Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)

Soooo, I have a 1440p monitor and a gtx 770 currently. I want to be able to play on 1440p on high settings (no max required lol) at 60 fps. Is a 970 enough or should i step it up to 980? (I don't want to SLI and I currently have i5 2500k)

Wait for the 1070 10GB model next year.
 
Two WD Blue 1TB vs 2 TB WD green vs 2TB Toshiba?

I've read a lot of bad things about HDDs that I have no clue what to buy, WD are dicks for not selling a 2TB blue and instead a twice as expensive 2TB black "for performance".

Note: I've got a lot of important important university documents I can't afford to lose in case of failure

Edit: sorry wrong thread (lot of tabs, but thanks for the answers anyway!)
 
Two WD Blue 1TB vs 2 TB WD green vs 2TB Toshiba?

I've read a lot of bad things about HDDs that I have no clue what to buy, WD are dicks for not selling a 2TB blue and instead a twice as expensive 2TB black "for performance".

Note: I've got a lot of important important university documents I can't afford to lose in case of failure

Whatever you do I recommend backing up btw. No physical storage is infallible. Use something like OneDrive to store docs in. That way you'll have both local and cloud copies.
 
Note: I've got a lot of important important university documents I can't afford to lose in case of failure

Dude, use OneDrive, cloud backup man, and keep like a copy of stuff on a USB drive or something too. Cloud storage/syncing is paramount for university docs.

Edit: beaten, good shot karma, dat speed
 
Are you using FRAPS to get the screens or something else? FRAPS crashed for me every time I took a screenshot when I was using DSR.

Such a beautiful game.

Sorry, I missed your question on the last page. I used fraps for the FPS overlay, but MSI Afterburner to capture screenshots. Everything else crashed on me.
 
Mine only buzzes when playing a game, would newegg refund or replace?

My MSI had coil whine and I didnt even have to convince Newegg to take it back. Literally all I said about the card was "it makes a whining noise" and they processed an RMA no questions. I'm pretty sure they'll take your card.

Now I'm just waiting for more stock from them or Amazon to buy a new card.
 
Mine only buzzes when playing a game, would newegg refund or replace?

This is going to be a really dumb question but did you make sure you removed all of the plastic that is on the card and fans? I would double check if you can.


I'm sure you can return the product if you are not happy with it. It shouldn't be making any noise at all.
 
Mine only buzzes when playing a game, would newegg refund or replace?
What game?

Buzzing is pretty typical for cards when they're under high stress, especially when they're rendering at super high frame rates (200+). But even then, under normal framerates, you'll get buzzing.

The only reason this seems like an issue is that the fans are now quiet enough for this sort of thing to actually be heard. Back in the day of crap blower designs with high TDP, the fans were moving so fast that it would totally overshadow the buzzing and ticking noises that are typical.

I've had it on every single one of my cards that I've put a waterblock on, and that's enough cards to rule out unluckiness on my part.
 
UK gaf is £110 a good price to sell my used MSI gtx 670 power edition OC 2gb gddr5, it's still in perfect condition and is boxed with all of the original accessories, etc. Also what's the best place to sell it? Ebay? Gumtree?
If anyone here is interested in buying PM me please.

Sold my EVGA 670 FTW on eBay for £130 inc p&p, the listing was for 3 days but had 6 offers in the 1st hour & took the one which covered my costs & seemed fair, could of probably gotten more for it though had I let it run.
 
What game?

Buzzing is pretty typical for cards when they're under high stress, especially when they're rendering at super high frame rates (200+). But even then, under normal framerates, you'll get buzzing.

The only reason this seems like an issue is that the fans are now quiet enough for this sort of thing to actually be heard. Back in the day of crap blower designs with high TDP, the fans were moving so fast that it would totally overshadow the buzzing and ticking noises that are typical.

I've had it on every single one of my cards that I've put a waterblock on, and that's enough cards to rule out unluckiness on my part.

