Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)

Ogs said:
Anyone know if any 970s will release with that reference/titan style cooler ? I've always preferred exhaust coolers (when they aren't grindy noise gits), and I've never really had third party coolers be that significantly quiet anyway.

Plus the reference ones look boss and solid, along with flashy lit up geforce text ;)
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You need to hear the MSI 970 Gaming then (and apparently the Asus 970 Strix performs pretty much the same when it comes to noise and temps). When I say it's quiet I really mean it. Not just quiet compared to the normal reference cooler on most card, it's night and day coming from my 680 DCII Top even.

50% fan speed is barely noticeable.
 
Xyber said:
You need to hear the MSI 970 Gaming then (and apparently the Asus 970 Strix performs pretty much the same when it comes to noise and temps). When I say it's quiet I really mean it. Not just quiet compared to the normal reference cooler on most card, it's night and day coming from my 680 DCII Top even.

50% fan speed is barely noticeable.
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Nice. Really can't wait to get mine. My current 660 TI can get really loud when it's under heavy load. Admittedly a lot of the time it isn't pushed to that point, but it's becoming more and more common.
 
Krusenstern said:
That's nothing to worry about if I recall correctly. I've been using a 660 Ti on a PCI-E 2.0 system without problem.

Someone enlighten me but it will be safe to use a GTX 970/980 on a PCI-E 2.0 system without performance loss, no?
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I remember some time ago a benchmark where they couldn't reduce GTX 690 performance with PCI-E 2.0. For gaming it's only needed if you are planning to run multiple GPUs because 16x PCI-E 2.0 is the same speed as 8x PCI-E 3.0.
 
Tilian said:
Ah, ok, thanks. Yeah, no SLI. I just want the single baddest GPU I can get in there. I have the HDD bays removed so there's lots actually lots of space for a m-itx build (though it's all behind the card). I thought I'd play it safe with the rear blower, but maybe I'll give the Windforce a go after all.
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I have the MSI 970 in a bitfenix prodigy. Only case fans are a big, slow 200mm front intake, and the 120mm rear exhaust which also cools my H60 for the CPU. At load I'm getting temps around 60-65c and 40-45% fan speed (is very quiet)

I don't think you have anything to worry about with any of the current 970 designs.
 
derExperte said:
If it didn't die on you. Those things had the life expectancy of an original 360. :/
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I don't think any GPU can die so easily if you take care of the cooling system.

I still have a 8800GT that's going strong in my i5 PC (still keeping it for a major 970 upgrade) as i changed the cooling system to one that never lets the card go above 65c. Also, it delivers performance far ahead the PS3/XBOX360. Almost every last gen multiplatform game, i can play it at 60+ fps with AA (although, i believe the powerful CPU helps).
 
mrklaw said:
I have the MSI 970 in a bitfenix prodigy. Only case fans are a big, slow 200mm front intake, and the 120mm rear exhaust which also cools my H60 for the CPU. At load I'm getting temps around 60-65c and 40-45% fan speed (is very quiet)

I don't think you have anything to worry about with any of the current 970 designs.
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Oh good, you have a comparable build (I have the H100i on my 4770k). 980 Windforce it is then, cheers!
 
Grief.exe said:
Historically, EVGA has had the best warranty.



I'm still hitting 1080p/60 on a 5 year old, mid-range card. At respectable settings, BF4 on high for example.

A 780 could last the entire generation easily. Maxing games out is where you will run into trouble.
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which card is this because i had a 570 and that certainly would not maintain 60 fps @ 1080 p on high settings in bf4
 
Dynamic3 said:
Why pay an $30 for the "FTW" edition, isn't it just a base card with a software overclock out of the box?
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I don't think it's a software overclock. I pretty sure it's programmed into the bios.

You're just paying extra for an overclock that is under warranty and factory tested.
 
Dynamic3 said:
I see, and I presume doing an OC yourself voids the warranty?
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No. Unless you somehow manage to break it while doing it, which is extremely hard to do (if even possible) with the limited voltage settings.

All that will happen when you clock too high is that the driver will crash and reset. Then you just lower the clock.
 
Dynamic3 said:
I see, and I presume doing an OC yourself voids the warranty?
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I don't see how considering they (the manufacturers) supply you with the overclocking software with the card. As mentioned above, with the limited parameters available I'd imagine it would be very hard to break your card using say MSI afterburner or EVGA precision X.
 
Pre-OC cards may be higher bin, more likely just OC'd to specific TDP settings. They have always been a waste IMO. Stock chips can get often get higher then pre-OC cards or at least match highest settings.

CPUs are different (w/ bining) but for GPUs, you are basically paying someone to OC your card for you, to a specific point.
 
Faith said:
I keep hearing that the Titan cooler is better for SLI. Will I have any problems if I have 2x Gigabyte Gaming G1 970?
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Depends on the cooling of your case. The Titan cooler is great because it is a blower style and dumps the heat outside. Really nice when you have multiple GPUs running in your system.
 
So my brother wants to buy my iPod Classic off of me as a backup (I haven't used it in months since I've pretty much migrated completely to using my phone), so it looks like I may go ahead and upgrade my 680 with the cash. I guess I'll go for 970 and either SLI later or upgrade again when they release the products on the new process if the gains are there.

I think that may be why they're pricing the 970 the way they are, to give people that are thinking of waiting on the smaller process before upgrading a nearly "can't pass this up" upgrade pricing to get them off the fence. If the 970 had come in over $400 I know I'd definitely still be on that fence. As it is, with this extra cash, and the price of the 970, it's the very definition of intermediate upgrade.
 
iqubal said:
A 600W PSU should handle a 970 vid card right?

May need to upgrade my 670 now :)
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I should hope so, otherwise I'm screwed.....I've run both the 670 ftw and gtx 970 on a EVGA 500w PSU without issue.


