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[toastyToast]

golden gun is legit op imo though lol

It's balanced out by how easy it is to fuck up

 

[Afrocious]

Since we're talking about modes, I'd like a vehicular-based raid.

If we're able to use our spaceships to fly around kind of like in Halo Reach, a raid consisting of us flying around doing things would be damn great and would kinda fulfill a dream I had when I began raiding few years back.

 

[Diablohead]

I 'd like to see supers not instakill but do enough damage in an area over a tick or two to kill, so a titans super would strip everyone's shield but the aftermath would get the kill, same with warlocks nova bomb.

It's a bit too late to change much as the game is balanced around quick kills, I doubt we will ever see an AR nerf, bungie never really do much with weapons after release.

 

[Hawkian]

I've shot a bladedancer with handcannons, scout rifles (which suck up close) and shotguns to little effect, my titan's melee barrier doesn't feel that great but I never really get a chance to enable the thing. I've had a good shotgun and melee into bladedancers before leaving them in the red so maybe I missed their face? dunno.

I think their movement might be why they feel so OP, they can attack and zoom around faster then sprinting, even fly with the skill.

Scout Rifles especially, and Hand Cannons are a bad choice in that situation. Fusion or Shotgun (or Shingen-E -_-)

Barrier Melee is outrageously good and you should play with it more. You can 2v1 scenarios I would never, ever attempt with my hunter.

Shotgun + regular melee, to a full-health Bladedancer, may leave them with a little sliver of health. Shotgun + boosted melee (shoulder charge, blink strike, Sunsinger scorch) is guaranteed.

Linking to my list of counters in case it was missed

 

[Florida_Man_5000]

Dear DadsOfDestiny clan, you're terrible in Crucible.

Signed,
Everyone

Hey man. You're missing the point of that clan. People with few hours to spare who dont want to deal with tryhard bullshit. I was in that clan until I realized how hard Bungie failed on the clan front.

 

[Heroman]

Got 4 people who've cleared the vault. Anyone here who's 27+, have a void weapon and mic want to join?

Being familiar with the vault would be a huge plus.

Ps4, If so I can do it.

 

[PhatSaqs]

This is a pretty big problem for a loot game. And I'm noticing it too.

Yep. This is the one way the luster will wear off real quick for me and one of the reasons why I dont get people complaining about drops rates being too low. Oh well.

 

[LiK]

Since we're talking about modes, I'd like a vehicular-based raid.

If we're able to use our spaceships to fly around kind of like in Halo Reach, a raid consisting of us flying around doing things would be damn great and would kinda fulfill a dream I had when I began raiding few years back.

The vehicles kinda suck in this game. I wish we had Halo-levels of fun vehicle maps.

 

[a very cute dog]

Thanks to the GAF folks who helped me with that Queen's mission last night. Glad to finally have a purple.

On a side-note, it's incredibly frustrating to have impossible bounties. Salvage mode? Really?

 

[Heroman]

Since we're talking about modes, I'd like a vehicular-based raid.

If we're able to use our spaceships to fly around kind of like in Halo Reach, a raid consisting of us flying around doing things would be damn great and would kinda fulfill a dream I had when I began raiding few years back.

That would be something that I could see in destiny 2. I wish the ship were more than just a loading screen

 

[Sola Scriptura]

Anyone know of a full list of everything that can be received from the Queen's Wrath event? I'm talking everything, including class-specifics.

 

[LunaticPuma]

Are there different variants of raid armor or is everyone who reaches 30 going to have the same armor set?

 

[hypotc]

Need one more for queens wrath. Add me: hypotc


PS4

 

[Trakan]

Please tell me how to counter...

Rockets, of course...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc64DRXBFJw&list=UU674syOtUzhWbeQ1Wd2pNhg

 

[UpDownLeftRight]

Totally. Would be fun.

Though I would prefer Shingen-Es also be disabled in such a mode.

Just curious, what makes the Shingen-E so special? I thought I grabbed one and was rocking it in PvP and getting lots of kills, but a second inspection revealed its actually the Gallahad-E. I figured this was the OP gun since I'm tearing it up with it.

 

[Afrocious]

Are there different variants of raid armor or is everyone who reaches 30 going to have the same armor set?

This is what I've been worrying about. I don't think there's different varieties.

 

[Diablohead]

Reach shooting stage, landing at some kind of temple which raised from the ground and storming it into the depths of darkness only to finish and escape on your ships again would be rather amazing.

