey if it really offends people that some of us are tired about not being represented we can always ask Nintendo to just go back to Mario and Luigi. All those new characters being made in their new games since Mario? Take them out, no need to progress at all. No need for another woman than Peach. Heck don't make make any new games. Just concentrate on making 2D and I Guess 3D Mario as tight as possible. Don't ever make anything else than Mario because we don't want you to do anything new. It might actually cause us harm.

And honestly, I laughed at that dude who wrote about this issue when Kart released. It actually took 30 years for people to notice? I'm not laughing anymore. It's fucking pathetic that Iwata has to remind devs that not all people in the world is non POC. It's fucking pathetic when people defend the status quo. It's fucking pathetic that the world's largest video game company can't get their dammed thumbs out of their ass and realise that to all their humanoid characters it actually exists a possibility that one may be black and not just a tanned white human disguised as a animal hybrid.

And lastly, this is not am attack, I'm not in my angry black man stereotypical mode. I'm just tired so dammed tired.



Whose stopping you?
Smh this post is so odd..its not an attack but a pointless rant. The OP had made discussion that is literally clowning skin color to get this type of reaction.
 
Anyway, your other posts show a basic lack of comprehension, so enjoy the rest of your evening

I was responding to your question asking why people were looking into non-human characters for race justification. If I wasn't clear, I apologize. What I meant in that quote was to say that people who were looking to find race in non-human characters was folly and shouldn't be done. In other words, I was agreeing with you then preceded to show examples of human black characters.
 
Anyway, your other posts show a basic lack of comprehension, so enjoy the rest of your evening

No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?
 
Yes, I am just butthurt because he insulted the sacred cow Nintendo. That is exactly that. Except I brought up multiple points he forgot to mention, such as Nintendo whitewashing Daisy to the shocking lack of main Black characters to the fact that black characters are usually tan instead of actually black to the general facts that anyone with dark skin gets sidelined at best. I sure think Nintendo can do no wrong!

Clearly I don't think about race and sex representation in gaming if I could bring that all up (and have brought up) within a few seconds. Clearly I think Nintendo is perfect if I am listing all these complaints on just ONE topic. I clearly am offended if people are represented properly if I'm saying that the attitude of the OP is nothing but a concern troll attempt to turn people away from the actual people who want to be represented in gaming.

Yet he never address any points (most of which actually agrees with his point that he has hidden in that abomination of a post) I make. Instead dismisses them (even though they agree with what he's saying) and tries to make me a "bad guy" by saying to not bring up other problems. Yeah, I'm somehow a bloody defense force and I'm somehow not thinking. Great job.

EDIT: Again with the words "pathetic". I can't even tell if you actually want a discussion. You seem to set me up as a non-thinking Nintendo Defense Drone already. It surely does wonders for your concern trolling.

First let me address the last part: yes and no, you get revved up to 120 way to fast and it just comes of as, in your own words "Drone". You can't have a discussion with someone who is yelling. You either walk away, or treat them as a child. If all you are doing is propagating the "Drone" surface why should anyone actually care? Last time you revved up way to much and I decided just to ignore it even though you had some points made. The topic is about, lets be honest here, the most successful Japanese video game company. Those that have the most clout with kids. The diversity, racial, in their games are important.
Instead you try and make the OP as tight as possible, as you want it to look. The thread is there for that. you could have chosen to talk about it, discuss your points. Instead you came in as an attacker to the OP. No discussion.

But as to the pathetic part? It has no correlation to anyone since the bump. I just think it's pathetic when people drive by and go "ooh it doesn't matter to me so no one else should care". Those can for all I care go choke on a giant pogo stick. See it as me trying to say to those that may drop in again that they can choke on said pogo stick.

Now for the rest, see how many people just don't care about anything? Or are just oblivious? referring to those that just remember last years games and post Flavia and Basilio in honesty. Devdan is the only black character in a Fire Emblem game as I can remember but perhaps the people posting this has never played anything pre Awakening.

But really does it matter if Jed isn't the most brilliant wordsmith? There is a forum to discuss it, there is a topic. How many people actually came in here and tried to have a discussion to instead just get upset that some fucking jackass posted Donkey Kong? There is always a platform to discuss. Perhaps Jed meant this as sarcasm, perhaps it was a bait thread, some nuked casualties if I remember right. I know that to me it is a sad state of affairs and yes I prefer Tuesdays or any other day to this thread if I'm honest. Since the jackasses yelling racial slurs at me at least cares. Nintendo doesn't, many here don't but that jackass does.

And for the celebratory part of Nintendo's characters and it not being able to introduce new characters....don't you see the problem right there? Nintendo doesn't make any black/colored/(sorry not sure which lingo to use as apparently I was racist last time I a black man called myself black) memorable characters, at least not any they think are worthy to have any kind of significance in their Bread and Butter.