I have my frame limiter set to 144 so that's probably why I haven't had to deal with any coil whine if my card even has it.
 
You could always buy some EVGA cards now, and then use the Step Up program to get the 8GB variants in a few months if you want more VRAM.
I was just researching the EVGA Step Up program as I was interested in their cards and possibly doing this myself in a few months.. but I found this statement in their program conditions:

Graphics Cards Examples:

GTX 460 → GTX 580: YES (Upgraded GPU)
GTX 460 768MB → GTX 460 1GB: NO (Same GPU)
GTX 570 → GTX 480: NO (Must be GPU upgrade)

It seems you can't use the Step Up just for a VRAM increase. It has to be an architectural change.
 
My MSI had coil whine and I didnt even have to convince Newegg to take it back. Literally all I said about the card was "it makes a whining noise" and they processed an RMA no questions. I'm pretty sure they'll take your card.

Now I'm just waiting for more stock from them or Amazon to buy a new card.

Great!

This is going to be a really dumb question but did you make sure you removed all of the plastic that is on the card and fans? I would double check if you can.


I'm sure you can return the product if you are not happy with it. It shouldn't be making any noise at all.

I did, and all the covers to

What game?

Buzzing is pretty typical for cards when they're under high stress, especially when they're rendering at super high frame rates (200+). But even then, under normal framerates, you'll get buzzing.

The only reason this seems like an issue is that the fans are now quiet enough for this sort of thing to actually be heard. Back in the day of crap blower designs with high TDP, the fans were moving so fast that it would totally overshadow the buzzing and ticking noises that are typical.

I've had it on every single one of my cards that I've put a waterblock on, and that's enough cards to rule out unluckiness on my part.

I tried ultra street fighter, the batman games, and assetto corsa, they all buzzed as soon as the gpu started rendering the graphics.
 
Screw it.. I'm going to get the small Zotac 970. I've read of a few people getting good overclocks with a decent fan profile despite the size/cooler. Hope I hit the lottery.. but I won't lament too much if it's on the low end of overclocking.
 
Really? :O

Well...depends what games but looks like for high at 1440p, 4GB might not be enough for going forward, and I definitely can't lock 60fps with my 780ti (which seems to be closer to a 970 atm) with games like Star Citizen, Crysis 3, Shadow Warrior at those resolutions.

It will be a great buy for sure, but not the end of your worries... especially if you aren't looking to SLI. If you do...we've yet to see how bad things are with vram, some expect the situation to get worse. Rumour has it VRAM will be increasing with the 900 series. But people also expect the next cards to be quite a bit above these cards performance wise due to the drop to possibly as small as 16nm.
 
Probably not. I think when the 20nm or 16nm cards come out, you should consider upgrading everything. By that point Intel's Skylake CPUs will be out (14nm), not mention the DDR4 RAM upgrade.
Even with Skylake coming out a 2500k should be fine. We are very far from being cpu bottlenecked. Consoles cpus are disgustingly bad. The i5 runs circles around it.
 
Well...depends what games but looks like for high at 1440p, 4GB might not be enough for going forward, and I definitely can't hit 60fps with my 780ti (which seems to be closer to a 970 atm) with games like Star Citizen, Crysis 3, Shadow Warrior at those resolutions.

It will be a great buy for sure, but not the end of your worries... especially if you aren't looking to SLI. If you do...we've yet to see how bad things are with vram, some expect the situation to get worse.
A single texture pack that is an optional download on a multiplat game is not indicative of what VRAM requirements will be going forward.
 
Did you have V-Sync active? What kind of frame rate were you getting?

Yeah, I was playing maximum settings on all games. I was getting 40-55fps with vsync on batman games, 60 in assetto corsa and street fighter, 300fps in usf4 benchmark. They all buzzed, should I try low or mid game settings to see if it still buzzes?
 
Even with Skylake coming out a 2500k should be fine. We are very far from being cpu bottlenecked. Consoles cpus are disgustingly bad. The i5 runs circles around it.

