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COMICS! |OT| September 2014. Means well, but is easily distracted and can get lost.

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Sir, I think your reading comprehension needs some work. Is not real hate. Is just 'enjoying comics'.
Oooookaaaaayyyyy :-D

Don't waste your time at this point Jedeye is just
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CBR annotated the final page from Doomed 2:
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What's wrong with the current crew of writers? I feel Green Lantern is the weakest title of that corner of the DCU, but Van Jensen has been killing it on GLC.

I don't think the books are good and aside from Soule I don't think the writers even really grasp the characters. If you like them, more power to you, but that line is (sadly) dead to me at this point.
 
For me, it's been too many events. One corps destroying crisis after the other. Variety makes things more interesting, lets get some space cops walking the beat for a little while.

I doubt that'd change with a new team of writers though. Robert Venditti is not a bad writer, but his work on Green Lantern is severely lacking. I don't know if editorial is to blame, but I'd wager a guess that it is. Solo Green Lantern is the weakest of the GL books, no question. Just look at Billy Tan's art; it's inconsistent and sloppy. Solo GL should be at the forefront of the GL books but sadly it's a shadow of its former self.
 
Somehow, someday, I'll find a game I have the money/time for to play with you. :P
Just let me know!

Next two days off. Let's wreck it. Grab Korupt again along with Zombine and have him single handedly carry us with his professional e-sports experience skills.
Hahahaha!!!!

Btw anyone picking up physical copies of Secret Avegngers 8 or Storm 3? My weekly digital code seller didn't get those two in :(
 
It killed 4 of them. Well I say killed, but it wiped one out of existence and turned one of them from black to white and then made it so I never even owned the other two.

I honestly don't particularly care, it's just comics. But I'm bored and there are posts to reply to, already stated as much on this page. Argue with me if you like, it's a good time and I still have an hour to kill.

Part of the reason I love DC is they're kind enough to help make it easier to sort through their continuity. Marvel's way too vague about what happened when, whereas DC is all 'do you hate us now? Give it three years and we'll reboot again.'

That and do crazy one-off issues like 'Swamp Thing goes on a quest to the bacteria Kingdom, LOL.'
 
I don't think the books are good and aside from Soule I don't think the writers even really grasp the characters. If you like them, more power to you, but that line is (sadly) dead to me at this point.

I couldn't disagree more. Van Jensen and Justin Jordan have given John Stewart and Kyle Rayner purpose. Their characterisations have been absolutely on point. I'm sad to see Soule go, but GL aside, the line is far from mediocre.
 
I couldn't disagree more. Van Jensen and Justin Jordan have given John Stewart and Kyle Rayner purpose. Their characterisations have been absolutely on point. I'm sad to see Soule go, but GL aside, the line is far from mediocre.

I COULD maybe see Venditti not being quite as good as Johns... but even then I think he's trying to have a more ensemble feel to the main title. And I do really like the idea of Hal in charge of the Green Lanterns. He's really not very good at it, and yet storyline wise there's a lot of potential there.

Plus the Sinestro comic rocks. FE particularly.
 
Part of the reason I love DC is they're kind enough to help make it easier to sort through their continuity. Marvel's way too vague about what happened when, whereas DC is all 'do you hate us now? Give it three years and we'll reboot again.'

That and do crazy one-off issues like 'Swamp Thing goes on a quest to the bacteria Kingdom, LOL.'

I can see where you're coming from but for me the rebooting has cheapened the universe somewhat. Yeah, Crisis 1 was a reboot (arguably moreso than the new52) but the writers then spent 20 years sneaking that stuff in through the backdoor.

IMO, comics' strength compared to any other form of media (other than a soap opera like Eastenders) is the history behind the stories. Literally everything is filtered through decades of other stories and there's no way, as a reader, you can know everything. Which means that coming across a new vein of continuity quickly becomes very exciting, reminding you of how it felt when you were a kid (or new). When i was little, the only Batman books I'd read were A Death in the Family and Knightfall and I managed to piece together some weird continuity in my head that was frequently wrong but enthralling and exciting to be a part of.

I get the same feeling today reading Marvel since I never grew up with it (I was 100% DC for about 15 years). So now when I read about the celestials or various Avengers villains and characters I know that it's being informed by decades of history, especially with someone like Remender writing, he's a proper longbox raider.

