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googleplex said:
I think Marvel(Disney) knows there are a lot more people particularly women, that are interested in the MU. And they are in desperate need of good female characters. I think Spider-Gwen is sticking around and Jessica Drew is going to die or retire. No one cares about Jessica anyway.
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I care about Jessica, but they wont kill her right before her Ongoing is starting...


ViewtifulJC said:
Anna Marie won't turn into a villain. That's gonna be Spider-Gwen

Anna Marie will be killed off, alongside SpOck
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Killing Spock is not a good idea, he has to return to the past again or Peter would be without a body ;)
 
GAMEPROFF said:
I care about Jessica, but they wont kill her right before her Ongoing is starting...



Killing Spock is not a good idea, he has to return to the past again or Peter would be without a body ;)
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I'm not sure I'd expect that, Spock gave no indications that he knew this shit was coming after he came back. He's definitely the kind of guy that would start planning for it immediately given the chance. Maybe this whole thing results in an altered timeline or something and he goes back to the future with Anna Maria.

On another note, I totally want Spider-Gwen to stick around. Peter needs to beef up his supporting cast again and she's a lot better than Silk. Kill off Silk and give us Spider-Gwen please.

Dalek said:
Dude. Avengers! Holy shit. What.
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I know right? What the hell
are Reed and Tony up too? I imagine they're looking for a way to fix everything while the current Illuminati try and contain the Cabal.
 
Nice to see Avengers getting love in here this week, that was a really good issue. Thought it was funny to see both this and Multiversity talking about the Bleed and multiversal collapse - are Morrison and Hickman doing a secret crossover here?? Especially since Multiversity #1 was pretty much a remix of what Hickman's been doing in New Avengers (I know they were probably writing at the same time but still...). In this week's Multiversity I was almost expecting them to get their heads kicked in by the Illuminati.

Multiversity was EXCELLENT as well - I didn't realise these issues would be so thick, that makes me a lot happier. Are we going to get this many Quitely pages too?? (shut it haters) Earlier in the day I had a big rant about Future's End to my (indulgent/confused/bored) wife and so reading Multiversity was very satisfying in that it did a lot of the tricks FE is trying to pull off, but in significantly less time and with much more verve, style and success. It was highly enjoyable.

I'm still finding Future's End really upsetting for a whole variety of reasons that I've probably gone into before and will again, I'm sure. It's just shit though, isn't it? Like, some really boring shitty comics coming out of it. A dearth of imagination and fun. While Marvel is kicking ass and blowing minds all over the shop, DC has picked their rut and they are going to dig it even deeper.

And the gimmick month - it's one thing to use it as a try-out month (to say nothing of the idea that it's interrupting runs by creators we're actually interested in), but it seems the level of art especially is really not great. So we have a collection of rather shallow one shots with mediocre art (Superman WW was hilarious, felt like a 90s Bogdanove comic). So someone tell me, what is the fucking point in this? Who is it pleasing?

Someone please defend Future's End to me. Vigorously. Without admitting that it's not good but you like it anyway.
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
Nice to see Avengers getting love in here this week, that was a really good issue. Thought it was funny to see both this and Multiversity talking about the Bleed and multiversal collapse - are Morrison and Hickman doing a secret crossover here?? Especially since Multiversity #1 was pretty much a remix of what Hickman's been doing in New Avengers (I know they were probably writing at the same time but still...). In this week's Multiversity I was almost expecting them to get their heads kicked in by the Illuminati.

Multiversity was EXCELLENT as well - I didn't realise these issues would be so thick, that makes me a lot happier. Are we going to get this many Quitely pages too?? (shut it haters) Earlier in the day I had a big rant about Future's End to my (indulgent/confused/bored) wife and so reading Multiversity was very satisfying in that it did a lot of the tricks FE is trying to pull off, but in significantly less time and with much more verve, style and success. It was highly enjoyable.

