Sadly this time, I'm quite serious. I apologize for bringing FH2 into the conversation, that was rude of me.
New Driveclub gameplay
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Sadly this time, I'm quite serious. I apologize for bringing FH2 into the conversation, that was rude of me.
This is the first time Sony is down-sampling a B-roll footage, they never did that with the PS4, they didn't do it with Killzone B-roll, not with Infamous B-roll and with The Order B-roll, DriveClub is the first game and now we can't trust Sony's B-rolls ever again completely, so unfortunate that the gaming industry is so misleading and cannot be trusted.
And i really don't get EVO, how can you produce such IQ if you strive to be visually stunning? who cares about all their gimmicks like Volumetric clouds when your IQ is so bad?
Even the most clueless will notice there is something wrong with your game if IQ sucks, but he will never care if there are some special clouds or not :|
IQ is top priority before everything.
very disappointed.
And i really don't get EVO, how can you produce such IQ if you strive to be visually stunning? who cares about all their gimmicks like Volumetric clouds when your IQ is so bad?
Even the most clueless will notice there is something wrong with your game if IQ sucks, but he will never care if there are some special clouds or not :|
IQ is top priority before everything.
very disappointed.
Because apparently judging games with heavy use of motion blur on screenshots is a thing.
gundamkyoukai
Member
The game looks good , was expecting some small AA problems but other wise it looking great .
When it comes to pics lighting and motion blur can really effect how something looks..
Either way 6 more days to go before i see it for my self.
When it comes to pics lighting and motion blur can really effect how something looks..
Either way 6 more days to go before i see it for my self.
SolidSnakex
Member
Sigh, DigitalFoundry has already looked at a 4 month old build of the game and said that it has some of the best IQ on the PS4. They've seen it. They've played it. They aren't judging screenshots of the game.
WelfareBurger
Member
Can you take some high speed pictures please? 
How's the aliasing in real life?
DirgeExtinction
Member
You're right. They did say that. Hmm..
Anyways he is gushing about how great the game looks an plays but apparently that is not important here.
Yeah. It honestly doesn't do the game justice.
You HAVE to see it running in 1080p with all the bells and whistles...
And man ... DAT HYBRID OST
Posting more videos soon if you guys want, since I'm such a good driver.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Yes, bit if I look closely, I can see the jaggies myself ... but I don't care, have never cared and have never noticed them until they're pointed out. I take the whole screen in when I view something, as I do when I play. This game is as close to photorealism as It can get (at the moment) and yet a few jaggies destroys that illusion? I just don't get it.
Primethius
Banned
All of a sudden, this reminds me of that thread where we got the decent looking screenshots where everyone was going crazy only to be followed by gameplay footage that reassured everyone.
I don't get it, honestly. We have direct feed screenshots, gameplay but some compressed share-mode screenshots are causing concern?
What am I missing?
I don't get it, honestly. We have direct feed screenshots, gameplay but some compressed share-mode screenshots are causing concern?
What am I missing?
FlutterPuffs
Member
Check out the Infamous OT and look how some lost their marbles after some who got the game early posted their screenshots of the game.
Then someone with a good capture card posted a direct feed version, and all faith was restored
Granted, the game's IQ isn't perfect, but I won't be surprised if this still turns out to be one of the most beautiful games out there, even without the weather patch. So relax man. Keep your IQ expectations a tad lower. Don't expect something that's perfect.
Everything looks good but subpixel aliasing? Can't handle it, preorder canceled!
God damn this game looks good
Vire
Member
What are you missing? We received highly down sampled videos last week that got everyone incredibly excited. Fast forward to today where someone actually got the retail version and it doesn't look anything like that.
What is there to be confused about?
It looks exactly the same to me?
Coolbgdog12
Member
I don't believe it. There are mod sanctioned trolls on here?? LOL routine??
Wow.
Anyway I need this.
Wow.
Anyway I need this.
Well apparently this is not part of the routine and genuine concern
Primethius
Banned
So.. people have unrealistic expectations because they can't tell what is or isn't downsampled? That shouldn't be a problem for anyone who isn't fooled by bullshots. Everyone smart was questioning the IQ of those videos, just as they should have been.
Fast forward to today, we get screenshots that show us the quality of the game as we've seen it throughout the months, but in screenshot format. On top of that, it's using the PS4 screenshot feature and are compressed.
