BronsonLee
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I thought this was a potato sack race!
I like Bruiser and all, but nah super cancelled into NAH
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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I thought this was a potato sack race!
I like Bruiser and all, but nah super cancelled into NAH
BruiserBear
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and who is JohnHarker?
Vire
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That's simply talking about framerate. What does CPU have to do with resolution?...
Krustentier7
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I'm not saying that it's not bullshit. Like, _of course_ there's no good reason to make the PS4 version worse than it could be. But it's also a very miniscule thing. It's not something I would cancel a pre-order or make a 40-page-thread over.
bananafactory
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How long before they backpedal and claim that they were misquoted or offer up a different explanation?
Played farcry 4 at egx the other week and it was smooth (30) and 1080 but the HRAA solution is superb. It had the cleanest display there and you struggle to see any edges or jagged even crawling on textures, Michael is a math genius with his AA algorithms.
Even though this make sense from the cpu limit with the LOD levels and excessive draw calls for one, the whole "we made it the same to stop debates" does sound like BS. Why not say "we chose to make it the same to even sales " and maybe the deal with Ms helped that decision along.
Ubisoft the art of conflict avoidance by creating a bigger sh!t storm ?!!?
JetBlackPanda
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oh you mean that explanation that makes no sense regarding the resolution?
24 hours
CassidyIzABeast
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I'd like to know what CPU they recommend to get 100fps average with a HD 7850 equivalent gpu.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
actually, they do still release DVDs... so yea they do
http://www.walmart.com/ip/37420422?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227025800235&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42973731632&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=81466231232&veh=sem
Just like you can get a 'better-spec'd' version of ACU on PC
Why does this make you want to purchase the XBO version more? If you want to play it on Xbox play it on Xbox. To wish for gimping to avoid your own temptation. Stupid.
It's a shit explanation.
Delusibeta
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Credit will be given for transparency in going 99.9% of the way of declaring that it's a Microsoft moneyhat. Either that, or dude has no idea how PR works. Either way :lol
GribbleGrunger
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I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm reading what Ubisoft actually said. But, eh, if you want to pretend it doesn't exist please continue.
Delusions aren't healthy.
family_guy
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Seems like a bad precedent that I'm not willing to support.
Resolution is GPU bound not CPU bound, pretty sure this has been said plenty of times before.
Mohonky
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So you're going to fling accusations around as fact with nothing to go on but assumptions until said assumptions can be disproven? Thats so logic going on there.
Its little wonder parts of society still see gaming as an arena of immature self absorbed individuals with low social skills. I mean, look at the outrage over what amounts to a number of pixels. Its one thing to be confused or disappointed and asking why; its another thing altogether for so many people in here posting about how outraged they are or this announcement makes their blood boil. Jeez.
As far as I understand, increasing the resolution will have zero effect on the AI and number of NPCs on screen and hence have no effect on the CPU, it will however affect the GPU and the rendering it has to do for these NPCs and as such the game will gain from having more GPU power.
To be fair to the 'CPU bottleneck' crowd, doesn't resolution also affect frame rate? In that, if the CPU is causing the framerate to be locked up to a certain point, wouldn't increasing the resolution subsequently lower the framerate? Not saying I agree with the Ubisoft reasoning, but stating that the CPU bottleneck refers exclusively to framerate fails to include all of the factors.
Chobel
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The one that "Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along." i.e an insider.
Portugeezer
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Depends what "much" means to you. To me, 1080p looks a lot better than 900p, and 900p to 1080p is about a 40% difference in the number of pixels, which is about in line with what the power difference between the consoles is.
+1 Perfect reply.
"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"
They didnt flat out say they have gimped the PS4 version, but to lock them at the same specs due to comparison debates does imply there motives for parity are not based on hardware.
However For all we know the PS4 version was running at 35-40fps @ 912p. To think the PS4 version would have no problem at 1080p 30fps just because AC4 was, does not make much sense, the graphical advantages AC:Unity has, are bound to have some implications on the IQ and performance on the PS4 version.
hell I dont think Ac unity looks all that great im sure if MS sent the A-team to ubi they could get it up to 1080p, like they did with destiny and diablo 3.
Peanut Butter
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There's nothing wrong with not liking the execution, but people take this way too seriously. If I owned a PS4 and read this news, I wouldn't care. If I've been waiting to play the game, I'm not going to skip it all of a sudden just because they held back on the PS4 version to reach parity and prevent arguments
Dreams-Visions
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Damn, there's a lot of anger in this thread.
Does the lower resolution make the game not fun anymore? Not worth playing? I didn't realize gamers were so principled.
Will be picking up on PC, but this doesn't seem like the most compelling reason to cancel a pre-order or refuse to buy the game.
Does the lower resolution make the game not fun anymore? Not worth playing? I didn't realize gamers were so principled.
Will be picking up on PC, but this doesn't seem like the most compelling reason to cancel a pre-order or refuse to buy the game.
Their BS reason is there, but you bolded the wrong quotes. You should have bolded this: "We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff,"
CrackaF3tt
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This is ridiculous. Lowering the quality of one because the other is inferior. Should just make each version the best that it can be.
ComputerBlue
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Just another reason for me to buy this game used.
Kssio_Aug
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Have I said the XB1 is stronger?
Have I even said that the XB1 and PS4 are the same?
No, I havent.
But for me 900p X 1080p does not prove me that the PS4 is MUCH stronger then XB1. Id use that for a difference like WiiU or Wii last gen.
Palette Swap
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Well, fuck your bullshit Ubi.
If it truly is a CPU bottleneck, increasing the resolution should have no impact on framerate.
Krusenstern
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I never thought this would happen.
And I hope this doesn't become standard practice.
Get lost Ubisoft.
And I hope this doesn't become standard practice.
Get lost Ubisoft.
John Bender
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Are you even reading this thread?
DecoyOctopus
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LowParry
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You're obviously missing the point of the thread.
gotstrangepowers
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Is this what will happen with COD? Have the specs for it been released?
You're arguing semantics now though. It's immaterial whether you think it's MUCH stronger. We have actual numbers, there's no need to argue degrees of strength when we already can measure how much stronger it is.
Sweet, so this thread really shouldn't be of any interest to you either way.
It is an anti-consumer practice on Ubisoft's part. If there's one thing we've learned about GAF over the past 1 1/2 years, it's that it's a very pro-consumer forum.
Zen_Arcade
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Then you shouldn't be playing an Assassin's Creed game in the first place.
So play it on your Xbox One. Why does the PS4 version have to be gimped for you to be able to do that?
You have it backwards.
What if you went to the movies, walk in and the movie is played at DVD quality?
"we made the theater and dvd the same quality so that there would be no debate"
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