I'm still finding Future's End really upsetting for a whole variety of reasons that I've probably gone into before and will again, I'm sure. It's just shit though, isn't it? Like, some really boring shitty comics coming out of it. A dearth of imagination and fun. While Marvel is kicking ass and blowing minds all over the shop, DC has picked their rut and they are going to dig it even deeper.

And the gimmick month - it's one thing to use it as a try-out month (to say nothing of the idea that it's interrupting runs by creators we're actually interested in), but it seems the level of art especially is really not great. So we have a collection of rather shallow one shots with mediocre art (Superman WW was hilarious, felt like a 90s Bogdanove comic). So someone tell me, what is the fucking point in this? Who is it pleasing?

Someone please defend Future's End to me. Vigorously. Without admitting that it's not good but you like it anyway.
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I can't speak on the weekly book because I dropped it after 4 issues, or even 99% of gimmick month for that matter, but the one gimmick month book I did buy actually had a point and was a good read. I picked up Pandora this week as I enjoyed the series and, wanted to see how it wrapped up. It had zero ties to anything on the weekly or anything else going on in gimmick month, and probably was only set 5 years later to fit the editorial mandate.

Instead Fawkes finally got to tell his story (albeit a super condensed version) of who the seven sins actually were and Pandora's role in the destruction of the old DCU and creation of the N52verse. I was bummed when the book was announced as canceled because I didn't think Fawkes would get to address it. After talking to him on Twitter about it yesterday, he told me that more or less that was what he had originally planned but obviously had to cut content to fit what was a multi issue arc into 20 pages.

So for me, gimmick month was a rousing success and is batting 1.000!
 
So for those more in the know, how did Wolverine lose his healing factor? Why did they copy that from a bad movie? Is there a weird mechanical shrimp on his heart?
 
tim1138 said:
Instead Fawkes finally got to tell his story (albeit a super condensed version) of who the seven sins actually were and Pandora's role in the destruction of the old DCU and creation of the N52verse. I was bummed when the book was announced as canceled because I didn't think Fawkes would get to address it. After talking to him on Twitter about it yesterday, he told me that more or less that was what he had originally planned but obviously had to cut content to fit what was a multi issue arc into 20 pages.
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Really? They finally explained that? Is it good? If I hadn't read any of the rest of the series would the issue stand up as an explanation on it's own, because I'd actually quite like to know why it was Pandora of all people.
 
Mindwipe said:
Really? They finally explained that? Is it good? If I hadn't read any of the rest of the series would the issue stand up as an explanation on it's own, because I'd actually quite like to know why it was Pandora of all people.
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There was a significant plot point that came out of the Forever Evil Blight storyline, but I'm sure you could figure out what's going on ok. I liked it, but I'm also about the only person who was buying and enjoying the series, so I have no idea if you'd like it or not.
 
tim1138 said:
There was a significant plot point that came out of the Forever Evil Blight storyline, but I'm sure you could figure out what's going on ok. I liked it, but I'm also about the only person who was buying and enjoying the series, so I have no idea if you'd like it or not.
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Might wait and see if they trade the two up.

You'd have thought they'd have pushed that more, given Pandora's appearances in every New-52 book at the start.
 
Mindwipe said:
Might wait and see if they trade the two up.

You'd have thought they'd have pushed that more, given Pandora's appearances in every New-52 book at the start.
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The Blight tpb comes out at the end of the month and the second and final Pandora tpb drops in November.
It's pretty clear that whatever DC's initial plans were for Pandora fell by the way side by the time they got around to getting her book out last year.
 
just read motmte #33

Chromedome and Rewind getting together was so touching.

I have to give Roberts credit. I care more about the relationship between two asexual robots than any others ongoing character's right now.
 
Vyer said:
I need some fellow xboners here. I won't have my PS4 till next year.



I'm willing to wait that long.



Would I be lost since I don't read the regular series (or at least less lost than most of the Future's End stuff makes me?)
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Dude! GT: KidInsomnia lets do it to it mah dude!!