It will never happen.

 

[DY_nasty]

It's balanced out by how easy it is to fuck up

naw man. its the only super that allows unlimited range 1hks while allowing you the option to reposition yourself as you please. it can flip entire team situations with one use. add in combustion and its just... lol

nothing else can take out an interceptor, sniper across first light, and kill two people sitting on A in one use. it belongs in a different kind of game

 

[MaximusPayne]

Is anyone else extremely pissed that this game is so freaking random!

 

[toastyToast]

Just curious, what makes the Shingen-E so special? I thought I grabbed one and was rocking it in PvP and getting lots of kills, but a second inspection revealed its actually the Gallahad-E. I figured this was the OP gun since I'm tearing it up with it.

Slightly worse impact but amazing stability. Headshot machine. If you can line it up proper you can drop someone in half a second.

naw man. its the only super that allows unlimited range 1hks while allowing you the option to reposition yourself as you please. it can flip entire team situations with one use. add in combustion and its just... lol

nothing else can take out an interceptor, sniper across first light, and kill two people sitting on A. it belongs in a different kind of game

Man, like 2 maps in this game have good sight lines lol

 

[commish]

This is what I've been worrying about. I don't think there's different varieties.

Isn't this the case with most/all MMOs, though?

 

[Afrocious]

Reach shooting stage, landing at some kind of temple which raised from the ground and storming it into the depths of darkness only to finish and escape on your ships again would be rather amazing.

It will never happen.

Not going to lie, but given what sort of stuff you do in the Vault of Glass, I'd be awfully surprised if Bungie didn't take the opportunity to have vehicles in raids.

 

[Diablohead]

Is anyone else extremely pissed that this game is so freaking random!

A lot of people in this thread.

 

[Klyka]

Just got my second exotic bounty. Chose "Shattered memories" cause an exotic fusion rifle sounds nice!

 

[Cob32]

Would you guys like a no supers PvP mode?

I would like a no radar mode more.

 

[Atkison04]

Nightfall and Strike Cheese Tip of the Week

At the last boss, the Nexus, don't jump down that large drop. First take out the few roaming Minotaurs that are wandering down there until the boss spawns. Then, just shoot at the boss from the same spot, sniper rifles are your friend here.

There will be an Ultra Minotaur Vex that will spawn behind you every 40 seconds or sometimes less, but dealing with 1 enemy on a constant loop is easier than the hoards that spawn below on a regular basis.

If you have a defender Titan get them to drop their shield with "Weapons of Light" so when everyone passes through it, all damage on the boss will be buffed.

Anyone figure out how to solo this with a hunter yet? I managed to solo the last week strike, granted it was only level 22.

 

[Afrocious]

Isn't this the case with most/all MMOs, though?

Yeah, and it's a problem that's alleviated by transmorgrification or basically ways to wear whatever gear you want but having the endgame stats and benefits you want on them.

 

[Seil]

Yep. This is the one way the luster will wear off real quick for me and one of the reasons why I dont get people complaining about drops rates being too low. Oh well.

My problem isn't with drop rates being too low, but the general way the loot is handled being mediocre.

Low drop rates can be fine. I would be more than happy to run a strike dozens(or more) times attempting to get an exotic that's only found there.

However, I'm not super happy about the seemingly best way to get an exotic I want to be sit around in the crucible where my performance isn't even brought into the equation x.x

I really, really wanted to be able to say "Yeah, I got my Hawkmoon for beating the shit out of the psion flayers on a higher difficulty" instead I get to say "I may never get a Hawkmoon but that guy with a 0.25 k/d rating just got one. Yay."

"Earn your gear and show it off," "we want the items you earn to have a story," my ass. They described something entirely different =/

On a brighter note, just got another exotic bounty. Got the same selection as the first time, that really shouldn't happen. Why are you showing me Thorn again when I already have it guys x.x picked invective this time... at least Thorn looks/sounds cool I guess lol.

 

[Hawkian]

Edit: What I find most interesting is how much people are bothered by the blade dancer super vs. other supers. I DO think it's probably more powerful, but I suspect it's more a psychological thing that makes it bother people than the fact that they get killed by it more often. It's just a very brutal, almost insulting way to die, somehow. Just kind of interesting.

