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Destiny |OT4| Get your ass to the Vault of Glass and help Timmins find better pants
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However long everyone wants to keep going! I'm fine for several hours myself.
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Jest Chillin
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The rep and currency gear is better than the dungeon dropped gear in WoW. If you run the dungeons every day and only use the dropped gear and zero rep and currency gear, you'll be severely underpowered in a Raid. Dungeons drops are not the primary progression into Raids. The rep gear is. The dungeon drops just make the subsequent dungeon runs that much easier. This is the entire purpose behind the way Dungeon Dailies work.
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kittens
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Does anyone else have a hard time sprinting in this game sometimes? Sometimes I have to click the stick four or five times for it to register, and it seems like it's far more likely to work if it's not tilted at all. This is the only game that has this issue. I'm on XB1, if that makes a difference.
Allez Phill
Banned
I got it and its pretty fucking amazing. It headshots so easily making it possible to out shoot AR users.
I have the same issue on Xbox 360. It gets me killed so much.
Twilight Gap
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PS4, same problem for me
Pretty much. In WoW, all you need is dungeon blues to do your first raid when a new expansion hits, and the gear you have from those dungeons is enough to kill the bosses of the first raid. You don't need to rep grind if you dont want to (as I have never rep grind unless mandatory) and I have plenty of server first raid boss kills with dungeon blues.
What do you actually require to be able to progress right now...?
This is wrong. It's factually incorrect
Did you read my guides? When you say 2 weeks I guess you must mean 8 days- for the reset/weekend vendor, I'm assuming- but even so, you can get quite far with the 200 marks available to you over the course of one week."Lucking" into progress is brutal in this game. It's not viable. Some people are lucky and get lucky, but for the most part, the average person can't come anywhere close to relying on rng for progression in destiny.
edit: ^there aren't a lot of useful comparisons to other games in terms of destiny's progression. it's obviously not that much like wow.
When are we starting again? I have to do something for the next 30 minutes if I can. If not eeeeeeeeeeeeeh...
figadapaura
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That insta-kill is bullshit.
8 pacific, as I said earlier!
MidEvlDed
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Cool, request sent.
Yes. I thought it was just me. I'm on PS4. Seems to also affect shooting for me when I try it as well (like a stutter step and I can't fire). IDK. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Thats not the point. Ofcourse its better!
The point is you have to get gear to get more gear in WoW, and thats attained at the beginning by gearing from boss drops in 5 mans.
Bosses dont drop loot in Destiny. If they did, running shitty strikes over and over would make sense. As it stands now, it is sorely lacking. The currency in WoW is the goal eventually, but you have to get into max level purples from 5 mans before you can do anything else. There is a clear goal when gearing up in wow, one that has steady progression by getting gear from bosses.
Destiny is Rep up, or roll the dice. And when they limit our rep marks, it stagnates the flow, and causes the fanbase to feel underpowered and impatient. If they put in boss drops, we start to have a clear goal, and something consistent to do to get gear.
If you have been sprinting for a little bit and stop, you have to wait a few seconds before you can start sprinting again.
the raid bosses drop loot, though I don't think they have loot tables the way you want. there is gear you can only get in the raid though.
anyway it's really different than wow. not a useful comparison, imo
BoxManLocke
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Man, I was happy to get my first exotic bounty, but it turns out this thing is just a fucking inconvenience, forcing me to grind on PVP all day.
I've got to achieve 500 void "damage" (whatever that means), and I don't have a primary weapon with void, or a shotgun, or a fusion rifle. I only have a sniper rifle which is useless in most maps, so I spent all day spamming the combined arms mode. I'm at 308/500 right now.
All of that for a hand cannon I'm probably gonna dismantle. The thirst for ascendant shards is killing me.
I've got to achieve 500 void "damage" (whatever that means), and I don't have a primary weapon with void, or a shotgun, or a fusion rifle. I only have a sniper rifle which is useless in most maps, so I spent all day spamming the combined arms mode. I'm at 308/500 right now.
All of that for a hand cannon I'm probably gonna dismantle. The thirst for ascendant shards is killing me.
Mostly shards
That makes no sense at all.. please clarify. literally not a clue what you meant
Oh, sorry, mistype. I meant Xur's weekly exotic for the titan class was a helmet. The word 'legendary' stuck in there was an accident.
That's a terrible way to try to farm strange coins
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Are they really? Maybe I'm misinformed, but I had been PvP-ing obsessively since launch and had a store of only about 8 strange coins AFTER doing the weekly strike.
I had been doing moon chest runs for the filaments for the upgrades, as well.
And the cave frequently pours out into a public event, so I was actively completing events as I was farming. Also, how do you find public events normally? I'd like to know how to get more of them.