Smh this post is so odd..its not an attack but a pointless rant. The OP had made discussion that is literally clowning skin color to get this type of reaction.

Sarcasm, bait, whatever it could have worked if people wanted to discuss or could think for a second but when you get Donkey Kong posts you, at least I, just get pissed.

Note: I'm not calling anyone a racist or a fucking idiot, those people got nuked way back.

OffTopic: oh and one more thing, Scourge Re Ye Wig!

EDIT: For someone so smart you have to realise it just comes off as a tantrum from a kid now.
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?

The fuck. What's going on here
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?



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No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?

Holy shit is all I think of after reading this.

Just.... holy shit.
 
First let me address the last part: yes and no, you get revved up to 120 way to fast and it just comes of as, in your own words "Drone". You can't have a discussion with someone who is yelling. You either walk away, or treat them as a child. If all you are doing is propagating the "Drone" surface why should anyone actually care? Last time you revved up way to much and I decided just to ignore it even though you had some points made. The topic is about, lets be honest here, the most successful Japanese video game company. Those that have the most clout with kids. The diversity, racial, in their games are important.
Instead you try and make the OP as tight as possible, as you want it to look. The thread is there for that. you could have chosen to talk about it, discuss your points. Instead you came in as an attacker to the OP. No discussion.

But as to the pathetic part? It has no correlation to anyone since the bump. I just think it's pathetic when people drive by and go "ooh it doesn't matter to me so no one else should care". Those can for all I care go choke on a giant pogo stick. See it as me trying to say to those that may drop in again that they can choke on said pogo stick.

Now for the rest, see how many people just don't care about anything? Or are just oblivious? referring to those that just remember last years games and post Flavia and Basilio in honesty. Devdan is the only black character in a Fire Emblem game as I can remember but perhaps the people posting this has never played anything pre Awakening.

But really does it matter if Jed isn't the most brilliant wordsmith? There is a forum to discuss it, there is a topic. How many people actually came in here and tried to have a discussion to instead just get upset that some fucking jackass posted Donkey Kong? There is always a platform to discuss. Perhaps Jed meant this as sarcasm, perhaps it was a bait thread, some nuked casualties if I remember right. I know that to me it is a sad state of affairs and yes I prefer Tuesdays or any other day to this thread if I'm honest. Since the jackasses yelling racial slurs at me at least cares. Nintendo doesn't, many here don't but that jackass does.

And for the celebratory part of Nintendo's characters and it not being able to introduce new characters....don't you see the problem right there? Nintendo doesn't make any black/colored/(sorry not sure which lingo to use as apparently I was racist last time I a black man called myself black) memorable characters, at least not any they think are worthy to have any kind of significance in their Bread and Butter.



Sarcasm, bait, whatever it could have worked if people wanted to discuss or could think for a second but when you get Donkey Kong posts you, at least I, just get pissed.

Note: I'm not calling anyone a racist or a fucking idiot, those people got nuked way back.

OffTopic: oh and one more thing, Scourge Re Ye Wig!

EDIT: For someone so smart you have to realise it just comes off as a tantrum from a kid now.

Fine, that was a tantrum. People who insult my intelligence has been always been a weak spot with me and lately I have been insulted because of the most idiotic of reasons (mostly relating to me being a feminist) so I snapped. It was childish.

My problem with the OP is that it has failed at both being a satire and trying to start a discussion. It would be like me complaining that Atlus cannot make good female character without sexualizing them then posting a Catherine picture as proof (Note: I don't actually believe this). Regardless of the fact that there is a discussion here, that OP only serves to anger one side to make the other seem right.

Fine, I misunderstood what you meant by pathetic. I apologize.

No, I do think it is problematic that there is a lack of non-white/Asian main characters in Nintendo games. I had said initially that Smash was simply a symptom of the problem and not the place for the solution. I would be so happy if Nintendo decided to make a video game starring an actual black person (hell, at this point I'd be happy if they were tanned).
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?
Are you really a multi-millionaire?
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?

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No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?


Time to ly down, son
 
Fine, that was a tantrum. People who insult my intelligence has been always been a weak spot with me and lately I have been insulted because of the most idiotic of reasons (mostly relating to me being a feminist) so I snapped. It was childish.

My problem with the OP is that it has failed at both being a satire and trying to start a discussion. It would be like me complaining that Atlus cannot make good female character without sexualizing them then posting a Catherine picture as proof (Note: I don't actually believe this). Regardless of the fact that there is a discussion here, that OP only serves to anger one side to make the other seem right.

Fine, I misunderstood what you meant by pathetic. I apologize.

No, I do think it is problematic that there is a lack of non-white/Asian main characters in Nintendo games. I had said initially that Smash was simply a symptom of the problem and not the place for the solution. I would be so happy if Nintendo decided to make a video game starring an actual black person (hell, at this point I'd be happy if they were tanned).