Yeah. There's also the fact that, a good bladedancer, getting a really good Arc Blade activation spot/time, looks like an absolute lunatic, just slicing and flying and blinking and blades and flashes and holy fuck dude it feels so satisfying. The crazy thing those is that whenever you see one of those gifs with the Gutted award handed out where a bladedancer just carves up the whole other team, from the bladedancer's perspective it... doesn't feel that cheap. It means you either:

• Got lucky, which can happen with any super
• Played your goddamn brains out with high skill, positioning, stealth use, unexpected blinks, air dashes, etc.

Feels less cheap than firing a rocket to me, and I honestly mean that. It takes skil to use to its full effectl, there's risk, you can waste it.

 

[Facundo_Lopez]

Dear Queen, how the fuck am I supposed to use a scout rifle or hand cannon in the close quarters tight corners shotgun fest that is crucible?

It's not that hard, I did it in 5/6 clash matches. You just have to aim always for the head

 

[hamchan]

Anyone figure out how to solo this with a hunter yet? I managed to solo the last week strike, granted it was only level 22.

There's a way to jump on top of the rings on the ceiling and shoot at the boss through a tiny gap.

 

[arimanius]

a titan melee can kill a blade dancer at full health

blade dancers die plenty. the smarter ones that make the most out of angles/elevation and the ones that use invis are the scariest - but very few do that

BS. Just had a match where I shoulder slammed a hunter who activated arc blade before I got there. Took off a little health and he killed me.

I've also just punched a guy using arc blade and guess what. He killed me.

 

[everyday math]

Having a 200 mark cap is so fucking dumb.

 

[Byron Bluth]

Yup, I don't like any of them either. I hope they expand his inventory.

Mark of the Six Fronts is what I have been wearing for so many levels now. Love the ripped, blood stained look.

 

[Robdraggoo]

Today, I join the 27 club!
Now the joys of hellium and shard farming await!

 

[MADGAME]

Is there any tool/app/photoshop sorcery that could render what each Guardian would look like decked out in all the exotic gear? I would love to mix and match and revel in the bad assery.

 

[Bizazedo]

No they can't. Not even the stormfist melee can do it. Only the shoulder charge melee can.

I have shoulder charged a Hunter I snuck up on who activated right before I hit him. I then punched him. I don't remember if Storm Fist was active, admittedly, but I did get to see that his life bar was mostly dead when he turned around and stabbed me. He had 30% life left.

If I must. Don't say I never did anything for you.


Near-guaranteed counters:

Shotgun + boosted Melee: A shotgun blast + Shoulder Charge with Barrier Melee is an end to my dancing days. Even if I manage to survive, the then-shielded Titan has me at his mercy unless he totally loses his cool. This goes for Sunsinger Flame Shield too, but obviously they need to pop Radiance for that

This will work as shotgun does more than a melee attack.

Reliable counters needing skill:
Stay calm, back up while jumping, and use the mid-to-close range high-DPS weapon of your choice: If you see a bladedancer coming for you that means you can be shooting at them.

I've had Blade Dancers catch me when I jumped. They'd lunge into the air and stab me. That being said, it's still a good tip, but you better jump earlier than you think you need to.

Dude, no way! Maybe this is true with the optional (only occasionally proc'ing) AOE option for the titan melee? Not sure if that does extra damage to the actual punchee, but it appears to in PvE from my experience. I could buy that, but it's not 100% of the time anyway. Edit: Titan melee doesn't even one shot a NORMAL enemy, though, btw. Unless mine is broken?

I have never one hit killed an enemy with a Titan punch. Ever. Storm Fist leaves them mostly dead, but not dead.

Shoulder Charge will one hit kill everything except overshielded people / new sunsingers with shields / bladedancer with no follow-up.....but the move sucks. Yes, it does. It's gotten me killed far more than it has killed and I only use it because TIGER KNEE.

I'm surprised nobody has made a fireteam composed of all bladedancers and go into crucible. Or a team of all defenders.

[/QUOTE]

I've played against a team that was 5 camo Blade Dancers and one random Warlock. It was a miserable experience. We won, but that's because we were also a premade and they weren't good. It was a close one, though.

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They're not even CLOSE to easy to kill. I am sorry if I gave anyone that impression. It's just possible, it happens, and it is more practical than killing a Titan during Fist or inside a Ward, a Sunsinger as I built described way above, or a Void Bombing Warlock (people claim THIS is easy, but I've never done it personally).

It's a super. If you don't have yours, you are very likely to get murdered by it. But it's not unstoppable either.

