Wavering Radiant
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Isn't b-roll footage just video provided for the press to talk over (about the game)?
Hence the lack of audio.
New Driveclub gameplay
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Hence the lack of audio.
Evo's b-roll footage for DC do have audio though, not in that particular youtube clip, but the source file did have sound, that I remember. From 1:22 onwards you can see another example of b-roll footage of the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqmSftch6sY&feature=player_detailpage#t=82
Early 2014, image quality is pretty much pristine.
Evolution has released a bunch of real gameplay videos, never really meant to say otherwise. But most of the footage of this sort with "replay" angles and such always looked downsampled to me. I suppose I was wrong to say that all Evo's b-roll videos were downsampled, I can't claim that I've seen them all.
I do insist though that the video of the topic in question does look way too clean to be direct feed. I also insist that it's not a big deal.mangochutney
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That gif is quite flattering to that video. It is after all, downsampled.Your claim makes no sense. We've seen plenty of b-roll footage over the past 12 months. Remember the videos when people were complaining about the aliasing on the back of the car?
Remember the official videos from Sony that gave the location, res/framerate, etc at the beginning? Everyone was talking about the jagged powerlines. You can see the improvements in the beta version and in the latest retail build Youtube videos the jagged powerlines are fixed.
They never used "downsampled" b-roll videos. You're sounding like famousmort when he made that claim about the Driveclub dev or IGN/Neil "forced out". Separate your opinion from the facts if you can't provide evidence.
They've said before the trailers are touched up, but taken from PS4. So it is reasonable for people to wonder if the same has been applied to this, given just how good it looks. It does look, very, very good.
Here are a few screenshots from the Audi video. Only real aliasing is limited to the car, and this was back in September 2013.
GribbleGrunger
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Driveclub threads are full of rubber-banding.
Summer Haze
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Source?
Not calling you out or anything, I genuinely would like to see the source for that.
AFAIK the EGX build is not the launch build. Someone said 5 weeks. I don't have twitter so I'm not in the know.
But here:
viveks86
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Gamescom build
TheWorthyEdge
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Absolutely incredible. That trailer was one of the best gameplay-wise. That part with the bridge and all of the green trees.......
:O
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viveks86
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They once said on Facebook that it's all 100% realtime captured from the PS4, but they are able to use more of its power to render the footage than during actual gameplay. This could imply that added effects are available while cutting trailer footage, such as more AA, better motion blur etc. Or it could just imply that they are using more resources to render the clouds and insane draw distances, like that time-lapse segment from sunrise to sunset. But this in no way suggests downsampling, which automatically implies that it was NOT captured from the PS4. It's an opinion jett has maintained for a long time. There's no clear evidence to disprove it, so I haven't had the inclination to convince someone who as already made up his mind.
When I played DriveClub on a large screen, I noticed *some* aliasing. Nothing bad or anything. It was definitely quite good for a console game. But then I played on a smaller screen and really couldn't notice much at all.
I think that's worth remembering to get an idea what to expect when you play this at home.
Was it on the powerlines?
I don't think downsampling implies not running on PS4. It just suggests not running in real-time.
(For this game, there are games on PS4 that downsample to 1080p in real-time.)
viveks86
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But what does that even mean? Capture at 10 FPS and fast forward 3x? Playback a video and recapture it "from the PS4"? What's the point even advertising that it's captured on a PS4 then? If the answer to that is "Corporations lie", then I'd rather step aside and let you guys debate it endlessly.
Saberus
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That's one way to do it.
All I've pointed out that downsampling doesn't "automatically implies that it was NOT captured from the PS4."
PjotrStroganov
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As I'm getting older I'm not really getting hyped for games anymore. But I really, really want to play this game!
viveks86
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Yup. And that's speculation that I can't disprove, which is why I've chosen not to argue it too much. May be I'm just naive…
Agreed. Sick of that shit.
Should have worded it differently. Just trying to say that it contradicts the intent behind the bold claim. One could do the same by running it at 0.5 FPS on a PS3 and say "captured directly from ps3". I know, different architecture etc., but you get my point... It's very, very misleading if true. But I don't want to throw accusations without evidence, which we would get soon enough.
Beta screen vs. latest video still.
Notice the trees at the top, it is higher res and cleaner looking, remember that beta version also had low-res powerlines and we know for a while now that they've fixed them.
So it can be that the game got an image quality bump in its latest development, but my guess is that the latest video has been downsampled mainly because it looks like a promotional video for the game which should indicate that it came straight from the studio.
Either way, game looks amazing.
People still claiming this is not real? Sigh i am pretty sick of this complaining to complain.
Also this for 40 euro's i can't complain..like i said before 1 more week.
