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Destiny |OT4| Get your ass to the Vault of Glass and help Timmins find better pants
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Ruthless_Barbarian
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Yeah we got lucky. He just vanished into thin air.
I finished it solo, it's pretty easy. Use a hand cannon, sniper and machine gun.
MarshMellow96
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So after trying to play the RNG I've given the tower items some thought. Am I right in thinking that in order to afford the legendaries in the Tower, you'd potentially have to play 50 runs on the 20 Strike or 30 for the 22 Strike (I can't access the rest as my light level isn't high enough) to get enough marks to buy one item? On top of that you can only earn 100 marks a week, so it's going going to take a week and a half to earn enough to buy an item.
Then you need to do up to 15 bounties, of which you can only do a few a day, with at least 100 reputation to get the 1500 to rank up once, which you then have to do another two times to be a high enough rank to spend the marks on the guns.
And on top of that, the reason for me going for all this is to play a Raid that I can't actually play until I've done this multiple times to get my light level up or I simply get lucky?
Jeez Bungie.
Then you need to do up to 15 bounties, of which you can only do a few a day, with at least 100 reputation to get the 1500 to rank up once, which you then have to do another two times to be a high enough rank to spend the marks on the guns.
And on top of that, the reason for me going for all this is to play a Raid that I can't actually play until I've done this multiple times to get my light level up or I simply get lucky?
Jeez Bungie.
I am lucky to have a shotgun with the +2 Agility, and I specced my Striker Titan for maximum speed and armor -- it's wonderful.
figadapaura
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Does anybody need a level 27 Hunter to help with the final Raid boss? It's the only bit I haven't completed yet. :/
No.
I don't know if it's been statistically confirmed, but the higher level you are the higher level drops you get and better chance at rares and legendaries. It's why at lvl 26 I get level 20 blues consistently and fairly frequent purples, where as at level 20-22 I kept getting level 16-17 blues constantly and no legendaries at all.
You really shouldn't even be farming until you have nearly all fully upgraded level 20 blues imo, which I think puts you around level 23 or 24.
I'm not saying your beloved random loot system shouldn't be in, I just think there should be something that rewards players for actually capping points in control (instead of playing like it's TDM) and performing better than others. Just like in every other game there is.
It's not just about you and your forced and unsatisfying idea of making players more 'equal'.
BMO = GOAT
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Anyone doing the daily heroic?
That would be true if loot had no bearing on pvp. But it does. The perks of purple gear make them superior to blue gear, flat out. So your effectiveness in pvp is not purely skill, though that is the largest factor, it relies on the loot you can get within it. And I'm not even going into Iron Banner here.
I agree that if the top 2 players on a given team were the only ones to get loot, it would not help the situation, however. Instead I believe if they were to weight the probability of getting rewarded toward the top two players and assure that at least one person below them gets something, then it would be more fair.
I am lucky to have a shotgun with the +2 Agility, and I specced my Striker Titan for maximum speed and armor -- it's wonderful.
I actually have both an auto-rifle and a shotgun with that perk. It's definitely nice.
Very lucky! Hopefully the same happens next week, haha.
Or you can play whichever mode you want at your own pace and reach the same point while having fun.
Twilight Gap
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no, the entire point of playing destiny's PvP is to earn crucible marks, faction rep and complete bounties. it's being treated as another means of progression, but when you're locked out of that progression until the reset there is little reason to return to it.
Diablohead
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I got locked in the Vault!
I was doing a story mission, when I noticed the light hit the door I ran through it.
Then...it closed
Because you entered the vault without clipping through using the sparrow could you follow the others or did it stick you in your own instance? Did you run in to see if the first chest was loaded?
shoulder tackle is so good
Looks super cheap and overpowered
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It's not nearly as easy as you imply.
You'd think so, but if you come at someone straight on you'll just get shotgunned in the face. It's only really useful if you surprise someone or get them from a blindspot, though a shotgun has the same utility.
I'm saying you need to put a decent amount of time into this game if you want to have good gear to be able to do the high level stuff.
That's my face when I see all of these pics of lovely loot the RNGoddess dropped on others. "Oh, I got an exotic and two legendaries out of my 4 purple drops hee hee hee"
Probably because that's exactly what it is.
Bungie needs to balance some of these supers or just make PvP playlist without supers.