The only thing I'd say is a Titan has to use an additional ability slot to be unkillable, virtually, while Fist of Havoc'ng. If he does that, he cannot shoulderblock and he cannot get the shield while sprinting (not enough people use this, I expect to see Titans with armor builds around shotgun / melee with Juggernaut later on).

If he doesn't have this ability, it is *very* easy to kill a Titan before he Fists of Havoc. A lot of people probably don't notice it because the Titan is dead before he even jumps.

 

[Hawkian]

Just curious, what makes the Shingen-E so special? I thought I grabbed one and was rocking it in PvP and getting lots of kills, but a second inspection revealed its actually the Gallahad-E. I figured this was the OP gun since I'm tearing it up with it.

Galahad-E is just "fine" too. Any high-ROF auto rifle with decent stability is a goddamned murder grinder in the Crucible. They dominate from a majority of combat ranges. It's a function of the lack of falloff at range, the way high-ROF works inconjunction with headshots, and especially generous auto-aim for ARs.

I've had Blade Dancers catch me when I jumped. They'd lunge into the air and stab me. That being said, it's still a good tip, but you better jump earlier than you think you need to.

Haha, well, yeah. I said "reliable, needing skill." It's... I mean. Skill comes into play. A good bladedancer can also anticipate your jump and slice or even blink behind you. I'm you know, I'm just sayin'. It's better than trying to RUN (why does anyone do this) or firing blindly with an AR while running forward.

I have never one hit killed an enemy with a Titan punch. Ever. Storm Fist leaves them mostly dead, but not dead.

Shoulder Charge will one hit kill everything except overshielded people / new sunsingers with shields / bladedancer with no follow-up.....but the move sucks. Yes, it does. It's gotten me killed far more than it has killed and I only use it because TIGER KNEE.

I was actually just talking about shoulder charge. I haven't used it, interesting to hear the perspective. I've been killed by it many times.

The only thing I'd say is a Titan has to use an additional ability slot to be unkillable, virtually, while Fist of Havoc'ng. If he does that, he cannot shoulderblock and he cannot get the shield while sprinting (not enough people use this, I expect to see Titans with armor builds around shotgun / melee with Juggernaut later on).

Also interesting. Great contributions to this discussion, thank you!

If he doesn't have this ability, it is *very* easy to kill a Titan before he Fists of Havoc. A lot of people probably don't notice it because the Titan is dead before he even jumps.

Well... yeah, I guess I wouldn't know, if they die TFW when they do have that slot equipped and it's my first kill attempt during Arc Blade though ;_;

 

[PhatSaqs]

My problem isn't with drop rates being too low, but the general way the loot is handled being mediocre.

Low drop rates can be fine. I would be more than happy to run a strike dozens(or more) times attempting to get an exotic that's only found there.

However, I'm not super happy about the seemingly best way to get an exotic I want to be sit around in the crucible where my performance isn't even brought into the equation x.x

I really, really wanted to be able to say "Yeah, I got my Hawkmoon for beating the shit out of the psion flayers on a higher difficulty" instead I get to say "I may never get a Hawkmoon but that guy with a 0.25 k/d rating just got one. Yay."

"Earn your gear and show it off," "we want the items you earn to have a story," my ass. They described something entirely different =/

Don't disagree with any of that at all but I can see both sides. I guess they need some mechanics that both avoid the "rich getting richer" & someone like me who consistently places last in crucible getting an Exotic SR for my efforts lol.

 

[DY_nasty]

BS. Just had a match where I shoulder slammed a hunter who activated arc blade before I got there. Took off a little health and he killed me.

I've also just punched a guy using arc blade and guess what. He killed me.

its my leading cause of death as a blade dancer

but then again, i don't use the arc blade regen ability like i should

 

[NegroNinja]

Ok couple of questions here:
1. You need strange coins to buy things from Xur right? Well I have 12 right now and was wondering on average how much is everything? Do I need like 20 or 30 and what's the best way to get them?
2. I have 10 notes of light. Can I only use these to buy things from the speaker? Should I even care about these things?
3. I'm lvl 23 and want to do the queens kill orders when I get off work. Is it possible for me to do it alone?
Thanks in advance you guys everyone in this thread has been an amazing help. Love this community.

 

[fallingdove]

I don't think you need any rank. You just buy faction specific butt cloth and wear it in then you will earn rep only for that faction and points wont go to vanguard marks or crucible rep. Bounties too only will go to faction.

Gotcha. That makes sense.

