BrokenEchelon
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Well I guess the silver lining is that if the 980 is a small improvement over the 780, it'll still drop the price of the 780? Right?
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That depends on how long it takes before TSMC are ready with 16nm probably. The 780Ti most likely happened to extend the life of Kepler while waiting for 20nm. But that just didn't happen fast enough so they had to stick with 28 and now it looks like they are going with 16nm instead for the next set of cards.
It would make more sense to release a new series then, instead of only using the GM200 for Titan 2 and 980Ti. Just like they didn't use the 780 as a 680Ti card. They can't waste the high-end Maxwell cards on a 980Ti because then they got nothing for the next generation of cards that would be a step up from that. Pascal is 2016 right now, they need the GM200 for a new series in 2015.
This is all speculation, but it seems to make most sense with how they are doing the releases now.
In all likelihood yes.
TC McQueen
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Here's a nice shot of the 980's display connectors:
2002whitegt
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I have read the 980 will use anywhere between 170w to 180w, I hope it's at 170w so I can replace the GTX 670 in my x51 for it.
If not I hope the 970 is a nice upgrade. Maybe the next generation after the 900 series will use the smaller dies and be able to increase power and lower draw power.
A new Titan could take the flagship mantle instead of a 980Ti. There was no 680Ti, don't forget.
There's various ways they could go about this.
Are these HDMI 2.0? If so, I'll SLI and get myself a nice 4k TV to game on.
No info on that yet, but there's probably a good chance it is.
plagiarize
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Rumoured to be, but not confirmed yet.
TDP really looks nice.
Maybe its not a really big jump in Performance but the jump for Performance per Watt is pretty damn high. Something like 70-90% increase in Performance per Watt for 970 compared to 770 for example. (if the leaks are true)
Sounds pretty consistent with the other rumors.
plagiarize
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yeah. it's what has me pretty convinced to dive in with the 980. If I'm going to SLI, then you know what, these things running a little quieter and using less power while still being the best single chipset gaming card right now... that's a big deal to me. Even if they won't be the best single chipset card for long.
oh it seems they are using the same Titan/770/780 blower cooler again (which is ok since it's pretty good)
I really don't want to upgrade now (have sc780) but I'm weak. I might jump in if they make a super duper 980ti but I really should wait for the next series.
Stick with the 780 then. This will be a minor performance improvement, while the next generation should be quite the leap.
I have a 560 tis, so am kind of backed into a corner on this one. My setup actually runs current-gen games at 1080p/60 just fine, so I could make it work...but I don't want to.
Dictator93
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I just thought of something horrible that Nvidia might do.
Release the full Maxwell @ 20 nm with a limited taping (since they do not have full production 20nm for Nvidia anyway) while the GM204 cards are still on the market. Market it as the next Titan (duh) and charge $1k or more for it.
Thereby keeping the price/performance to be not out of wack (since the midline cards prices will be @ about $400 probably, just to fuck us), but by jacking up the price of high end even further.
Release the full Maxwell @ 20 nm with a limited taping (since they do not have full production 20nm for Nvidia anyway) while the GM204 cards are still on the market. Market it as the next Titan (duh) and charge $1k or more for it.
Thereby keeping the price/performance to be not out of wack (since the midline cards prices will be @ about $400 probably, just to fuck us), but by jacking up the price of high end even further.
Don't give them ideas. :/
That's exactly what they did the last time out(minus the die shrink part) and I'm surprised you've only just now thought of this.
I don't think we'll see a $1,000+ card, though. Especially if AMD are actually reducing the 295x2 to a similar price.
If they do make a Titan II, I fully expect it to be 20nm, though. A 28nm Titan II makes little sense given the likely short lifetime of 20nm. Just depends on how quickly they do it. I'd say sometime late Winter/early Spring 2015 would be ideal. And then see what AMD have up their sleeve.
My 2nd monitor connection is going to look like the frankenstein monster if those are on the 970 as well
fucking VGA :lol
Yeah, same for me. :lol
The biggest problem is the vram, imho, if my 570 had 2GB I could probably keep it for another year.