Legitimately heard the Cryptatch say "you won't be disappointed"
Bungie is taking the piss with that one lmao
They need to do something about the strike playlist, some sort of tweak so you don't get the same strike multiple times in a row. Last night got Mars, Moon, Moon, Mars (and of course on xbox so only 1 mars strike...). This may just be an issue because there are only 5 strikes.
Also, the gameworld is gorgeous compared to something like Borderlands, but is the reason it is so much more limited in scope simply because it has to look that good instead of being stylistic and huge compared to something like BL? I don't think there is even as much space to play in as vanilla BL. Then looking back at something like WoW's launch, that game world was absolutely gigantic.
Also, the gameworld is gorgeous compared to something like Borderlands, but is the reason it is so much more limited in scope simply because it has to look that good instead of being stylistic and huge compared to something like BL? I don't think there is even as much space to play in as vanilla BL. Then looking back at something like WoW's launch, that game world was absolutely gigantic.
Shoulder tackle isn't even a super, what are you talking about
Legitimately heard the Cryptatch say "you won't be disappointed"
His lines are gold. Like when he says "Pity your enemies, guardian" when he decrypts a legendary into a blue.
Legitimately heard the Cryptatch say "you won't be disappointed"
Almost as good as "we don't get a lot of those around here" to my shit warlock bond that I've gotten 30 times.
I hate how people need rewards to feel validated as opposed to just enjoying and trying to win the matches.
Makes me think this article is right, this game is for adults.
On a marginally related note, I love how, when I play this game, I never hear any online harassment. Nobody is gay or a bitch or a ni**er. It's absolute magic. I realize this is what has kept me from playing online games these days. Nice choice Bungie!
BMO = GOAT
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3 if you win, 2 if you lose
Jest Chillin
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The incentive for doing well, that you're looking for, will be present in both the Iron Banner (which awards points to the winning team but not the losing team) in that once you've earned enough reputation with IB wins, you'll be able to buy 1-time only rewards.
There's also the eventual arrival of the Trials of Osiris, which requires a pre-made Fireteam and a purchase of entry. Winners earn rank and exclusive rewards while losing teams lose access to the game mode and are forced to buy entry again if they want to continue to play the mode.
While those modes haven't yet happened in the live game, I don't see a reason to think they won't eventually be.
Yeah, its also far from OP. It takes 2 secs of sprinting to activate and it is only active for ~5secs, you have to stop and start sprinting again to reactivate it.
Well, you can reach lvl. 24 by only having rare gear (once it's upgraded), which you'll earn in a few runs on the lvl. 22 playlist, which unlocks the lvl. 24, which gives you 25 rep and 6 marks for each run. Add on to that the guaranteed 300 rep from the bounties per day (up to 600 depending on the bounties), and you should be able to get to rank 2 in about a week. At that point you can buy armor (65 for head/feet/arms, 130 for body (i think)), or save your marks to get the weapons once you reach lvl. 3.
The biggest frustration that people run into on this game is to focus to much on the end goal without looking at the in-between. I didn't get my first legendary until I had all rare gear fully leveled for 3 days, then I got one on a strike I was doing to get rep for the vanguard.
The thing is, control in the game is not designed like control/domination/whatever in other games. In fact if you're running around solely capping flags, you're not playing it right.
It is essentially team death match, the control points are there solely as modifiers to make your kills worth more points. It should reward players for defending points which it does, as the strategy by design is to take two points, defend them, and get kills. I don't know why people go to another point when they have 2 already, it fucks up the spawns and spreads out the defense too thin. Only go for it if the other team is complete garbage.
Let me explain how the shoulder tackle works: Basically, you have to sprint for about 4 seconds straight, then you have about a 4 second window in which to do the shoulder tackle, or else it won't work. It does not give you any damage resistance, so if someone sees you, you're taking a shotgun blast to the face before you touch them. It's really not that useful, fun, but the shotgun is a safer bet.
Typomancer
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Ive found the fastest way to get Vanguard marks is to chain the public events on Earth during patrols. There is a route you can take so you can do an event (+4 marks for each) every ten or fifteen minutes.
And while you do the public events on Earth, you can do things like the kill everything missions as well as collect spinmetal (which you can either keep for upgrading or turn in for more Vanguard marks or even Crucible marks). Trust me, its a lot faster (and easier) than doing Strikes.