No need to apologize, I'm not all here atm so it can be on me, not being clear that is.

And yes to the Smash situation, I guess we're kinda on either edge here. Of course it would be preferable if, lets say they introduce a character of colour with some story to their game instead of just shoehorning one in without any for of Nintendo Presentation. Heck I would be so glad if Smash had a secret character that turned out to be coloured. That is presented in a good way instead of just shoehorned in. Heck, even coloured person from SPACE is good enough for me.....yes I did not really like that "backstory" :)

Fake Edit: But I like the character.
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?

Chill, homie.
 
I always considered Mac to be a white dude w/black hair.

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Considering the circus of stereotypes (and skin colors) in Punch-Out, they could have made him look Hispanic if that was their setting for him, but I don't think it was.

He's portrayed by Paul Malignaggi, an Italian American boxer, in the Punch Out Wii commercials if that means anything.
 
I'm largely stressed. I've been having a series of bad days. I have a huge pet peeve that is guaranteed to make me explode. So I did. That post is childish and idiotic. I apologize for that behavior. Fell free to laugh at it.

Not that I'm trying to meddle in your life, but what you said suggests to me that you have some issues in your life you'd be better off talking to someone about. I would recommend looking into that. If GAF (or online communities more broadly) is the last thing left that you feel preserves your sanity, then yeah, I would definitely suggest changing that.
 
He didn't get any Source Awards last year, so he got dropped from the label

...are we now at the point of calling any character colored brown of black a black character
The heck? Calm down, mate. I think it's fine that the OP creted a thread about black Nintendo characters, but I'm sure it's fine to dicuss any characters that aren't clearly caucasion.
 
I'm largely stressed. I've been having a series of bad days. I have a huge pet peeve that is guaranteed to make me explode. So I did. That post is childish and idiotic. I apologize for that behavior. Fell free to laugh at it.
Dude you are clearly having a rough time for whatever reason and i really hope having that rant made you feel better.

On the topic at hand, no there are no black characters in the lead role of any Nintendo game, but this is not an agenda with people out to get you, there is no white poqer movement in place to crush the hopes of all black people that 1 day Link will not be a white kid. I think the lack of a black main character is more out of ignorance than racism. Miyamoto and Iwata and co just go with what fits and for the most part its a fairy tale or animals in danger (metroid apart).

Most popular fairy tales were written in Europe before there was really any other races other than white folks (Grimm brothers, Aesops fables, Hans Christian Anderson) so the stereotype Princess fairytale is with white people. This is why the Disney question is annoying as well, because Disney is obviously a company that tries to be inclusive in its main character selection process (see Aladdin, Princess and the Frog, Mulan) If Nintendo are basing stories and characters on traditional fairy tales, then subconsciously they are more likely to make the mains white. So unless Nintendo starts some kind of Affirmative Action campaign i dont expect this to change.

Feel better dude.
 
No. You don't get to do this. You don't get to run away. Why do I show a basic lack of comprehension? Why? WHY? Do you think I'm dumb? Or you like all those idiots at school that pretending was I was idiotic despite me being the most exemplary student? I'm part of Mensa. I got perfects on my SAT and ACT. I managed to become a multi-millionaire before the age of fucking 21! HOW AM I NOT SMART! WHAT QUALIFIES AS SMART IN THIS INSANE UNIVERSE! WHY CAN I NEVER ACHIEVE IT! WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO EXIST SOLELY TO LET ME KNOW HOW IDIOTIC I AM! WHAT MUST I DO TO PLEASE YOU STUPID MASTERS!

I have spent my entire life to prove my genius. I have spent every instance to master knowledge. Yet at every turn, every person thinks I'm dumb. Because I play video games. Or because I don't go to church. Or because I think Evolution trumps Creationism. And yet here, in the one threshold I have left to preserve my fucking sanity. There are people everywhere who seem determined to make me idiotic. WHY?

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The heck? Calm down, mate. I think it's fine that the OP creted a thread about black Nintendo characters, but I'm sure it's fine to dicuss any characters that aren't clearly caucasion.

Goombas are angry mushrooms with legs, mate

The point that a lot of people are either missing or going out of their way to miss is that the OP included the non-human characters as a commentary on the sorry state of inclusiveness, i.e. people start seeing dinosaurs and shit as "black" because they don't have actual human representatives.
 
KillerIsJed
Always looking for controversy where there is none
(Yesterday, 11:57 PM)

Pretty sure all these topics of yours are to get a tag or something. Always topics with manufactured outrage or concern trolling.

Yeah, this. I remember one time it backfired, and he took to Twitter to complain about us lmao.
 
I always thought the Gerudo were based on Arabs? Don't know why so many are trying to claim them as African/black?

They are based on Arabs. They had the fucking crescent as their symbol before Nintendo changed it (due to religious complaints).

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There's no way this looks African and not Islamic.
 
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