Interesting, I was always under the impression the 570 was faster. So it looks like going from a 570 to 970 would be double the performance roughly.
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Interesting, I was always under the impression the 570 was faster. So it looks like going from a 570 to 970 would be double the performance roughly.
paperspace
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Sorry, it was a bad joke
I tried some Dead Rising 3 and Far Cry 3. Very nice results, even though DR3 is still pretty badly optimized (fluctuated between 50 and 100fps).Well, that sucks balls for me.
Conkerkid11
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As mentioned on the last page, this is already an outdated benchmark, and it seems to have been resolved through driver updates.
Dusktildawn48
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someone explain why people would want blower style over whats been released?
SLI in a Silverstone FT-02, case has a lot of air intake but limited exhaust.
Blowers exhaust heat from the case, where as open air coolers circulate it inside. For some, this impacts their overclocks. For small cases the blower is better.
brotkasten
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Personally I can't say I'd want that, but the Palit GTX970 with the blower style fan is the cheapest you can get here (309€
. I still haven't seen any reports on that card and I wonder how noisy it is.e: Others with a similar fan are the Galax and the Gainward GTX970. They all have a short PCB, too.
It makes the cards longer than they need to be.
I'm not sure.
Microsoft Details Direct3D 11.3 & 12 New Rendering Features
GTX 980/970 support Direct3D11.3 in hardware and that's part of Direct3D 12, but there will be levels of features, with more to come once DirectX12 / Direct3D12 is complete.
Also read the comments to the article.
What do you guys think?
Conkerkid11
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Damn man, and I'm feeling bad about wanting to jump from a 770 Windforce to a 970. This is gonna be such a huge improvement on your end.
mordecaii83
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That would already be like at least a 3x performance increase... I'd certainly be happy with that!
I had no issues running SLI 460s years ago that weren't blower coolers in my FT-02, and they were higher TDP than the 970 is.
Was bored and did some Fire strike testing. Seems like +204 on the core is the highest I can reach without a modded bios for some more voltage. Won't be running this clock for gaming, but 1533MHz is pretty impressive. My friend wasn't as lucky with his card unfortunately and can only hit +130 on his MSI 970.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4116667?
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4116667?
RadioactiveLobster
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I felt the same way. After much internal debating that I could not justify the upgrade for $329, due to the fact I don't upgrade unless a part is dead, I pulled the trigger. I was also hoping to wait it out until Pascal, but with some backlog of games that would take advantage of the new processing power and future games (Witcher 3, Arkham Knight) I caved.
Maybe I will feel buyers remorse if AMD comes out with a 20nm product that overshoots the 970/980 on Wednesday (pure speculation on my part), but I figured such a card would not fall into the $300-$400 price range.
TC McQueen
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I've seen no reviews, but several pages I've seen say Palit uses the same kind of 0db fan tech that Asus and MSI use on their 970s.
For anyone interested in a Zotac 970, here's one review I found.
Self_Destructive
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Can't wait for drivers to mature, among other things such as modded bios' to really unleash the potential of these cards.
Can't wait to see how TW3 runs on my 980sli setup
Can't wait to see how TW3 runs on my 980sli setup
Ding Ding.
I've a big case but I still prefer the blower design. The main reason why I go with the blower design is also because it's much easier to clean the dust buildup.
Dusktildawn48
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when overclocking 2 970s with msi afterburner, i change the settings i want and does that change both cards?
I've got an ASUS DirectCU II 680 OC in my PC at the moment. I've actually never used a blower card in the case and have never given a damn about the orientation of the heatpipes - completely disregarding Silverstone's manual, I'm fully aware. I've never had issues.
The Gigabyte Windforce cooler (I had a GB Windforce 460 in there at one time SLI'd with an ASUS 460) is a three-fan cooler which just makes the things too long given the fans directly below it in the case.
I dont really think it will be a "problem" , just that a blower style would be a better choice.
I wouldnt really hesitate putting in an aftermarket style heatsink, but all things being the same..
