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NFL Week 5 - All this Bailout bullcrap is taking away sweet sweet Cowboy TV time!!!

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BATTED THAT SHIT DOWN BITCH!

BOOOOOOOOOOOYAH!

DEL RIO AM CRY!
 
BlackMage said:
AFC South kind of sucks now. And don't tell me Titans are anything special.


As long as Vince Young stays on the sideline, the Titans are going to have to be considered a serious title contender.
 
Tamanon said:
Dangit. Good game Steelers, ugly called game, but good game.
I agree that the game was called badly.

A lot of WTF calls on taunting, late hits, etc.

Big Ben again shows why he is the Messiah though. Holy fuck was he awesome on that game winning drive.

4-1 heading into the bye-week and maybe we can get healthy. I hope we keep playing Moore though. It makes our offense so much better having a back who can catch out of the backfield. That is a huge hole in Fast Willie's game and it really takes a lot of pressure off of Ben and the o-line.
 
ugh, another week another loss.

not much to say about the game. people will see the box score and blame JTO and he deserves 60% of the blame, but our defense is god awful on the line.

we're 2-3 right now with tough games coming up. if we can get to the midway point of the season at 3-5 i think we'll be in good shape in our division. although we'll get stomped in the playoffs if that were to happen anyways!
 
Tamanon said:
Dangit. Good game Steelers, ugly called game, but good game.

Ugh, still another week until the bye week too. God, I hope Meester comes back soon, he'll greatly help the run game.

Thank god the game wasn't in the Burgh. And they finally won despite the Mathis pick 6, I'll take it.

4-1 into the bye and not sure what to think. As shitty as the Steelers have played at times, they are practically one good offensive drive in the Eagles game away from 5-0. But they certainly aren't undefeated material. Lick their wounds and hopefully come back and keep it rolling.
 
a couple thoughts on the game--

how the hell have the jags not gotten a high-end WR yet? How many years are they gonna let pass by before they decide that it might be nice to have a guy who can hold the ball in key situations?

is there bad blood between mike tomlin and mike tice? I saw the handshake after the game and it seemed VERY cold. they used to work together, didnt' they? you'd think they'd be a LITTLE more chummy.







oh yeah, what's there to say about the lions? I'm actually not so upset that I had to work during the game today. beats the alternative-- havin to watch them :lol

if we don't trade roy williams someone should be shot
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
ugh, another week another loss.

not much to say about the game. people will see the box score and blame JTO and he deserves 60% of the blame, but our defense is god awful on the line.

we're 2-3 right now with tough games coming up. if we can get to the midway point of the season at 3-5 i think we'll be in good shape in our division. although we'll get stomped in the playoffs if that were to happen anyways!

It's hard to root for someone who throws up ducks and then passes into triple coverage. Dude makes 3 or 4 horrible passes per game it's ridiculous.

Gore only had 12 touches all game... everytime he has less then 20, we're going to lose.
 
whytemyke said:
a couple thoughts on the game--

how the hell have the jags not gotten a high-end WR yet? How many years are they gonna let pass by before they decide that it might be nice to have a guy who can hold the ball in key situations?

is there bad blood between mike tomlin and mike tice? I saw the handshake after the game and it seemed VERY cold. they used to work together, didnt' they? you'd think they'd be a LITTLE more chummy.







oh yeah, what's there to say about the lions? I'm actually not so upset that I had to work during the game today. beats the alternative-- havin to watch them :lol

if we don't trade roy williams someone should be shot

Dude, we drafted Wide Receivers in the first round 2 years in a row, then a second rounder(Mike Walker who actually is coming along quite nicely). We bring in wide receivers all the time and they all quickly revert to garbage! It's bizarre, it's like we draft receivers using the Lions playbook but forget to actually hit one of them.
 
Spectral Glider said:
Thank god the game wasn't in the Burgh. And they finally won despite the Mathis pick 6, I'll take it.

4-1 into the bye and not sure what to think. As shitty as the Steelers have played at times, they are practically one good offensive drive in the Eagles game away from 5-0. But they certainly aren't undefeated material. Lick their wounds and hopefully come back and keep it rolling.
The Steelers aren't close to perfect, but this season you won't need to win a Superbowl. Steelers just need to get in and keep half assing their ways to victories in the playoffs.