I went in and did the math on this, and I believe I DID need that exotic (or a supply of ascendant shards, which I could not get in one night).
Check it out, here is my gear.
HELM OF NO TOMORROW (Legendary): Base light, 18. Upgraded to 22 light, which is as far as I can go without needing ascendant materials.
GAUNTLETS OF NO TOMORROW (Legendary): Base light, 18. Upgraded to 22 light, which is as far as that can go without the ascendant materials.
RAKU FULCRUM TYPE 1 (level 20 Blue):15 light, fully upgraded.
TOUTATIS TYPE 2 (Level 20 blue): 15 light, fully upgraded.
That all adds up to 74 light, which is 2 light from level 26. That is where I stand right now. I thought my best bet was to get the exotic, as that would give me that nudge I needed. Let me know If I got anything wrong here.
I was very disappointed in the Thorn at first, but I'm growing to like it as I level it.
...that said, it's being junked as soon as I loot a Hawkmoon or Last Word.
The Librarian
Banned
I wonder if Bungie's intention was for players to focus on buying their gear and not relying on the drops.
I had a choice of three bounties and passed on that one because I suck at PvP. Make sure you Google the different bounties when you have a selection. PEACE.
Poodlestrike
Banned
How important are the weapon bonuses (increased reload, ammo capacity) from armor in the Raid? I like my stat spread, but the bonuses are all over the place.
I'd certainly hope so, otherwise they totally screwed the pooch.
I'd certainly hope so, otherwise they totally screwed the pooch.
happens to me all the time too, also on xbox one.
PedroLumpy
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Things are going to get very ugly, very quickly. I pity the people getting into Destiny 1 month, 3 months, 6 months from now.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I'm interested!
The Xtortionist
Member
I really need a better weapon
Currently level 27 with about 50 hours played and all of my weapons are level 20 blues. Got the exotic bounty for Bad Juju (which is apparently shit) but it's 20 strikes and 10k PvP score away, anyway. I'm level 2 in FWC and not fond of Crucible to begin with, and I'm barely rank 2 in Vanguard so the opportunity to buy weapons there is incredibly far away. Fuck grinding patrols. Vanguard strikes should be worth far more rep, like at least 2x if they want it to be comparable to Crucible rep gain rates. I feel like the game shits on PvE players in terms of progression.
sigh
Currently level 27 with about 50 hours played and all of my weapons are level 20 blues. Got the exotic bounty for Bad Juju (which is apparently shit) but it's 20 strikes and 10k PvP score away, anyway. I'm level 2 in FWC and not fond of Crucible to begin with, and I'm barely rank 2 in Vanguard so the opportunity to buy weapons there is incredibly far away. Fuck grinding patrols. Vanguard strikes should be worth far more rep, like at least 2x if they want it to be comparable to Crucible rep gain rates. I feel like the game shits on PvE players in terms of progression.
sigh
The Librarian
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Another Cryptarch rank!
Jest Chillin
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You're not even guaranteed a drop that you can use from a boss in the 5 mans. That's not the primary path to progression. Many bosses and indeed, entire dungeons don't drop gear that your class can use. The daily system works just like strike playlist in the sense that it provides rep and currency towards the appropriate vendor gear.
And WoW caps players just as much, if not moreso than Destiny does as well. They just cap it per day rather than per week. Many times after a weeks worth of Dailies, you only have the currency for a single piece of gear. To hit the appropriate gear score, most people use a mix of the lesser boss dropped gear that they were lucky enough to get AND a few pieces of the rep gear.
Destiny doesn't give guaranteed loot drops on bosses but their is a higher chance of gear dropped from every other mob in the strike (and the world at large). If you've maxed your marks and earned the rep then in less than a week you can buy 2 pieces of Legendary gear. That plus level 20 blues that are upgraded will easily put you past level 24. The only way to stagnate at a level like 24 would be not maxing your marks and depending on rng drops in the world.
Allez Phill
Banned
There are too many one hit kill things in the Crucible.
I read the guys and even told people to read your guides. While people were farming venus I was telling others how to join factions and make the most of it.What do you actually require to be able to progress right now...?
This is wrong. It's factually incorrect
"Lucking" into progress is brutal in this game. It's not viable. Some people are lucky and get lucky, but for the most part, the average person can't come anywhere close to relying on rng for progression in destiny.
edit: ^there aren't a lot of useful comparisons to other games in terms of destiny's progression. it's obviously not that much like wow.
If you get a weapon, chest, and gauntlet piece - how many marks have you spent? A weapon alone is 150. Chest, legs, and arms are each 65. You're gonna be hurting climbing that mountain for a while unless you raise rep in a faction AND across both the crucible and vanguard vendors. I wouldn't mind it, but again - seeing people get exotics just for showing up makes that grind feel worse than it even is.