You don't happen to have a local Microcenter, do you? They always have shit tons of the EVGA blowers, much to my chagrin.
TC McQueen
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From what I hear, dedicated Physx cards aren't worth the trouble.
Is the blower style the stock one fan silver case?
man i wish i had a Microcenter
Yes, that's the one.
It's certainly not worth it to buy a card solely for PhysX, but keeping your old card around isn't a bad idea, provided you have an 8x slot (and PSU headroom) to spare.
Edit: From top to bottom:
- PhysX off
- PhysX High + GT 640
- PhysX Low
- PhysX High
TC McQueen
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Same here. All I've got is TigerDirect.
You can still overclock a non-k a bit.
brotkasten
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Interesting. Maybe the Palit won't be such a bad buy after all.
The Zotac you linked is the second version they offer. The first one has the same cooler, but stock clocks and the small PCB.
Winterblink
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Welp, looks like my 660ti is due for an upgrade then.
Spazznid
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Are... are you sure? I could max it out a while ago...
Woffls
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Those numbers are quite promising. I'll have a 750 Ti SC lying around after my next upgrade, and presumably that would be a good dedicated Physx card due to the power efficiency.
I ordered it today
Did you? Are the stock fans noisy?
I replaced the 2 120mm intake fans with 3 120mm fans. I left the 140mm fan in the back. You should still be fine though. It's a really good case.
I'm in the exact same situation, and didn't even think about the possibility of using a 750 ti to compute physx. Was going to use it to give to my family's computer, but I think I may just get them another one around Christmas and use that in my machine.
Then again, 600w PSU is probably a bit on the low side for something like that.
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In regards to the whole blower design for SLI, will I be ok running two Asus 970 Strix in a Cooler Master Cosmos 2? It's a pretty big case.
Rentahamster
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I see. I guess it's a safe bet to say that most high end aftermarket GPU coolers are using powder type heat pipes so that the gravity/orientation issue isn't a problem anymore.
May I ask what your current GPU setup is, and if you've ever used an aftermarket cooler on your GPU in the FT02?
At least I'm not the only one doing that! Selling the 770 to a friend building his first PC is how I rationalize it.
Yeah, I'd planned on keeping my generic 670 for PhysX but grew cold on the idea when I realised that it'd have to go in a 4x slot, however since I wouldn't make all that much money from selling it (the warranty expired back in March while my EVGA 670 still has a year left), I may just stash it away for the future.
GTX 780, and yes i once had a a 7970 with an Artic Cooling Acellero Twin Turbo on it.
Windom Earle
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Personally I can't say I'd want that, but the Palit GTX970 with the blower style fan is the cheapest you can get here (309€
e: Others with a similar fan are the Galax and the Gainward GTX970. They all have a short PCB, too.
It makes the cards longer than they need to be.
Judging from the temps here, the Palit seems to run a bit too hot...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_970_SC_ACX_Cooler/29.html
FT02 chat here. Never had any trouble with any aftermarket GPU heatsink.
MSI announced cheap plastic shroud versions of the GTX970s and 980s that use the GTX980 reference cooler so if you want a blower, that's the one to wait for. All the others are pretty shit, EVGA seems to be reusing the GTX670 blower which sucked ass.
MSI announced cheap plastic shroud versions of the GTX970s and 980s that use the GTX980 reference cooler so if you want a blower, that's the one to wait for. All the others are pretty shit, EVGA seems to be reusing the GTX670 blower which sucked ass.
Well shit that changes things.. maybe i'll just go with the MSI 4G
copelandmaster
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Just a followup to eliminate any confusion:
This is a new version of that benchmark scene that takes advantage of the newer rendering enhancements in the most recent version of Octane. The rest of that thread tells the whole story.
Regardless, the 970 is a stellar value if all you do is game. Not to mention that its not that far behind the the previous generation in terms of rendering power. I'd say its a fair trade.
mordecaii83
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Well you're looking at close to 3x the performance along with much less heat, noise, and power consumption. I'd say absolutely yes.
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