Damerman
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Any Impressions From anyone who switched from AMD to Nvidea? I just want to know because what makes me most skeptical about switching over is the constant updating of drivers. Sometimes they work, sometimes you have to revert back to an older version... i just think that this is too intrusive... so if anyone can confirm that its not that much more a hassle to owning an AMD card, that would be cool.
brain_stew
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The "high end" Maxwell chip will absolutely be a $1000 Titan card when it eventually releases. Blame all the consumers that lapped up the original Titan.
$1000 is the new norm for high end Nvidia cards.
I thoght that was supposed to when Nvidia are officially announcing the range.
16nm that early is very optimistic. Especially since GPU manufacturers are likely only going to be 2nd priority on their availability. I think we'll see 16nm with Pascal in 2016.
brotkasten
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Did the Titan really sell that well? Are here any sales numbers? That seems so insane to me.
fluffydelusions
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So uh what is the return policy on cards from amazon. I just brought a 770 today. I knew these were coming but I don't have a pc so needed one.
Did it already ship? I'd talk to their customer service. They've always been really helpful for me.
fluffydelusions
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Yes. They said they couldn't change the order
Don't know how it sold, but I think people are being cynical assuming they'll put out another $1,000 card. Things aren't always so predictable in the GPU market. There's been fluctuations before.
Nvidia came out with the 8800 Ultra for over $800, but subsequent flagship cards did not cost as much.
Its possible, but I think AMD are a legitimate threat at the moment and Nvidia would risk getting severely undercut within just a few months(assuming this doesn't come out for a few months itself). I'm expecting a $700-800 top of the line model at most.
TheNamelessOne
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Hmmm, I wonder if I should go for a 980 or get another 770 in SLI when I upgrade my computer...
If it is unopened I don't see why there would be any problems returning it. You might just have to pay for the shipping unless they offer to take care of that too.
Is it a 2 or 4GB 770? If 2, then don't.
TheNamelessOne
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2GB. I guess it can't use 2+2GB for 4GB total in SLI?
Nope, it mirrors the RAM on both cards. So you only have access to 2.
It sold well because of a combination of enthusiasts and prosumers. It was essentially a budget Tesla card that was *almost* as good.
SneakyStephan
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equal blame will rest on anyone willing to pay 500 bucks for a midrange 980
If the 980 bombs because consumers value it for what it is then prices will drop
Has there been a 980 Ti announcement?I have e 4GB 770 but I'm still going to replace that with a 980Ti
As per my post above, a big reason why the Titan sold so well is that it was a "budget" workstation Tesla card. Even when they announced the Titan-Z, they were clearly marketing it towards that prosumer crowd.
I have e 4GB 770 but I'm still going to replace that with a 980Ti
Well the 680 *cough* 770 is pretty "old" by now, so that upgrade seems logical. Whether they decide to release it as 980Ti (which I doubt) or the high-end of the next series is what I'm interested in knowing now.
I will be upgrading from my 2GB 680 to a 980 as soon as I can get my hands on with with an aftermarket cooler.
No.
And if there is no 980Ti?I have e 4GB 770 but I'm still going to replace that with a 980Ti
I know. I was attempting a bit of Plato/Socrates dialogue there.
mr stroke
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I am too weak too, but I need more power to drive a dell 4k and a Asus Rog even if it's a minor upgrade.
I sold my 2 780's for $800, so if you are ok with not having a GPU for a couple weeks you can currently get almost full value for your 780
Plus you will get more money for your 980 once you upgrade to the GTX1080's
Dictator93
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But the 8800 GTX was more reasonably priced ($599 to 650) and could overclock to the levels of the Ultra (they had the same graphics core). Nvidia is now gating better silicon with those prices.
Then I'm going to buy a 780Ti SC
Dictator93
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Then I'm going to buy a 780Ti SC
What could end up happening technically is that the 780 Ti never goes down in price on most markets due to weirdness. It happened with the 280 and 285 for some reason. So just be weary (as always).
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