Unfortunately, I can see games with a lot of draw calls being very CPU bound on PC. In addition, there are quite a lot of games which are CPU limited.
 
Yeah, I was playing maximum settings on all games. I was getting 40-55fps with vsync on batman games, 60 in assetto corsa and street fighter, 300fps in usf4 benchmark. They all buzzed, should I try low or mid game settings to see if it still buzzes?
I'm just wondering, this buzzing, is it loud? Can you hear it with headphones? I mean, go for an RMA, but if you are loading up games to check specifically for the buzzing and paying close attention to it, you might never be satisfied. It's extremely typical for GPUs.

Even my highly customized 780 Ti Classified Kingpin with the fanciest caps and voltage regulation does it.
 
A single texture pack that is an optional download on a multiplat game is not indicative of what VRAM requirements will be going forward.

It's not just one game even the Evil Within devs said we should have 4GB or don't expect to play it that well.

Watch Dogs was on the 3GB limit and that's with high textures, not ultra.


Shadow of Mordor was 6GB for Ultra... at 1080p.
 
It's not just one game even the Evil Within devs said we should have 4GB or don't expect to play it that well.

Watch Dogs was on the 3GB limit and that's with high textures, not ultra.


Shadow of Mordor was 6GB for Ultra... at 1080p.
Community Manager did, not devs. Zero empirical evidence that shows this is accurate. I'll take an avatar bet on the Evil Within that my 780 Ti will not have VRAM swapping issues leading to poor performance.

Watch Dogs was a mess that had VRAM issues as a fault of the dev, pointed out by numerous tech websites.

Shadow of Mordor, again, is a single texture pack that is an optional download. I bet absolutely zero work went in to optimizing it. In essence, it's more like a mod, and more precisely, like Skyrim with texture mods. Skyrim with texture mods made 2GB cards die, but was not evidence of future VRAM limits. It was evidence of a poorly implemented texture mod.
 
Community Manager did, not devs. Zero empirical evidence that shows this is accurate. I'll take an avatar bet on the Evil Within that my 780 Ti will not have VRAM swapping issues leading to poor performance.

Watch Dogs was a mess that had VRAM issues as a fault of the dev, pointed out by numerous tech websites.

Shadow of Mordor, again, is a single texture pack that is an optional download. I bet absolutely zero work went in to optimizing it. In essence, it's more like a mod, and more precisely, like Skyrim with texture mods. Skyrim with texture mods made 2GB cards die, but was not evidence of future VRAM limits. It was evidence of a poorly implemented texture mod.

Ok, that is reassuring...but what if most of the devs going forward "poorly optimize" because of the way they develop their games on consoles and how they access memory or something and we end up seeing inflated requirements like we are apparently seeing...either way it seems like we're falling behind the curve at this moment.
 
PC users trying to run next-gen ports on 3GB vram at resolutions higher than 1080p won't feel much better with that in mind while staring at medium textures.

Maybe they'll scrape by, with that constant worry of a looming stutter, about to hit at any moment.

Shit man, I want to be comfortable.
 
Sorry, I missed your question on the last page. I used fraps for the FPS overlay, but MSI Afterburner to capture screenshots. Everything else crashed on me.
The latest version of fraps doesn't crash for me. Older version did.
Any holdout i7 920 Gaffers rocking a 970 or 980? I'd love to see some benches of Firestrike/Heaven/whatever.
I posted a fire strike ITT with a 920 @ 4.0.
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So here's my best attempt to provide insight into the EVGA 1.0 card. Note that I'm running this on an LCD TV so the hz will affect the score (I think).

Card seems to like 1450mhz for GPU. Max temp on benchmark was 67c.

Seems OK to me.
 
I'm just wondering, this buzzing, is it loud? Can you hear it with headphones? I mean, go for an RMA, but if you are loading up games to check specifically for the buzzing and paying close attention to it, you might never be satisfied. It's extremely typical for GPUs.

