dysonEA
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How much they go for?
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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How much they go for?
plagiarize
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Crysis 2 and 3 both run better for me than Crysis, and have done for my last few upgrades. The beginning of Assault is especially strenuous with alpha heavy explosions going off in a big open map with large draw distance.
When I got my HD7970 years back, I thought something was wrong with it, because Crysis 2 was running so much better than it.
I think it's partially badly optimized and partially just doing some really intensive effects.
Crysis 3 at 1080p and 4xMSAA I got the following results on a section with similar conditions:
Min 74, Max 200, Avg 116.
Like $40-$60 shipped
Sutton Dagger
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I know it might sound stupid, but I've decided to wait for the 970's with more Vram. If I was getting a single card I'd just get the 4gb version, but because I plan to sli (and play at higher res than 1080p) I'm going to wait... It's going to suck as my 670 is currently going to sell on EBay in the next couple of days...
plagiarize
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If some higher memory cards come out in the next three months and they aren't too much more expensive than the ones I have, and if EVGA put them on their trade up program, I probably will, because why not make use of that right?
But I'll be very glad to have 4 Gigs of VRAM when The Evil Within unlocks in a couple of weeks.
Should we be waiting for 6GB iterations of GTX970/980 instead?
It's frustrating to know that your cards are more than powerful to run whatever the games throw at them, but are gimped by low VRAM.
If that's the only thing holding me back from Ultra settings on a $410 (CAD) card, then I'd be somewhat upset.
It's frustrating to know that your cards are more than powerful to run whatever the games throw at them, but are gimped by low VRAM.
If that's the only thing holding me back from Ultra settings on a $410 (CAD) card, then I'd be somewhat upset.
I got a MSI Gaming 4G GTX 970, but it has a weird issue.
I never see the POST, just a black screen and it takes a full minute or two to boot into Windows, all the while making a beep sound every 10 seconds or so, then it boots up and works just fine.
This is on my Asus P8H67-V with a Core i5 2500 (SandyBridge). My PSU is a decent Corsair 650 watt. My GTX 670 had no issue, and my system booted to the desktop within 10-15 seconds.
I tried it in my wife's PC, which is an IvyBridge system and it worked just fine.
I'm a longtime geek and A+ certified, but this boggles me.
Any ideas?
I never see the POST, just a black screen and it takes a full minute or two to boot into Windows, all the while making a beep sound every 10 seconds or so, then it boots up and works just fine.
This is on my Asus P8H67-V with a Core i5 2500 (SandyBridge). My PSU is a decent Corsair 650 watt. My GTX 670 had no issue, and my system booted to the desktop within 10-15 seconds.
I tried it in my wife's PC, which is an IvyBridge system and it worked just fine.
I'm a longtime geek and A+ certified, but this boggles me.
Any ideas?
SneakyStephan
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There will be no 6GB gtx 970/980
256bit memory bus means 1/2/4/8 GB memory configurations are possible only
If you want a 6GB card you'll have to wait for gm200 which will have a 384bit bus (though it could have a 512 bit bus and come in 4/8GB configurations)
If you have coil whine send your card back, simple...
It's not supposed to have it, and the idea of people just bending over and suddenly being willing to live with coil whine (what a message to send to nvidia and amd) makes me cringe
You have a warranty just for things like this, so use it, don't settle for a dud
Thanks. Wow that's more impressive than I would have thought.
Finally got these from Tiger Direct
Noticing a nice upgrade from 780's @4k
about 10-20 fps difference in BF4 & TitianFall maxed @4k
These sound dead silent too, not noticing any wine or noise. Bring on LOTR next week!
/drool
All these pics and tests is seriously giving me a bad case of the itch.
Felix Lighter
Member
At what point does >4 GB of ram become a waste on a 256 bit bus? Would the available bandwidth even allow for taking advantage of 8GB of ram? Do these new consoles that seem to be the genesis of the vram concerns have the bandwidth to hypothetically utilize 5-6GB of vram outside of caching chunks of data? I get that developers have a lot more available to work with now as baseline but I don't see it growing and growing and growing, unless you choose to go higher and higher resolution.
How much power are these puppies drawing when playing at 4K?
The bios was loading very slow for me when I first installed my card, but worked fine in windows once it got through. Updating the Bios fixed it for me.
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Deleted member 102362
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Thanks for letting me know about EVGA's Stepup program, guys.
metzger203
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I got an Asus 970 and I'm wondering if the noise I'm hearing during games is normal or if I should RMA. It's definitely not the fans, they aren't even spinning when I hear it. Basically it sounds like and is as loud as a mechanical hard drive loading. A consistent buzzing / grinding sound. It goes away immediately when I alt+tab out of a game. My roommate thinks it's coil whine, but isn't that more of a high-pitch sound? I wouldn't really describe this sound as high-pitch.
My old card was an EVGA 650, which was mostly inaudible, so I'm also wondering if this jump in noise is expected given the jump in performance?
My old card was an EVGA 650, which was mostly inaudible, so I'm also wondering if this jump in noise is expected given the jump in performance?
Sadly my board doesn't have a new BIOS update. 2013 was the last one, and I already flashed it. With the 970, my bios is super slow everytime.