Then suddenly, one poster thinks that FH2 looks better then DC. Like give me a break. I've been playing FH2 for the past 6 hours and that's not remotely a contest.
People want to be disappointed with the IQ in compressed screenshots? Be my guest, but lets turn back the hyperbole a bit shall we?
Not sure if you're joking, but just in case.
1) The guy that posted the pics says the game looks and plays great.
2) We've seen direct feed footage and high quality captures that corroborate that assertion.
3) Digital Foundry says the IQ is great and that was an old build.
4) PS4 capture quality sucks.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Car in motion vs stationary car?
boredandlazy
Member
5) Concern.
Vire
Member
So suddenly it's the consumers fault for believing the video's given to them by Sony?
That's some spin if I ever read it...
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
They both look like photos to me, or do you want me to focus on any particular area?
What you seem to not understand is that one pic is in motion with motion blur while the other is not.....
Primethius
Banned
Are you telling me you actually believed that the footage in those screenshots was indicative of the IQ of the game despite all the past footage and no confirmation to the contrary?
Why is everyone so eager to believe bullshots and the like? The same happened with TLOU where people thought a down sampled screenshot was representative of in-game quality. The same happened in the Sunset screenshot thread. It boggles my mind.
Yes, it is. Sorry, but if you believe bullshots without so much as questioning it, it is absolutely on you.
gundamkyoukai
Member
We get some low quality pics (did Rapier use the USB trick) i don't expect perfect AA but best wait a while longer until we get more.
Also speed , lighting and motion blur can effect how pics looks .
This
And this
Look incredibly similar to me, one is just moving.
Except one has completely perfect image quality and one doesn't at all.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
This
And this
Look incredibly similar to me, one is just moving.
The bottom picture actually looks more real than the top one. People are insane.
Ploid 3.0
Member
To be honest, all of the pictures in the first link are in motion. As a pc gamer good motion blur makes things look very nice. It makes games feel smoother also, it's a bit expensive with performance but if you can get it it's nice to have. In the still screens there's no opportunity for motion blur to work it's magic. In the in motion screens you can see the motion blur, especially the confetti pic.
DirgeExtinction
Member
Except that one has cars motion and the other has them stationary.
What sucks is that if those videos weren't released a few days back, I wouldn't have
even been this dismayed. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to put together
such misleading footage ought to be ashamed.
I'd say cancel the pre-order and wait till Evo can confirm future patches are incoming.
Don't reward companies for misleading you.
Are you being serious? Or disingenuous?
Portugeezer
Member
The Driveclub images are not screenshots, there are screen captures from high quality video.
That's the opposite of how it works. Temporal AA works by reprojecting pixels from the previous frame (or previous frames, depending on implementation) into the current frame, to use them just like extra samples in supersampling. The less the scene is changing from one frame to the next, the less complex motion there is, the easier it is to correctly reproject.
AA getting worse in motion is often visible in games that use TAA. It's perhaps most obvious in Halo Reach, since the reprojection turns off when the game detects any appreciable motion at all.
Vire
Member
If you say so, but just check the branches and power lines in terms of anti-aliasing. Motion blur doesn't magically fix the problem.
But yeah, I'm eagerly awaiting more direct screen caps in motion and more videos. I'm not saying I'm going to "cancel my pre-order" or anything ridiculous like that, just that I'm disappointed they don't match the quality of the videos seen previously this week.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
It's not that good tbh... I was disappointed.
Will get PS+ version
OT:
Music/Chile/Norway videos coming soon... Shitty car returns. I haven't unlocked shit yet.
Keep in mind I'm playing under pressure to make this game look good, and this is by no means an easy game o-o
I just unlocked a BMW...
Maybe I'll do another norway vid. The aurora borealis at night is beautiful.
Has anyone asked Rushy if the day 1 patch will include the AA improvements? The b-roll footage going around looked too good to be true. The level of aliasing seen in the more recent videos is more indicative of my expectations.
With that caveat out the way, the game looks stunning.
With that caveat out the way, the game looks stunning.
This
And this
Look incredibly similar to me, one is just moving.
Looks same to me. This game was clearly designed to look best in high speeds and in motion. And that it does. You don't want to stop and look around.
Yeah right.
Uno Venova
Banned
The roller-coaster of emotions in pre-release hype threads are always hilarious.