Offense is looking A LOT better since the 2nd half of the Ravens game. The play calling got a little stupid in the 2nd half, but luckily the Messiah decided to save us once again (apparently the 15th game winning drive in 4 years).

Moore is looking really good and I want to see him keep playing regardless of Willie's health. The guy can definitely play and he should be splitting carries with Parker.

Overall man you gotta be happy with 4-1 considering we had to play the Ravens, Eagles, and Jags.

I will be very happy if the Steelers can go 7-4 the rest of the year looking at the teams they have to play. And because of the schedule they will be very battle tested come playoff time (if any of them are still able to play...).
 
Spectral Glider said:
Thank god the game wasn't in the Burgh. And they finally won despite the Mathis pick 6, I'll take it.

4-1 into the bye and not sure what to think. As shitty as the Steelers have played at times, they are practically one good offensive drive in the Eagles game away from 5-0. But they certainly aren't undefeated material. Lick their wounds and hopefully come back and keep it rolling.

We play the Bengals after the bye week so 5-1 is pretty likely. Thankfully the other teams in our division have tough schedules, we should be in good condition playoff wise if we're able to sweep the division.
 
methodman said:
Gore only had 12 touches all game... everytime he has less then 20, we're going to lose.

Why only 12? I didn't see the game but it doesn't look like SF was that far behind at any point. Was it just one of those Mike Martz days?
 
Tamanon said:
:lol Andrea Kremer kinda twisting the knife.

"Good job Ben, first time beating the Jaguars"

He had a 4th quarter comeback in his rookie season to beat them. But that's ok, in their Mathis highlight reel, I'm sure they showed the pick against Maddox in '05, Ben didn't play in that game.
 
greepoman said:
Why only 12? I didn't see the game but it doesn't look like SF was that far behind at any point. Was it just one of those Mike Martz days?

It's Martz. You stop the run early and he'll find that a quick, easy excuse to just drop the whole run game.
 
greepoman said:
Why only 12? I didn't see the game but it doesn't look like SF was that far behind at any point. Was it just one of those Mike Martz days?

We played prevent defense against Cassell; So when we got the ball and went 3-and-out (which happened very frequently), the Patriots always seemed to have 5+ minute drives on us. Martz went away from Gore way too early.
 
bionic77 said:
The Steelers aren't close to perfect, but this season you won't need to win a Superbowl. Steelers just need to get in and keep half assing their ways to victories in the playoffs.

Considering the state of their O-line and all the other injuries I'd say they're pretty damn impressive. As long as they get into the playoffs with Big Ben and Willie Parker healthy, I like their chances.
 
greepoman said:
Considering the state of their O-line and all the other injuries I'd say they're pretty damn impressive. As long as they get into the playoffs with Big Ben and Willie Parker healthy, I like their chances.
I don't like anyone's chances to win this year, but at the same time I think the rules say that 'someone' has to win the Superbowl every year, whether deserving or not. I am hoping that the Steelers get into the playoffs, get some breaks, have some miracles, and crush the Cowboys in the Superbowl.

But at this point I won't be surprised at anyone winning the Superbowl. Not even someone from the NFC North or West.
 
Tamanon said:
Dude, we drafted Wide Receivers in the first round 2 years in a row, then a second rounder(Mike Walker who actually is coming along quite nicely). We bring in wide receivers all the time and they all quickly revert to garbage! It's bizarre, it's like we draft receivers using the Lions playbook but forget to actually hit one of them.
you should hire millen. he'll get ya a receiver. ;)

we've got 2. bingo bango, 50% success rate.
 
bionic77 said:
But at this point I won't be surprised at anyone winning the Superbowl. Not even someone from the NFC North or West.

fuck yeah

packer redemption starts next week baby

i hope :(
 
bionic77 said:
But at this point I won't be surprised at anyone winning the Superbowl. Not even someone from the NFC North or West.