Heres the route I follow:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2gltxy/how_i_maxed_out_my_vanguard_marks_in_under_4/
And if you have two buddies, you can get extremely fast reputation gains just by doing patrol missions in different areas. Heres the guide:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheG...he_fastest_reputation_farming_method_for_all/
As for buying stuff with the marks, you can get gloves, chest, or boots for 65 marks each. I recommend getting one (chest armor) on the first week, then getting the boots and gloves the second week. By then your Light level will be further along (possibly taking you to level 24 or 25 after some upgrading) and youll be able to do the more difficult challenges. Not a huge grind at all to be honest.
Twilight Gap
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the game is designed around rewards and validation, from the chime of killing an enemy to leveling up banners. All very deliberate "feel good" mechanics that feed into its loot nature.
yes, both of these modes should hopefully sate the players who want their contribution to have more meaningful rewards. Unfortunately for me, those playlists both have level advantages, which just about throws out the ounce of consistent balance that's been keeping me playing the PvP. i obviously recognize that is a personal limitation though.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Anyone got any tips on getting over the level 24 hump? Been stuck on this level for a minute and I really want to get into the level 26+ raids.
Been playing multiplayer for several hours every other day and the highest level light on an armor I see is 15, no more.... should I be doing something else?
Been playing multiplayer for several hours every other day and the highest level light on an armor I see is 15, no more.... should I be doing something else?
figadapaura
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I want that so bad ;_;
MarshMellow96
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I've already played through the game at my own pace. I don't mind doing the same 5 strikes over and over again so I can do the same Strikes with better guns and cooler looking armour, but with barely any drops during gameplay and the mission completion screen not giving much better, being told the alternative is to play a 30 minute mission for 3 marks when I need 150 starts to get a little tedious even if the base game is fun.
EDIT: Thanks Typomancer, I'll have a look into that event run tomorrow.
Admiral Woofington
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raise your rep with your respective faction/group, get as many marks as possible each week, then buy your legendary equipment. Don't depend on the game to give it to you.
I play pvp because I like playing pvp. :/
Pvp progression is faction points. That's it.
The random drops are just like random drops in pve. They're a random chance at a boost, a lottery that everyone is a part of. It's in pvp so people who play pvp more than pve have as fair a shot as pve players at the random chance stuff.
When I do a strike and everyone gets a loot, I can have 150 kills, no deaths, and get trash. My friend can have 10 kills and 20 deaths and get an exotic. This is the same system as pvp. It isn't a reward system, it's a roll of a dice.
This makes perfect sense when you weight it all up. You need to stop looking at the end game drops as your incentive to play. If you only played pve for the random drops you'd soon be pulling your hair out in frustration. This is why farming engrams for progression items is a silly idea too.
^its dumb because the game is gated by the RNG not performance. of course people are going to leave in droves or lose interest when you don't reward anything outside of participation
"pvp is its own reward" no it isn't. not in a loot game where progress is entirely determined by loot from level 20 on.
nerf everything that has ever killed me
"pvp is its own reward" no it isn't. not in a loot game where progress is entirely determined by loot from level 20 on.
nerf everything that has ever killed me
bigwinnerx
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Having a great time. Level 20, 12 hours played, 10h on PvP. No farming, no doing things I don't want to do, though still need to do story starting on Venus.
I don't think I've tried making the game into something it isn't and would hopefully stop before that point.
I don't think I've tried making the game into something it isn't and would hopefully stop before that point.
pick up bounties while you're doing whatever you normally do, they'll help you rep up with the vanguard/crucible and let you straight up buy legendaries rather than rely on RNG. It takes a while, but it's worth it, and much less frustrating than turning in 5 legendary engrams and getting nothing but blues and 2 Motes of light.
Just gotta be patient... sigh.
The incentive is to win.
You also get more marks and rep if your team wins.
If you are playing for the dice roll at the end good luck. I've maxed my crucible marks both weeks and haven't gotten shit.
In fact I've only gotten 2 legendary primary weapons from loot the entire game. Bought my legendary armour with crucible marks.
But the game is full of things which reward people for achievement...
Why shouldn't it be the same in Crucible?
(I would be quite happy with your suggestion though, for now. Shaders are one of my favourite things to get)
BipolarBear629
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shoulder tackle is so good
This is exactly why I don't think I can play pvp anymore. Way too many insta-kills involved.
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