ViewtifulJC said:
I have to read it in chucks because its a slow burner, but Fraction's really good here and Chaykin hasn't been this good in ages. I think the central story with Michael is the most boring/narratively shaky one, but the cast as a whole is so interesting and well drawn you're ok with. I have confidence they know what they're doing, particularly after the latest issue #10.

In fact, all the books I read this week were satisfactory. Rick Remender and Jason Aaron seem pretty buddy-buddy, the way they seem to love Grant Morrison and embrace the fantastical elements of the Marvel Universe and share each other's characters like Kid Apocalypse and Deathlok. I have to imagine they planned their Captain America/Thor titles togther. Both started with a 10+ issue epic right out the gate, then there was some wtf story like man what is all this shit, then it got better if never reaching the heights of the opening story, and they end at #25 right in time for a big character change.

No Cap this week, but Thor: God of Thunder #25 had a cool framing device of stories hyping up the incoming threats, and it was great to see Guera and Bisley on the interiors for that old Norse myth flavor. The Malekith origin in particular was nice, considering he's gonna be one of the Big Bads in the upcoming War of the Realms, its good see some development on that front. He's already more interesting than his generic Thor: The Dark World counterpart. Sadly, the backmatter confirmed that this is the last time we'll see Esad Ribic, noooooooo. Well, I hope they keep artists of Dauterman's caliber, I'd hate to go back to that Garney nadir. No offense to the man, but forklore adventure is not his calling.

And on the Remender front, if UA #22 was the climax, UA #23 the resolution, then Uncanny Avengers #24 is the transition from this book's current state into AXIS. For all intents and purposes, when the book ends at #25 next month(another similarity to Cap/Thor's titles), AXIS will be continuing their story, and they'll come out of it as the Astonishing Avengers or something, so this is just getting all the pieces from one board to another. Or in the case of Wolverine, getting him off the board entirely, RIP in peace my nigga. Nothing too exciting, especially not from Larocoa here, hoo boy.

Muuuuch stronger art/lettering/coloring/everything on Remender's other book, Deadly Class #7, which came back this week. Its usage of the journal to recap new and old readers on current events is more clever than it lets on considering that cliffhanger. Teen angst/depression, drugs, love triangles, bullies and nerds, people trying to fit in. Its all very high school, all very compelling to read due to Rick's punk voice and the stupidly good artwork. Craig and Loughridge are so good at just about everything. Gradually shifting moods or sudden shocks of violence, character expression and environmental detail, the way they show Saya pulls his tie to the right in one smooth controlled motion that glides your eyes as you read left to right, the way they'll structure a page with the tension of the bow and arrow assailant to the left about to release on the increasingly intimate scene on the right but nah Saya's got it she's just too cool.

Not as cool as Baal from The Wicked + The Divine #4 tho. Gillen is still using the Murder Mystery Plot as an excuse for the world building, which ultimately seems to be a dead end as of now, but his characters too cool, his dialog so arch and funny, McKelvie's comedic timing and delivery too on point, it hardly matters. Who needs substance when you have so much style?

There's a certain style David Lapham has been using on all 50 issues of Stray Bullets, dating back to its origins in 1995, and that's an 8 panel grid. 8, like the octaves of a musical scale, creates a tempo, a rhythm you get to when you're reading. He can do ANYTHING with this shit; quiet contemplative scenes between friends and lovers, hilarious set pieces, well choreographed explosions of violence, it all seems to fit together. AND when he bursts out of the rhythm for a splash page or 3 wide panels it means something because of the irregularity and gives the story a new effect. He also does all the lettering, and he's always in control of the emphasis on certain words or the speaking patterns of the cast. Stray Bullets: Killers #7 is just the latest in line. His characters are great and feel like real people, his humor legitimately works, the violence is all at once exciting and horrifying, and he seamlessly goes through a bunch of different tones in one issue that all works together because of that 8 page rhythm I talked about. I'm so, so glad Stray Bullets is back, because its the best crime comic on the block.

