I will, as soon as I will receive my GTX 970 TwinFRZ.
Yes, I've just placed the order
And, yes, I'm fucking stupid 
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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I will, as soon as I will receive my GTX 970 TwinFRZ.
derExperte
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Consumer CPU development has slowed down immensely for many reasons. New Windows versions are getting better optimized and faster instead of the other way around, same goes for normal software so the average user doesn't really need to upgrade anymore (an SSD is a much better investment for most). Old console gen holding game development back. New gen using good but not high-end processors. AMD not threatening Intel anymore beyond the mid-range (if even that) so they don't need to push too hard. I'm sure we'll see a game rather sooner than later which profits from more than four cores, Witcher 3 for example, but I think it'll be a while before the 2500K becomes a real problem.
Which games can use more than 4gb VRAM at 1080p?
should I get a rog swift or the new acer 4k with g sync?? enlighten me gaf!That's not a good comparison though. There are available GPUs that are far better than those found in the consoles, that wasn't the case for the PS/360 straight away.
The 8800GT was a few months after the PS3 (in Europe) and lasted up until this year.
derExperte
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If it didn't die on you. Those things had the life expectancy of an original 360. :/
Watch_Dogs, but that's mostly thanks to Ubisofts fantastic *cough* porting skills.
Anyway, with AC: Unity and Far Cry 4 around the corner and nothing changing the fact they'll probably eat tons of VRAM if Watch_Dogs is any indication it isn't that strange that people already want to future proof their cards with 6GB or 8GB of VRAM.
In the case of WD 6+GB of VRAM won't help much as there are reports of stuttering even on Titans. Something is busted on the side of the streaming system.
Speaking for myself with ultra textures I do get very subtle but noticeable stuttering when driving at high speeds at a high framerate, the engine can't keep up.
GTX 780 here.
So the amount of VRAM is not the culprit, we can only hope FC4 and Unity will have a better streaming system in place. Even then I can see both games requiring 3GB at maximum settings.
I will, as soon as I will receive my GTX 970 TwinFRZ.
Yes, I've just placed the orderAnd, yes, I'm fucking stupid
Don't worry guys.
SHADES
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Really pleased with my MSI GTX 970 upgrade from a GTX 670 FTW. Runs DayZ at the highest (meaningful) settings 60FPS in the cities, 100+ in the wilderness with a few config tweaks(@1080p)
My fire strike score jumped from low 6000 with the 670 to 9725 with 970 at stock speeds (paired with a i7 4770.
The cherry on the cake being I've just sold my 670 for £20 more than I paid for it back in June
My fire strike score jumped from low 6000 with the 670 to 9725 with 970 at stock speeds (paired with a i7 4770.
The cherry on the cake being I've just sold my 670 for £20 more than I paid for it back in June
brain_stew
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If you're going SLI, then using a decent blower is going to be preferable but unfortunately there's few 970s that use a blower and those that do look a little feeble.
Personally, I'd avoid the EVGA card. The clocks that a card ship with aren't all that important if you're overclocking because you can change them. What is important is the overall quality of the cooling and MSI, Gigabyte and Asus have EVGA soundly beat here. EVGA may have the card running cool but it has to ramp it's fans up to 1800 RPM to do so making it just about the loudest 970 on the market.
Two of the EVGA cards could get noisy.
Windom Earle
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Not anymore, I think it's due to the new Nvidia compression tech on Maxwell. Hitting ~3,2 gigs with 8xMSAA and ultra textures.
I think the only scenario where 4 is not enough currently is Skyrim with ridiculous texture mods.
Prophet Steve
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That makes barely a difference with these cards. Down the line if you mean upgrading another time in a few years, yeah, then it may become a problem.
TheNamelessOne
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I also have a 2500k and can keep you posted about how it works.
If there's any problem, I'll just upgrade to a 4970k.
So which 970 then looks the best overall? Are all the EVGA ones noisy?
Yeah it'll be another 2 years at least imo until that becomes an issue.
Yeah it'll be another 2 years at least imo until that becomes an issue.
j0hnny_385
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Interested in this as well.
I'm torn between:
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0
and
GIGABYTE GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD
I think they're both great, and it all comes down to price and RMA/support.
Both are excellent here in the UK. Galaxy are great too from what I've read. MSI make good cards but having been through their RMA process twice I'm not keen to experience it again.
TheNamelessOne
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I went with a MSI 970 Gaming. Seems like the best balance between performance/cooling/noise.
Terbinator
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Giga are UK based RMA wise to boot.
Netherlands RMA base though.
Yep it's handy to have. GALAX have UK based one too.
EVGA at least have their advanced RMA despite it being abroad.
It's pretty hard to get a decent price right now. It seems like most of the stores are raising the price. Most of 970 are $400+. I think EVGA is the only one below $400.
edit: NCIX, memory express (if you live in Alberta) to name a few
lowrider007
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As long as you have your chip @ 4Ghz+ you'll be fine, I'm also rocking a 2500k @ 4.4Ghz and intend to grab a GTX980 next week, although tbh I don't expect a massive jump in performance over my 780SC but new toy syndrome and all that.
Mine is still working in my old pc at my brothers place.