I might add, The 970 is a very nice upgrade from the 670 ;)
 
Mousnis said:
Guys, stop being so paranoid with your PSUs... these issues are for people who to SLI setups.
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I was joking...... on the back of my box, it states "Minimum 500w or greater system power supply with a minimum 12v current rating of 42 A" I'm good, and I have it in writing to prove it lol.
 
Find it hard to look at this thread title knowing that the 970 is currently priced at 399 euro ($510) over here.

Hoping that will go down quite a bit in forthcoming period.
 
Merino said:
Find it hard to look at this thread title knowing that the 970 is currently priced at 399 euro ($510) over here.

Hoping that will go down quite a bit in forthcoming period.
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Yeah... i was hoping the pricing to be the usual (and still unfair) dollar to Eu and translate the 320$ to 320E, but they had to increase the price even further just because.
 
SLI 980's or wait for the Titan/ti version? I don't really need to upgrade until February though so I can wait it out a bit.
 
Improved the cable management a bit :p Only the best for my new babies.

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Mousnis said:
Guys, stop being so paranoid with your PSUs... these issues are for people who to SLI setups.
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So would the Gigabyte G1 970 (which Gigabyte says requires a 550w PSU) be fine with my 500w PSU? It seems to be the only card I've run into that's asking for more than 500.

Other cards with custom cooling that might fit in my case setup (card height is an issue) are the EVGA cards (which are sounding kind of shaky), the Zotac one (weirdly tiny and kind of an unknown at this point), and the cheaper MSI card (all the reviews are of the Twin Frozr one). The Gigabyte seems like the best choice to me if it will work with my PSU.
 
Patrickula said:
So would the Gigabyte G1 970 (which Gigabyte says requires a 550w PSU) be fine with my 500w PSU? It seems to be the only card I've run into that's asking for more than 500.

Other cards with custom cooling that might fit in my case setup (card height is an issue) are the EVGA cards (which are sounding kind of shaky), the Zotac one (weirdly tiny and kind of an unknown at this point), and the cheaper MSI card (all the reviews are of the Twin Frozr one). The Gigabyte seems like the best choice to me if it will work with my PSU.
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Depends what your PSU is.
 
Found my first game that made my overclock on the card be a bit unstable and I got some artifacts. Diablo 3...

Lowered a bit and now I "only" hit 1503MHz in boost clock, but D3 ran perfectly after that.
 
Seriously considering getting a 970 in a couple months to replace my Crossfire AMD 5870s. I think that will keep my system going for another year or so (i7 920 OC'd to 3.6) until I get around to doing a full upgrade / new build.
 
Canis lupus said:
I don't think a 8800GT can play any modern games at decent settings though, sure it may provide console quality but it's a high end card that was much superior to last gen consoles when it came out.
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The 8800GT never was sold as a high end card, I paid 250€ during release. These comparisons really do not work, the situation now is very different.

Mousnis said:
I don't think any GPU can die so easily if you take care of the cooling system.
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Certain batches of 8800GT chips had some kind of manufacturing fault which NV only admitted behind closed doors. Lots died after only a few months with nothing anyone could do about it.
 
Ceebs said:
SLI 980's or wait for the Titan/ti version? I don't really need to upgrade until February though so I can wait it out a bit.
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That is what I plan on doing. Wife "ok'd" a rebuild for next year, so I am going to wait it out for bit. I game on a 4k Set, so need something with a bit more Vram and a bit more power.
 
What I find a bit weird is that the manufacturers have two PCBs for the GTX970. A small mid-range one and a full size one. I hope they didn't cut the costs too much for the small one. It would suck if they were somehow less reliable.
 
Tilian said:
Ah, ok, thanks. Yeah, no SLI. I just want the single baddest GPU I can get in there. I have the HDD bays removed so there's lots actually lots of space for a m-itx build (though it's all behind the card). I thought I'd play it safe with the rear blower, but maybe I'll give the Windforce a go after all.
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I have the same case and a 770 and one thing I did was spend waaaaay to long tidying up the wires and moved my ssd and hd around so I could get the most room and best airflow. Ending up dropping my temps by doing that alone.

One thing I was contemplating is "upgrading" my 1.5 TB 3.5" drive to a 2 TB 2.5" drive to cut down the clutter even more. Not sure how much of a performance downgrade that would be though.
 
I'm torn between buying a 970 now and waiting.

On one hand, if I buy it now, I won't have to postpone GTA5 and The Witcher 3 by too much.
On the other, I don't like beign an early adopters because you never know what issues may arise.

If I wait, I'd buy for Christmas, maybe even late January. This kind of eliminates the early adopter thing, but I wouldn't be able to buy GTA5 and The Witcher 3 on launch day. I could also wait and see how it performs in GTA5, but I don't really care because I'm not buiyng a 980 or waiting another year anyway.
And my 570 is still going strong at the moment. I'm not playing very intensive games.

Decisions, decisions.
 
Kieli said:
The GTX970 is, at its cheapest, $380 CAD. Uuuuugggghhhhh.
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270€ versus over 300€ up to 350€ here. You still have it good. :(

TronLight said:
Decisions, decisions.
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I don't quite understand. Why would you be able to buy those games earlier when buying the card now instead of later? Put the money aside and it won't matter, it's not like it'll disappear all by itself. Also the cards could become cheaper though seeing the demand I wouldn't bet on it happening this year.
 
Mousnis said:
Yeah... i was hoping the pricing to be the usual (and still unfair) dollar to Eu and translate the 320$ to 320E, but they had to increase the price even further just because.
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The Zotac is £259 currently at Ebuyer. I went for the £275 win Frozr V Edition and although we are being ripped off, your comparison to 320E seems pretty accurate. :)
 
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