All but one of my legendary drops have been useful. Everything else has been either a dupe (as in, armor piece not better than one I already have) or unusable by main class. I could've bought items from Xur, but spending strange coins to replace items I've already spent marks on is redundant and wasteful.
I mean... its just a bad system. Its fixable, but its bad. And you only need to get lucky one time to really get yourself over the level 26 hump. I could absolutely drop the 12 remaining ascendant shards to get my legendary chest piece maxed out - but I shouldn't be essentially forced into that pricey predicament.
BoxManLocke
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I was very disappointed in the Thorn at first, but I'm growing to like it as I level it.
...that said, it's being junked as soon as I loot a Hawkmoon or Last Word.
Unfortunately I'm not a hand-cannon kinda guy. Hawkmoon is fucking gorgeous though, I might keep it if I get it.
I've currently got Hex Caster Arc as primary and it's perfect for my style. Combined with Broken Truth LR-1, I really don't feel the need to change weapons.
On another subject, 9 times out of ten when I go for a Tiger Strike, which is supposed to be random, I get the fucking Phogoth strike first. Does that happen to anyone else ?
I've had to bail on people at the beginning of strikes because of that and I hate it, but I simply cannot stand this fucking guy anymore.
Yup, I should have done that.
i found a gunslinger bro. perfect example of why i love the class. even the scoreboard looks the same - loot and all.
now i just need to find that hand cannon.
This is what happen in a crucible i was in like the 2nd or third day of release.
I get nothing, bad players get rewarded with an amazing weapon that I can't even buy.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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got a legendary sniping rifle, sucks because i really want a shotgun but oh well. ill take any grace that fucker wish to give
also level 10 crypto rank, forgot i reached lvl 2 for crucible so couldnt use the bounties and shit to lvl up my new pieces of legendary armor.
also whats up with the stupid colors? i look like a cheap gundam
also level 10 crypto rank, forgot i reached lvl 2 for crucible so couldnt use the bounties and shit to lvl up my new pieces of legendary armor.
also whats up with the stupid colors? i look like a cheap gundam
The weekly strike got you 3? That'd be 5 probably from pvp theyn I guess. So you were 5 away...[/quote]
Okay, so far we're on the right track...
http://destinypublicevents.com/
Sadly, public events are the most likely roll for coins and ascendant materials both that you can do on a regular basis.
Couple things...
1) Did you buy that legendary helmet? ;_; Helms are way more marks than any other armor piece. nooooo. Because you had the helmet you'd also have to have replaced the piece you had already upgraded nooooo argh.
2) So you'd done two upgrades to each legendary. You're right. ONE MORE UPGRADE puts you at 26! ;_; I'm so sorry. So all of the remaining possible upgrades needed shards, eh? Definitely the route you can do soonest. how many are you missing? I can only recommend public events for them.
At the higher levels, content like the Daily Heroic Story gives you a guarantee of most ascendant materials.
3) How many motes of light did you have? A random roll for the chest piece, one in 3 shot you'd have WAY exceeded 26. Such better than cave farming ;_;
So right now, you're sitting at like, what, how many marks of each vendor?
Evil Beaver
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6+ hours of crucible today playing Control and Team Deathmatch. 6+ hours and my team only won a handful of times.
What am I doing with my life?
What am I doing with my life?
Xamtheking
Member
6+ hours of crucible apparently
BoxManLocke
Member
Most shaders I got really look like shit.
everyday math
Banned
This whole game is about buying shit to buy more shit TO BUY MORE SHIT.
The Rich get richer the poor get poorer.
Looking at you Cryptarch.
The Rich get richer the poor get poorer.
Looking at you Cryptarch.
Poodlestrike
Banned
God, I hate those arm pieces. The shaders don't help, but those shoulders...
Sadism, duh.
The first part has not been true for a while. Look at loot tables from 5 mans in MoP. Every instance has some piece of gear your class can use. Sure maybe not every boss, but yes every instance. While daily quests are capped daily as in their name, You can get your weeks worth of Valor/honor/conquest/justice points in a single day. Even rep gains almost always have no limit in terms of killing mobs and getting gains (up to certain levels in some cases but in others you can kill mobs all day for rep f you want). Again, I have personally cleared raid bosses at the start of expansions in blues and leveling greens (and so where the other 24 people in the raid with me). We had no time to finish rep grinds and still could kill bosses.
Yeah, there are quite a few. I was trying to think of all of them earlier when I was coding.
Interceptors, sniper rifle (somewhat), shotgun (somewhat), titan pound, hunter golden gun, hunter blade dancer, warlock void blast, fusion rifles (somewhat, does this count as one hit).
Its just the worst when you are in an intense firefight, on a streak, or get the drop on someone and then you die instantly
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