Even my highly customized 780 Ti Classified Kingpin with the fanciest caps and voltage regulation does it.

Yea its loud, it buzzes louder than my plasma tv, my tv buzz is not noticable but with the gpu I can here it from even like 20ft away.
 
Hope these come back in stock on Amazon or Newegg soon. Thinking about picking up a pair of Gigabyte G1 970s. They seem to have the lowest temps/noise and highest overclocks.
 
So I ordered a 970. When it arrives, what is the best way to go about uninstalling/reinstalling new drivers since I'm switching from AMD? Is uninstalling CCC/AMD Drivers > Shutdown > Remove old card/put new card in > Install nvidia drivers all you have to do or?
 
Sorry, I missed your question on the last page. I used fraps for the FPS overlay, but MSI Afterburner to capture screenshots. Everything else crashed on me.

Thanks. Oddly, FRAPS wasn't crashing for me today. I'm not sure why. If it starts again, Afterburner it is.

So... the question everyone wants to know about 3xSLI GTX980 superclocked card!

Can it play Crysis?

So, I ran this benchmark at three different resolutions / AA settings. This is with all other graphics options in the game set to very high.

The benchmark was the initial cutscene of the assault level, staring straight ahead, then walking along the path as explosions go off all around up to where you meet the commanding officer and then through to the end of his speech when it hits the checkpoint. The *final* frame dip is when it saves.

crysis1080tpe7c.png


This is pretty damn good for Crysis, I think, but 60 FPS minimum at 1080p for 4xMSAA is still beyond 'regular' PCs.

crysis1470wxfd6.png


Higher resolution, lower MSAA, pretty much the same exact performance. 2xMSAA looks to be the way to go for 1440p. I had to approximate that res using DSR on my 1920 x 1200 panel.

crysis4ku5cxw.png


Crysis at 4K with no AA says... don't make me laugh at your puny hardware. Pretty much every time an explosion goes off the game drops... HARD.

Crysis remains one of the most demanding games ever made.

Bonus frametimes graph from the 1440p ish 2xMSAA run for people who find such things interesting. I stopped the range right before the hitch when it saves so as not to destroy the scale.

crysis1470frametimesrwcjl.png


No microstutter here!
 
Thanks. Oddly, FRAPS wasn't crashing for me today. I'm not sure why. If it starts again, Afterburner it is.

So... the question everyone wants to know about 3xSLI GTX980 superclocked card!

Can it play Crysis?

So, I ran this benchmark at three different resolutions / AA settings. This is with all other graphics options in the game set to very high.

The benchmark was the initial cutscene of the assault level, staring straight ahead, then walking along the path as explosions go off all around up to where you meet the commanding officer and then through to the end of his speech when it hits the checkpoint. The *final* frame dip is when it saves.

crysis1080tpe7c.png


This is pretty damn good for Crysis, I think, but 60 FPS minimum at 1080p for 4xMSAA is still beyond 'regular' PCs.

crysis1470wxfd6.png


Higher resolution, lower MSAA, pretty much the same exact performance. 2xMSAA looks to be the way to go for 1440p. I had to approximate that res using DSR on my 1920 x 1200 panel.

crysis4ku5cxw.png


Crysis at 4K with no AA says... don't make me laugh at your puny hardware. Pretty much every time an explosion goes off the game drops... HARD.

Crysis remains one of the most demanding games ever made.

Bonus frametimes graph from the 1440p ish 2xMSAA run for people who find such things interesting. I stopped the range right before the hitch when it saves so as not to destroy the scale.

crysis1470frametimesrwcjl.png


No microstutter here!

When looking at your post, I thought the graphs were for Crysis 3! What's causing those frame-drops? Is it simple unoptimisation?
 
Just got a 970, upgrading from a 465. Would it be worth keeping my 465 in my rig as a PhysX engine? Or strip it out of my rig all together.
 
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