Yeah that's the NFL...though I would have a hard time believing Detroit or St. Louis winning the superbowl...bad teams of the past I recall are competitive every other game at least...these two teams don't even seem to be competitive at all . :lol
 
bionic77 said:
I don't like anyone's chances to win this year, but at the same time I think the rules say that 'someone' has to win the Superbowl every year, whether deserving or not. I am hoping that the Steelers get into the playoffs, get some breaks, have some miracles, and crush the Cowboys in the Superbowl.

But at this point I won't be surprised at anyone winning the Superbowl. Not even someone from the NFC North or West.

It's really crazy what's happened to the AFC in a matter of just weeks. Still kind of early though, things may become more normal as time goes on.

Despite their easier schedule, I still think the Giants are playing the most solid all around football. Redskins are starting to match that after a slow start. Cowboys are right there, but the sometimes soft defense and the propensity for bonehead turnovers hurt them and could still be why they won't win in the playoffs. The rest of the NFC is a huge toss up. However, the Bears might be making a move towards the top.
 
This is why I love the NFL more than NCAA Football. Every game is competitive, aside from the rams and the lions, and means something. There are no, well your team is guaranteed to win by 50 points games in this league. I can't stand that about college football.
 
Spectral Glider said:
It's really crazy what's happened to the AFC in a matter of just weeks. Still kind of early though, things may become more normal as time goes on.

Despite their easier schedule, I still think the Giants are playing the most solid all around football. Redskins are starting to match that after a slow start. Cowboys are right there, but the sometimes soft defense and the propensity for bonehead turnovers hurt them and could still be why they won't win in the playoffs. The rest of the NFC is a huge toss up. However, the Bears might be making a move towards the top.

Yeah I guess we just have to remind ourselves Detroit started 6-2 last year and haven't won a game since. :lol


j-wood said:
This is why I love the NFL more than NCAA Football. Every game is competitive, aside from the rams and the lions, and means something. There are no, well your team is guaranteed to win by 50 points games in this league. I can't stand that about college football.

Yeah the blowouts get annoying. Also can't stand how long games tend to go and some games go like 5 hrs+ (6 OTs wtf??).
 
j-wood said:
This is why I love the NFL more than NCAA Football. Every game is competitive, aside from the rams and the lions, and means something. There are no, well your team is guaranteed to win by 50 points games in this league. I can't stand that about college football.
the lions have finally reached the bottom of the barrel, haven't they? it's been a long time coming.

i mean, i think our 2-14 team from a few years back would murder us right now.


sad thing is i don't think any of it is marinelli's fault. there's just no talent on the roster. like if you put him in Pittsburg and Tomlin in Detroit, I think that Tomlin struggles and Marinelli is awesome. Detroit sucks because it's an entire culture of losing and that is impossible to turn around. Look at Arizona.
 
you guys gotta read this piece that I just found from the Lions beat writer. This guy is just pounding the shit out of the organization, and he's their BEAT WRITER :lol
http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2008/10/blame_marinelli_but_lions_simp.html
Who knows when the axe will swing again?

The short-term problem for Ford is there isn't anybody on the coaching staff who is qualified to take over for Marinelli. That in itself should mean Marinelli will finish out the season.

The larger issue is, regardless of when he's finally dismissed, Marinelli simply will be another good coach who got ground up in the gears of Millen's eight years of incompetence. The Lions can once again change coaches -- and coordinators -- but it's simply a diversionary tactic.

The talent on this team is terrible. It's going to take two years to flush out the dregs and to bring in enough talent to make a difference. A lot of people might tell you otherwise, but they're fools. Just like Marinelli was foolish to believe that bringing in a few of his former Tampa Bay players was going to make a difference with this rancid roster.

After trying to bury himself in everything he holds sacred -- run the ball and play sound defense -- Marinelli realized after three games he didn't have the horses to do it. All he has is a bunch of dogs and ponies.

Offensively, Marinelli changed things up Sunday and went to more spread formations and used a no-huddle offense to try to spark something, anything. His team had been outscored 35-0 in the first quarter this season and he was at his wit's end. What did he have to lose?

Marinelli tried the same magic act on defense. Never a big proponent of blitzing, the Lions tried several new blitzes against the Bears because, again, he needed to try something. His defense had been shredded for three consecutive games. What did he have to lose?