Multiversity talked a lot about 8 as well, a visual motif for the music of the multiverses humming together. We get a peak at one here in Society of Superheroes #1, which really is a #1 and not Multiversity #2. Usually, with these Elseworlds, we'll get the "definitive" story, where they create Vampire/Steampunk/1930s Hollywood Noir Batman, do some cool shit with him, and then he dies or everyone blows up. Which ya know, badass, but you kinda wasted a universe, ya know? What Grant is doing, structurally, is creating the first issue of several ongoings that he no intention of following up on. Seven universes where he'll introduce the characters and their world, have an exciting adventure with hints of a bigger Gentry plot tying them together, and then ended on a cliffhanger, because Never The End. Just one story of many. We, as the readers, get to see these universes through the prisms of these comic books, just like they get to see us in our universe through their comic books. The whole Multiverse ringing together. As for the issue itself, its good, done in a pulpy Doc Savage mold of two-fisted action, WW2 bi-planes, and Nazi zombies. Chris Spourse, who worked with Alan Moore on his own pulpy throwbacks Supreme and Tom Strong, is well-suited for the material. His men are lantern jawed heroes, his action with a cartoony lighthearted flair for even the most savage of scenes. Speaking of which, I like how Grant brought Vandal Savage back, after using him in the other Morrison/Spourse collab Return of Bruce Wayne #1. Its a fun read, dramatic heroic returns, smoking guns going off right on time, wham bam, thank you, ma'am.

You know, COMICS!

Edit: Oops, almost forgot Daredevil, that consistent beacon of quality, that charming superhero book that can reel you in and then twist on a dime. There's a new colorist on Daredevil #9, but his palette seems right at home with Javier Rodriguez's work on the title. The opening and closing scenes draw a lot of their supposed power from his lighting and shadows, and the purple shades of the various antagonists. Meanwhile, the Matt Murdock sections of the middle stand out because of how bright and warm Matt and Kristen's interactions are, and how his soap opera personal problems of a failing business and suspicious book deal contrast with the Purple Man bookends. As long as Waid and Samnee are on board, I can always count on Daredevil to be well crafted, I guess.
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Please do this every week. Great read.
 
I always wonder what kind of reaction Nick Spencer would get if he ever came back home to one of the Cincy conventions. He was pretty much run out of town about eight years ago after a series of failed political campaigns and business failures (including booking a music festival and not having enough money to pay a lot of the bands). It seems like he's done a good job of burying that part of his history.
 
tim1138 said:
I always wonder what kind of reaction Nick Spencer would get if he ever came back home to one of the Cincy conventions. He was pretty much run out of town about eight years ago after a series of failed political campaigns and business failures (including booking a music festival and not having enough money to pay a lot of the bands). It seems like he's done a good job of burying that part of his history.
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WHAAAAAT?

Nick Spencer has an Ice Town????
 
BenjaminBirdie said:
WHAAAAAT?

Nick Spencer has an Ice Town????
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Oh my god yeah. He ran a club at two different locations and was thrown out of both for failing to pay rent, he apparently stiffed the bands that played at said club as well. After the failed music festival he got on stage at another show and asked for donations to help pay the bands from said festival. He didn't just burn bridges, he apparently nuked them from orbit.
 
tim1138 said:
Oh my god yeah. He ran a club at two different locations and was thrown out of both for failing to pay rent, he apparently stiffed the bands that played at said club as well. After the failed music festival he got on stage at another show and asked for donations to help pay the bands from said festival. He didn't just burn bridges, he apparently nuked them from orbit.
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Wow, that's really interesting. I mean, I really only read one book from him, but I would never assume that he would do things like that.
 
Tyrant Rave said:
Wow, that's really interesting. I mean, I really only read one book from him, but I would never assume that he would do things like that.
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Reading Superior Foes I can totally see him pulling a variety of shady stuff.
 
Tyrant Rave said:
Lol, I know what you mean. I guess I just like to think the best of everyone.
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I knew of his past before I started reading it and when I started reading that book I instantly thought: "Yeah, this makes sense." None of his other books gave me that response.
 