 

[toastyToast]

Dear Queen, how the fuck am I supposed to use a scout rifle or hand cannon in the close quarters tight corners shotgun fest that is crucible?

Back up?

Hand cannon in mid range and scout is mid-long range

 

[arimanius]

its my leading cause of death as a blade dancer

but then again, i don't use the arc blade regen ability like i should

I don't know what to tell you. It literally just happened. Shoulder charge right when he activated arc blade. I took his shields down and that's basically it. He then killed me.

 

[MidEvlDed]

My problem isn't with drop rates being too low, but the general way the loot is handled being mediocre.

Low drop rates can be fine. I would be more than happy to run a strike dozens(or more) times attempting to get an exotic that's only found there.

However, I'm not super happy about the seemingly best way to get an exotic I want to be sit around in the crucible where my performance isn't even brought into the equation x.x

I really, really wanted to be able to say "Yeah, I got my Hawkmoon for beating the shit out of the psion flayers on a higher difficulty" instead I get to say "I may never get a Hawkmoon but that guy with a 0.25 k/d rating just got one. Yay."

"Earn your gear and show it off," "we want the items you earn to have a story," my ass. They described something entirely different =/

On a brighter note, just got another exotic bounty. Got the same selection as the first time, that really shouldn't happen. Why are you showing me Thorn again when I already have it guys x.x picked invective this time... at least Thorn looks/sounds cool I guess lol.

Completely agree with that. The way they hand out rewards in the crucible goes against what they said. Same with the way they're handing out legendaries in the queen's wrath this week. I don't really care that people are getting them easily, but what's the great story behind them? I beat the first level in the game two times in a row. Wooooooo. Great story.

 

[Patroclos]

Leveling guide part 3 is going to clear up some misconceptions about the role the Queen's Wrath is playing in the endgame right now.

Can't wait. Hawkian, I need a bit of advice. I hit a bump in the road, I am about halfway through level 26. Last night I realized I have leveled Dead Orbit to level 2 so I got some boots to complete my rates. The problem is that I realized with the blade dancer subclass perk that allows fast recharge I have no need for the melee component on armor. This leaves Future War Cult (unleveled) as my main source for armor that I need to acquire for an all intellect and grenade build, correct?

God I wish I had thought this through and gone FWC from the jump.

 

[Bizazedo]

its my leading cause of death as a blade dancer

but then again, i don't use the arc blade regen ability like i should

Yeah, like the other guy said..I've shoulder blocked multiple arc blade'ng blade dancers. It does not kill them in one hit. As you insinuated, it sounds like you have a different build that leaves you vulnerable if you are dying.

Most don't use that build, if so.

 

[Chief1690]

Ok couple of questions here:
1. You need strange coins to buy things from Xur right? Well I have 12 right now and was wondering on average how much is everything? Do I need like 20 or 30 and what's the best way to get them?
2. I have 10 notes of light. Can I only use these to buy things from the speaker? Should I even care about these things?
3. I'm lvl 23 and want to do the queens kill orders when I get off work. Is it possible for me to do it alone?
Thanks in advance you guys everyone in this thread has been an amazing help. Love this community.

1. Armor costs 13 and weapons are 23. You can also buy engrams from him for 23 motes of light.
2. As I said above, you can also use them to purchase exotic engrams from Xur for 23 of them and while they're guaranteed to be exotic, they're not however guaranteed to be for your class so think carefully.
3. It's possible, but I'd recommend doing it with one or two more people.

 

[Liquidsnake]

What's a void weapon?

 

[Beefy]

My problem isn't with drop rates being too low, but the general way the loot is handled being mediocre.

Low drop rates can be fine. I would be more than happy to run a strike dozens(or more) times attempting to get an exotic that's only found there.

However, I'm not super happy about the seemingly best way to get an exotic I want to be sit around in the crucible where my performance isn't even brought into the equation x.x

I really, really wanted to be able to say "Yeah, I got my Hawkmoon for beating the shit out of the psion flayers on a higher difficulty" instead I get to say "I may never get a Hawkmoon but that guy with a 0.25 k/d rating just got one. Yay."

"Earn your gear and show it off," "we want the items you earn to have a story," my ass. They described something entirely different =/

On a brighter note, just got another exotic bounty. Got the same selection as the first time, that really shouldn't happen. Why are you showing me Thorn again when I already have it guys x.x picked invective this time... at least Thorn looks/sounds cool I guess lol.

How do you get exotic bounties?