Also this for 40 euro's i can't complain..like i said before 1 more week.
simplythebest
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viveks86
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Acquiescence
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Eugh, that ladder. Would not climb.
bananafactory
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simplythebest
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We riot! #NoBullFootage
Yes, and we do it by invading Evo studios, beating down Rushy and spray painting Turn10 Studios 4 life across his back for this supposed deception people are saying is going on. :|
Freeman
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Psychotherapy.
viveks86
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Beta screen vs. latest video still.
Notice the trees at the top, it is higher res and cleaner looking, remember that beta version also had low-res powerlines and we know for a while now that they've fixed them.
So it can be that the game got an image quality bump in its latest development, but my guess is that the latest video has been downsampled mainly because it looks like a promotional video for the game which should indicate that it came straight from the studio.
Either way, game looks amazing.
Nice comparison, but where's the beta screen from? Would be interesting to see the whole frame as well.
IAmRandom31
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Beta screen vs. latest video still.
Notice the trees at the top, it is higher res and cleaner looking, remember that beta version also had low-res powerlines and we know for a while now that they've fixed them.
So it can be that the game got an image quality bump in its latest development, but my guess is that the latest video has been downsampled mainly because it looks like a promotional video for the game which should indicate that it came straight from the studio.
Either way, game looks amazing.
It is not video from the studio. This has been stated a billion times now from the Rushy quote.
Jesus you peeps are grasping at straws here and I'm having a hard time understanding why. OH MY GOD the game has no jaggies! Must be fake!!
Louis Cyphre
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I don't think anyone can question how good it looks, very impressive. Just waiting now on how fun it is, the A.I. and how much content they are going to provide. Great visuals can only carry a game so far.
Isn't it pretty obvious how much content there is in this game?
bananafactory
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When's the embargo, Blim?
simplythebest
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Oh god.
viveks86
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It is broll video from the studio, though. How do you think mangochutney got access to the raw HQ footage? What Rushy said was that he didn't know who "produced" that video, as in, he doesn't know the guys who uploaded it to youtube. Either that or Rushy wasn't aware that Sony marketing had released broll to the press, which is equally plausible. In either case, it IS video from the studio.
Closer to release so most likely the 5th or 6th.
bananafactory
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Damn. Guessing this goes for reviews as well.
viveks86
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How is that "soon"? I'll be playing the game on the 6th! I wouldn't need Gamersyde footage at that point
There's been gameplay impressions all year and content details recently. Do people have to ignore all of these impressions just because the graphics look good?
Too bad.How is that "soon"? I'll be playing the game on the 6th! I wouldn't need Gamersyde footage at that point
I am guessing they come out the same time.
50 cars with 5 locations and (I think) 50 events. I heard someone say there will be more than 170 new events added as DLC (some with weather too), as well as more cars (free and paid) and free tracks. This support will continue for at least nine months.
We have a pretty good idea about content and the general behavior of the AI. The thing I would like to see is if there are any changes at higher difficulties beyond the outright speed of your opponents.
He said he couldn't recall the exact date, just that it was fairly close to release.
If this source is to be believed, the embargo will be lifted on the 7th.
They're also saying that the multiplayer/club part will only be available to the press from the 3rd.
IAmRandom31
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So they released a video to studios showing a dude running off the road and such? Standard race gameplay?
The only thing that looks like b-roll is the different camera angles shots but there really isn't many of those in those clips. Most is standard race views and just looks like someone is playing.
And then again, we have another 5-6 videos from YouTube that show no jaggies either. So all this is a moot discussion. Those clips are just higher quality then those other videos.
Not from me, is what I mean.
I'm super picky with racing games. I only pick it up if I like it. So, FH2 demo sold it for me, hopefully the PS+ ver. will sell it for me as well, etc.
I still remember going into Gamestop when I was younger and they had a drag race demo for NFSU. Bought it that day... so good.
Anyways, I have a feeling I'll spend more time taking pictures than racing (photo-mode is the bane of my existence... too much time wasted) but if the gameplay truly is like PGR, then I'm sold. PGR4 is still one of the best racing games of all time for me.
mangochutney
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You are wrong.
It is from the studio. It is official b-roll footage. I am quite certain when Rushy said 'I don't know who produced that video' he meant 'I don't know who the YouTuber is that took our b-roll footage, slapped a music track over it, added some text on screen and talked over it but check out this video'.
I repeat again. It is official b-roll footage from the studio.
It isn't complaining, people want this to be real, we're just undecided if it is
bananafactory
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Release day? I thought they were sending copies out early
That's a bit worrying to me, actually. Especially considering *other* racing games had their reviews out the week prior...