I think decade-spanning continuity is a strength of the medium and I feel that DC really have flattened out and broken a previously very vibrant universe (and there's only two of these in the entire history of storytelling! DCU and Marvel 616! Rare and special). I think these things are largely self policing and semi-sentient (such a Moz fanboy...) so I have faith that it will snap back eventually, but first the corporate supervillain must be brought under control a bit.

You know the worst thing? DC think you're stupid. Have a think about that.
 
I COULD maybe see Venditti not being quite as good as Johns... but even then I think he's trying to have a more ensemble feel to the main title. And I do really like the idea of Hal in charge of the Green Lanterns. He's really not very good at it, and yet storyline wise there's a lot of potential there.

Plus the Sinestro comic rocks. FE particularly.

There's definitely a lot of potential for character and narrative development with Hal in charge of the GLC, but I don't feel that Venditti has proven himself capable of reaching it. The pacing of events one after another has undermined the strengths of his writing. That said, the upcoming God Head event is a bold direction for the GL books and I'm honestly looking forward to seeing where GL goes from there.

I haven't read Sinestro yet! I'm trade waiting because I couldn't afford another monthly. I've been reading Cullen's Magneto though and if it's on par with that title, I can't wait.
 
I still think its not about continuity, DC just lose in talent acquiring war atm.. that simple.

You guys seriously think thing going be fine again if they go back to old 52 again? with mediocre fuck like Scott Lobdell still assigned to many book? HAH!

Seriously, how many upper tier writer in popularity that DC use recently? they even lose Soule lately, they pretty much only had Morrison, Lamire, Snyder and Johns in their arsenal. And their 2nd-3rd tier is pretty much disastrous.. I think I take Dan Slott over majority of them.
 
I can see where you're coming from but for me the rebooting has cheapened the universe somewhat. Yeah, Crisis 1 was a reboot (arguably moreso than the new52) but the writers then spent 20 years sneaking that stuff in through the backdoor.

I get the same feeling today reading Marvel since I never grew up with it (I was 100% DC for about 15 years). So now when I read about the celestials or various Avengers villains and characters I know that it's being informed by decades of history, especially with someone like Remender writing, he's a proper longbox raider.

I think decade-spanning continuity is a strength of the medium and I feel that DC really have flattened out and broken a previously very vibrant universe (and there's only two of these in the entire history of storytelling! DCU and Marvel 616! Rare and special). I think these things are largely self policing and semi-sentient (such a Moz fanboy...) so I have faith that it will snap back eventually, but first the corporate supervillain must be brought under control a bit.

You know the worst thing? DC think you're stupid. Have a think about that.

Eh, Marvel requires ignoring a lot of stuff for stories to work. Like how AvX only works if you ignore five decades of The Avengers/Shield not giving a shit about sentinels, or Genosha being destroyed... and if you ignore how Daredevil and She-Hulk, two lawyers, would never agree to an invasion of a nation.

Not to say I disliked AvX. I enjoyed it. It's just that a lot of events like that and Civil War require conveniently forgetting a lot of established history.

The universes get too big. That's the problem. Fifty years of continuity means they have to outright ignore certain things to tell the stories. Whereas the New 52, when it works, hs a logical throughline underneath all the books. Like how Superman/WW 3 takes place pre Trinity War, and Steve Trevor lies that he ran into the JLA through sheer luck when looking for Zod.
 
There's definitely a lot of potential for character and narrative development with Hal in charge of the GLC, but I don't feel that Venditti has proven himself capable of reaching it. The pacing of events one after another has undermined the strengths of his writing. That said, the upcoming God Head event is a bold direction for the GL books and I'm honestly looking forward to seeing where GL goes from there.

I haven't read Sinestro yet! I'm trade waiting because I couldn't afford another monthly. I've been reading Cullen's Magneto though and if it's on par with that title, I can't wait.

I read the first Magneto. They seem somewhat similar in concept. Only difference is Sinestro doesn't get a power downgrade to make him work in the universe. If anything he's even more powerful than usual.
 
Oh man, Batman Eternal, I'm loving it!

Tim and Jason giving each other shit over Harper and Barbara haha, I really wish we saw more interactions like this with the Robins. Tim, Jason, Dick, Damian, all giving each other shit and kicking ass.
 
I still think its not about continuity, DC just lose in talent acquiring talent atm.. that simple.

You guys seriously think thing going be fine again if they go back to old 52 again? with mediocre fuck like Scott Lobdell still assigned to many book? HAH!

Seriously, how many upper tier writer in popularity that DC use recently? they even lose Soule lately, they pretty much only had Morrison, Lamire, Snyder and Johns in their arsenal. And their 2nd-3rd tier is pretty much disastrous.. I think I take Dan Slott over majority of them.