I'm about to say screw it, and just go a whole new build. Researching X99 boards and DDR4 now...
crazepharmacist
Member
Figured it out! Just had to disable "systeminfo hardware monitoring." Not sure why but it fixed it!
crazepharmacist
Member
Received my 970 today. Installed it and the first thing I did after installing the drivers and rebooting was looking at GPU-z just because:
Isn't the Pixel Fillrate lower than it should show it as?
Are you sure about that? My Pixel Fillrate is 35.6.
Also, my clock and boost clocks are lower than what was advertised. 1114 and 1253 mhz when I should be getting 1140 and 1279, respectively.
This is an GTX 970 Twin Frozr.
http://imgur.com/vynQivy
RadioactiveLobster
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You're also registering at PCI-E 1.1 x16 speeds
Dusktildawn48
Member
Series question. Is getting 15k on sli evga sc 970s slightly overclocked pretty good? Seen the one guy got 17k on gigabyte stock 970s
crazepharmacist
Member
Thanks. Do you know why the clocks rates are displaying a lower speed than what they should be? Does it ramp up during games/heavy use?
Chie Satonaka
Member
It's crazy, right? I just want one.
from Amazon. I won't pay any extra for shipping! I refuse!
misterhektik
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Just curious, which board do you have? Also, which 970?
I'm going with the Asus, but that's mostly because I've had good experiences with my last two asus cards. And also it's cheaper.
Although if I managed to find either one in stock at this point I'd just order whatever.
misterhektik
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Came down to these 2 for me as well, though they were, at the time, the same price here. ASUS has a quieter fan and a nice backplate. MSI, though, is generally 3-4 frames faster (not much) and no backplate. I went with MSI simply because my board is also MSI.
Not a huge difference between them, really. Whichever is available I suppose.
crazepharmacist
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How does my Firestrike score look with a gtx 970 at stock and i7920@4ghz?
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2837457
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2837457
plagiarize
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Crazy, yes. Rich, no. I just saved up for this PC build for nearly two years. Most people would probably have got a new car with that money, but mine still runs even if it's getting quite old, so PC it was
Blackage
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How does my Firestrike score look with a gtx 970 at stock and i7920@4ghz?
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2837457
Seems pretty damn good to me. I think I was breaking 10,000 with my 690GTX.
Motherboard is an Asus P8H67-V, GTX 970 is the MSI Gaming 4G.
plagiarize
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Crysis 2 DX11 maxed running at 4K is staying north of 60 fps on the first proper level. Insanity peppers.
ambar_hitman
Member
If the card has hybrid BIOS, try switching to legacy BIOS from hybrid BIOS and see if it helps.
It does that when it's idle.
Seems a little low seeing as I can hit higher with my 780. It's likely the 920 that's making you score lower since 3dMark really likes to use the CPU in the test.How does my Firestrike score look with a gtx 970 at stock and i7920@4ghz?
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2837457
This is likely as stable as Jell-O but it's fun to see what I can push with my "old" card.
plagiarize
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And with 3 Way SLI 980s Crysis 3 runs at 40 to 60 fps in 4K with AA off and everything else maxed if you are in open spaces with water and lots of stuff going on (generally stays 50+ but if things are moving through the water low 40s) and inside it seems to hover 60 to 75 fps.
Just confirming that Crysis 2 and 3 are much better optimized titles than the original Crysis which they both run substantially better than, however you slice it.
Just confirming that Crysis 2 and 3 are much better optimized titles than the original Crysis which they both run substantially better than, however you slice it.
Get your ROG Swift yet?
cripterion
Member
That's rich coming from that game. It looks horribly last gen with ugly ass textures. Also Watch Dogs was ok on high with 2GB, Ultra was a stuttery mess though.
sammyCYBORG
Member
The Witcher 2 downsampled from 4K. Holy shit!
michaelius
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This is all a marketing tactic from NVIDIA to sell more cards down the line, they know that their current GPU offerings are much better than consoles. And if they released cards with 8 GB VRAM it would most likely last entire generation.
So they continue to release cards with 3,4,6 GB VRAM so your forced to upgrade as the generation continues. Huge examples supporting this are games like Evil Within and Shadow of Mordor with requirements exceeding 4GB VRAM.
I was almost ready to pull the trigger on the 970/980, but no thanks NVIDIA gonna wait for the 8GB cards.
So they continue to release cards with 3,4,6 GB VRAM so your forced to upgrade as the generation continues. Huge examples supporting this are games like Evil Within and Shadow of Mordor with requirements exceeding 4GB VRAM.
I was almost ready to pull the trigger on the 970/980, but no thanks NVIDIA gonna wait for the 8GB cards.
You mean two, and at that two that haven't even been benchmarked.
Terbinator
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N/A to PC. Even if you had 8GB cards now you'd run into a shading wall at some point.
I would like to know how 8GB on a 256 bus makes sense. Is Maxwell's secret sauce that effective ? I could see 8GB on a 512bus, probably for the GM200.
In the meantine 4GB will be fine. I'm not at all convinced The Evil Within will actually need 4GB to match consoles.