What Marinelli has lost is options. There's simply nowhere to turn anymore. Regardless of how you line them up, of the tweaks you make to personnel or scheme, this is a bad football team. And the way things are going, it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.

The guess here would be 2010.


With the Lions traveling to Minnesota next week, and facing the prospect of Adrian Peterson rushing for 300 yards in another lopsided win, the only drama for the Lions over the next eight days will be the future of receiver Roy Williams.

The trade deadline is Oct. 14, but don't look for Detroit to swing a deal.

There have been reports the Lions have asked for two first-round picks in exchange for Williams and, in talks with Dallas, the Lions wanted linebacker Demarcus Ware in return. Some of that information is true, but not accurate. The Lions and Dallas talked about a deal for Williams last March and the Lions wanted Ware. The Cowboys said no.

The Lions haven't talked to any teams about Williams in the past several months.

How bad is it for the Lions? In the first half Sunday, there were three occasions in which the Bears showed the Lions no respect.

First, the Bears won the coin flip to start the game and deferred to the second half. They didn't fear the Lions offense or the possibility of falling behind after the first possession. The Bears were right.

Midway through the second quarter, leading just 3-0, the Bears had a fourth-and-1 at the Detroit 15-yard line. They passed up the easy field goal and went for it. The Lions stepped up and stopped a Chicago running play for no gain but the Bears clearly weren't thinking that every point was going to be crucial in this game. The Bears were right.

Finally, at the end of the half, the Bears had a first-and-10 at the 18-yard line with 32 seconds left. Instead of taking a knee and securing their 17-0 lead, the Bears spread it out and threw a screen pass. The play didn't go anywhere and the Bears didn't snap the ball again but, clearly, the Bears weren't worried the Lions defense would come up with a big play to make their strategy backfire. The Bears were right.

By the way, please don't offer the suggestion that the Lions' defense did a stellar job in holding the Bears to just three points in Chicago's first four possessions. The only reason the Bears weren't more aggressive on offense is because they didn't have to be. The Bears knew the Lions weren't going to score many points and they didn't want to take unnecessary chances and risk game-changing turnovers.

Again, the Bears were right.


HO-LEEEE SHIT :lol



the guy is dead on but hell, if my job was dependant upon my having access to an organization, i'd make sure i didn't light 'em up like that as their main beatwriter. :lol
 
Tamanon said:
I think we assumed he was just dogging it in Oakland like Moss was! Was going to lead the league in TD catches!
I told you before the season started. He wasn't even the Raiders' number 1! That's pretty sad stuff.

I also predicted the Moss resurgence in NE the pre-season he left. Picked him up in all my fantasy leagues for cheap that year. :D
 
Artie said:
fuck yeah

packer redemption starts next week baby

i hope :(

Ugh, I hope so.

I just hope we go at least 1-1 into the bye week. The defensive line just looks bad, and our whole secondary is out or playing hurt.

At least the offense played better this week. Maybe we can beat Seattle 35-28
 
You should all be trembling in your tiny little boots right now, because next week the once and future Kings shall return to reek havoc upon the No Fun League. Yes, next week, the Browns return to the gridiron. I suggest you all start buying up Depends right now for the uncontrollable urination that will occur upon their inevitable domination.
 
Crazymoogle said:
Shit...Ryan Longwell vs. Lance Moore to determine whether I win this week in FF.

Here's hoping Brees airs it out 60+ times monday. -_-
Woah...same situation in one of my leagues. I've got a nice points cushion, though. Thanks, Carolina defense!
 
Tamanon said:
He's kicked the coke habit!

I think it's because the Jags hired Ninja's in Octacon suits and they sprinked coke all over the field, so when Matt Jones see it he's like damn better do good and go that.
 
Oozer3993 said:
You should all be trembling in your tiny little boots right now, because next week the once and future Kings shall return to reek havoc upon the No Fun League. Yes, next week, the Browns return to the gridiron. I suggest you all start buying up Depends right now for the uncontrollable urination that will occur upon their inevitable domination.
:lol
 
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