I totally agree with a lot of this, especially the mediocrity of Scott Lobdell, but I am pretty excited that Tim Seeley and Duggan are writing books for DC now/soon. They're really good.

Also, Dan Slott is writing Silver Surfer, and it's fucking great, so I'll happily take more books from him, outside of Spidey.
 
I totally agree with a lot of this, especially the mediocrity of Scott Lobdell, but I am pretty excited that Tim Seeley and Duggan are writing books for DC now/soon. They're really good.

Also, Dan Slott is writing Silver Surfer, and it's fucking great, so I'll happily take more books from him, outside of Spidey.

Unrelated to any of this, but I dunno if you saw it or not. Travel Foreman is working on a creator owned thing, check my posts a couple pages back for the details.
 
Unrelated to any of this, but I dunno if you saw it or not. Travel Foreman is working on a creator owned thing, check my posts a couple pages back for the details.

Holy shit--just saw those. Been gone for a week, but that is awesome news to come back to! Seems like he has no clue how those are going to be published? Damn I've missed seeing his art.
 
Holy shit--just saw those. Been gone for a week, but that is awesome news to come back to! Seems like he has no clue how those are going to be published? Damn I've missed seeing his art.

Yeah I haven't been able to dig up who is publishing it or any real details. Other than that tumblr, he has no online presence at all. He seems to have disappeared after a bunch of sites misreported those Doom Patrol pages as a failed pitch and he closed his twitter accounts down after talking about being blackballed from Marvel.
I'd love to see him back on a regular book, or even on an issue of Zero. Dude is so underrated.
 
I still think its not about continuity, DC just lose in talent acquiring war atm.. that simple.

You guys seriously think thing going be fine again if they go back to old 52 again? with mediocre fuck like Scott Lobdell still assigned to many book? HAH!

Seriously, how many upper tier writer in popularity that DC use recently? they even lose Soule lately, they pretty much only had Morrison, Lamire, Snyder and Johns in their arsenal. And their 2nd-3rd tier is pretty much disastrous.. I think I take Dan Slott over majority of them.

Nah man you're totally right, it's all about the talent. If DC had even one of either Hickman, Aaron, Remender, Fraction or even Slott, the DC would be in a very different place. Marvel's writing (and therefore idea-generating) line-up is ridiculously good right now.
 
Edge of Spider-Verse is so good, love the event so much.
Nah man you're totally right, it's all about the talent. If DC had even one of either Hickman, Aaron, Remender, Fraction or even Slott, the DC would be in a very different place. Marvel's writing (and therefore idea-generating) line-up is ridiculously good right now.

Pretty much, I still dream they can lure Fraction that seem bored on Marvel :(

Oh well.. but the october shake-up gave a little light, hope it can pave the way further.
 
Nah man you're totally right, it's all about the talent. If DC had even one of either Hickman, Aaron, Remender, Fraction or even Slott, the DC would be in a very different place. Marvel's writing (and therefore idea-generating) line-up is ridiculously good right now.

It'll be interesting to see where Marvel is at this point next year, should Marts lure over all the nonexclusive Bat writers and Fraction and Hickman leave (no proof on any of this, just a hunch).
 
It'll be interesting to see where Marvel is at this point next year, should Marts lure over all the nonexclusive Bat writers and Fraction and Hickman leave (no proof on any of this, just a hunch).


I'm 90% sure Hickman & Fraction are basically gone from Marvel unless something really insane changes in the next couple of months.
 
I'm 90% sure Hickman & Fraction are basically gone from Marvel unless something really insane changes in the next couple of months.
Fraction has been as good as gone since he was replaced by Soule on Infinity as soon as it even started.

I'll be sad to see Hickman go, I feel sorry for whoever takes over the Avengers after him.
 
Question - what's the best place to go to look for older comics outside of Amazon or rummaging through the stacks at the local comic store? Trying to track down a copy of Punisher MAX vol 3, and actually having a tough time tracking one down that isn't overpriced. Any thoughts on where I should be looking?
 
Fraction has been as good as gone since he was replaced by Soule on Infinity as soon as it even started.

I'll be sad to see Hickman go, I feel sorry for whoever takes over the Avengers after him.

I had an exchange with one of the Marvel editors about this on twitter and they basically confirmed it without confirming.

It's the nature of the business and I get the feeling a lot of those guys really want to do creator owned work at the moment and will eventually be back at Marvel.
 
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