The Most impressive one I've seen so far is the GTX 970 FTW from EVGA.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/74853-evga-geforce-gtx-970-ftw/
brain_stew
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It has the highest clocks out the box but I wouldn't class a model that ramps it's fan upto 1800RPM as impressive. The fans on the MSI and Asus models barely ramp up at all.
Witchfinder General
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I went with the Asus. To me it has the best combination between noise (it's stupidly quiet), build quality, warranty, performance and potential for OC.
Is it possible to set the threshold beyond which the fans will start spinning ?
The base one is 65°C but If I owned this GPU I would like something more conservative, let's say 35°C.
Warranty might look good but the actual rma service is poor. At least here in the UK it is.
Witchfinder General
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Not sure. I haven't received mine yet.
phxxBullet
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Jump from 660Ti to 970 can double the performance. 5870 to 970 is probably tripple.
Wow. Just wow.
Seems like I'll upgrade in the near future, although the HD5870 is still doing "okay" at 1080p/maxed.
But then again I didn't play many newer games (2013/14), and I'm sure it won't do the job for 1080p/60hz maxed.
Would be a good time to upgrade my Phenom II 965 too.
Or just OC it and wait for DDR4 prices to drop and jump to a new Intel platform.
Good thing I won't have fans on it whenever I buy my GPU.
Yep.
Krusenstern
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That's nothing to worry about if I recall correctly. I've been using a 660 Ti on a PCI-E 2.0 system without problem.
Someone enlighten me but it will be safe to use a GTX 970/980 on a PCI-E 2.0 system without performance loss, no?
Skylake will be 2016 unless you're wanting to go X99, and that'd be bug bucks.
It's fine.
Hmm, I'm worried about what people are saying regarding small cases with less airflow.
I have a BitFenix Phenom m-itx build. I want to replace the current GTX 760 with the Gigabyte G1 980 Windforce. I have no problems with the current 760 setup (the dual fans blow right against the outside wall, but temps are fine even when downsampling for hours.)
So my question: would the heat production of the 980 be drastically different and cause any problems? (As far as one can tell with current info.) Or should I just play it safe and go with a rear blower (I really do prefer the G1 though).
I have a BitFenix Phenom m-itx build. I want to replace the current GTX 760 with the Gigabyte G1 980 Windforce. I have no problems with the current 760 setup (the dual fans blow right against the outside wall, but temps are fine even when downsampling for hours.)
So my question: would the heat production of the 980 be drastically different and cause any problems? (As far as one can tell with current info.) Or should I just play it safe and go with a rear blower (I really do prefer the G1 though).
You can view a direct comparison of your GPU against pretty much any card card using this comparison tool over at AnandTech: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1062?vs=1351
It doesn't look like they have the 970 available just yet, but since it looks like you can overclock pretty much any 970 into a 980, just use that in place of a 970.
brain_stew
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The Titan style stock GTX 980 cooler is pretty damn good and exhausts all the heat out of the back of your case which is ideal in a cramped case. The Wind force is also very long, I think you may be better served by the reference design in all honesty.
Cheers. The Windforce length does fit the case (I did a thorough check), but I suppose going with the reference blower is smartest. I guess the little extra juice the Windforce has isn't worth the gamble.
DodgyGeezerFella
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Anyone know if any 970s will release with that reference/titan style cooler ? I've always preferred exhaust coolers (when they aren't grindy noise gits), and I've never really had third party coolers be that significantly quiet anyway.
Plus the reference ones look boss and solid, along with flashy lit up geforce text
Plus the reference ones look boss and solid, along with flashy lit up geforce text
Anyone know if any 970s will release with that reference/titan style cooler ? I've always preferred exhaust coolers (when they aren't grindy noise gits), and I've never really had third party coolers be that significantly quiet anyway.
Plus the reference ones look boss and solid, along with flashy lit up geforce text
Something like this?
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-1970-KR
Canis lupus
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I don't think a 8800GT can play any modern games at decent settings though, sure it may provide console quality but it's a high end card that was much superior to last gen consoles when it came out. So in the end, did it degrade to console level or did console optimizations bring them closer to 8800GT performance over time? The notion that GTX780 would set you for the entire generation was ridiculous. There will come a time when it can't hit 1080p60. I also think that people in the market for these cards are enthusiasts who upgrade when they can't hit the highest settings and frames, so mostly within 2-3 years. Judging from this thread many are upgrading from 500/600 series like me.
people are only talking about that with reference to SLI setups and non-blower GPUs. And even then, having decent airflow in your case should help a lot.
and with mini-ITX you aren't going SLI anyway so it shouldn't be a concern for you at all.
Historically, EVGA has had the best warranty.
I'm still hitting 1080p/60 on a 5 year old, mid-range card. At respectable settings, BF4 on high for example.
A 780 could last the entire generation easily. Maxing games out is where you will run into trouble.
Ah, ok, thanks. Yeah, no SLI. I just want the single baddest GPU I can get in there. I have the HDD bays removed so there's lots actually lots of space for a m-itx build (though it's all behind the card). I thought I'd play it safe with the rear blower, but maybe I'll give the Windforce a go after all.
fluffydelusions
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I just went with a regular EVGA 970. I've never personally owned an evga but always heard good things about them as well as there warranty
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