I wish Dark Horse would give in and go to Comixology. I am not willing to use their app to split my digital comics so I have just ended up dropping all their books. I'd love to have Hellboy and Empowered on Comixology.
 
Messi said:
I wish Dark Horse would give in and go to Comixology. I am not willing to use their app to split my digital comics so I have just ended up dropping all their books. I'd love to have Hellboy and Empowered on Comixology.
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I can't live without Hellboy/BPRD but yeah, I've skipped all their awesome looking new series.
 
Damn it is addicting and dangerous :(
I want this!
Greg Capullp Black & White Batman
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I'll be getting this next year when it comes out
Francis Manapul Black & White Batman
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ThyMusicMan said:
Damn it is addicting and dangerous :(
I want this!
Greg Capullp Black & White Batman


I'll be getting this next year when it comes out
Francis Manapul Black & White Batman
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I once made a list of all the Batman Black & White figures that I wanted. The list was getting long so I immediately close the file and didn't save it. Saved me several hundred dollars.
 
Superior Spider-Man 32 was quite good. Enjoyed the two last issues much more than the "official" run. And by far more than the current Amazing Spider-Man.
 
Finished Punisher Presents: Barracuda, which i'd somehow been unaware existed.

It's... odd, really. Can't recall a character that is as big a psychopath as Barracuda in comics. Usually you get moustache-twirling evil guys, misunderstood anti-heroes and the like.

Cuda is Patrick Bateman without the self-doubt.

Moved on to Punisher Noir, read the two outta four issues. Pretty solid so far.
 
Deadly Class #7 was soooo good. The writing/story telling is amazing. Book of the month candidate.
Daredevil #8 was good,,, It seemed to fall a little short for me this issue. Still good, still enjoy it. Just not spectacular
T.M.N.T : Turtles In Time #4 of 4 was an ok issue. It felt kind of flat too,, like that issue was just a big lesson about life lol. It was a decent mini series though.
Edge of Spider-Verse #2 was a great issue. I freggin heart Robbi Rodriguez.
 
Coriolanus said:
Finished Punisher Presents: Barracuda, which i'd somehow been unaware existed.

It's... odd, really. Can't recall a character that is as big a psychopath as Barracuda in comics. Usually you get moustache-twirling evil guys, misunderstood anti-heroes and the like.

Cuda is Patrick Bateman without the self-doubt.

Moved on to Punisher Noir, read the two outta four issues. Pretty solid so far.
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have you read the Nick Fury Max series? Cuda does what he does best for a good 4 issues if I remember correctly.
 
When it comes to Avengers/Illuminati forthcoming struggle, I side with the Illuminati. I'll typically always side with my silent hero, Black Bolt.
 
Guys. While I was in Florida I found a comic store that did loads of back issues. I picked 3 issues of Y the last man that I liked the covers of. Today I opened them to see what issues I got.

Massive Y the last man spoilers. You have been warned.

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the issue where 355 and Alison have sex on the boat

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The issue where 355 buys herself the black dress

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The issue where 355 gets sniped :((((((

I feel like crying :
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Read Justice League United FE and it was alright. The Legion stuff is lost on me, I hope Lemire does better introductions in the arc.

Batman and Robin was fun. Loved the choice of Robin! Never thought I would see that character again.

Read Ms. Marvel from last week and it was usual fantastic quality. So charming.

I'm out on Wicked and Divine. Just not my cup of tea. My wife gets it so I can still read it if I choose too.

Multiversity was awesome! I really like JCs explanation of this issue!

Batman Eternal was great quality. From the cover, this was a Stephanie Brown centric issue and it was fantastic.

Weakest book of the week was Futures End weekly. After the last few issues having some great moments, this issue just slammed on the breaks. Unfortunately.

Deadly Class tonight and then done.
 
Daredevil was good this week, interested in seeing what happens next.

Transformers MTMTE was good this week too, although the truth of the mystery is something I figured already.
...but man THAT ENDING!
WTF BRAINY?!?!
 
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