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[hwy_61]

the difference between 900p and 1080p is so small that if ubisoft didn't say anything, no one would notice except for the ones who make the effort to count the pixels.

DF would expose that shit in 5 nano seconds, so no, you're wrong dude.

 

[fallen_dawn]

Holy hell, I've only read a couple of pages of the thread but damn. Restricting one console to stop discussions about graphical differences? Screw that.

I don't care if Microsoft paid them to, or whether it was a decision from Ubisoft Execs who think that by not having graphical discussions, there will be better overall sales. Either way it's a crap move and I for one will not buy the game.

 

[ShogunX]

It really is amazing seeing the role reversals this gen from last gen. Xbox 360 was always the version to get because it had that slight advantage and fans, journos and clerks had no qualms beating that drum. Wonder how it would went down if devs/pubs suddenly went for parity then to avoid forum debates.

See this is another common misconception. It's almost like people are revising what actually happened in order to suit their needs and cry bias. The 360 getting better versions of games had nothing to do with the power of the machine but more developers finding it hard to program for the PS3. The PS3 was the more powerful console of the two so it's not really relevant to what we are seeing happen now.

To be perfectly honest I fully expect multi platform games to continue in a similar trend whilst on the exclusive side the PS4 will really shine. If you own a PS4 you should be safe in the knowledge that you in theory should never have the worst version console wise.

If you own a capable PC? even better. Multi platform on PC, exclusives on the consoles.

 

[cackhyena]

Why not? it's a valid assumption, this makes zero sense and they haven't even replied. Worse things happen in and outside of the industry, same reason why I don't trust youtubers that sign agreements for early copies or why I don't read "first official reviews", that's how it works.

I don't even...

 

[Deadstarone]

Someone needs to teach Ubi about GPGPU.

Or wait, does that violate parity? Shit, scratch that.

 

[Pain]

It's off topic, but yes I'm serious, and I stand by it.

The PS4s appeal to the mainstream was down to price, not power.

Off topic though as I've said.

Then why does it still keep outselling the Xbox One now that they're the same price? How do you explain that?

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

The same game couple posts ago you had no interest in.

Now im convinced you was asleep when you last posted.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

Isn't there "parity" between PS4 and XboxOne on Destiny? Why isn't there any controversy there?

Don't get me started on that

 

[alr1ght]

Quit embarrassing yourself.

We have a psychic on gaf.

It's Hindle. He just got to the thread so he will still have 8 more hours of ceaseless damage control until he can get home.

 

[VanWinkle]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

Like you always were going to - at 900p on the Xbox One. You're getting the best experience possible on your platform of choice, so congratulations.

 

[Chobel]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

but you "never cared about Assassin's Creed".

 

[travisbickle]

I starting to come to the same conclusion.

Third party devs will likely aim for the lowest common denominator between the console
platforms, due to cost related factors.

I feel Cerny/Sony should have designed an absolute power house with regards to the PS4
as opposed to the marginally better console we ended up with(compared to the XB1).

Why? It would just go unused like it is now. They should have released the same spec at a cheaper price.

 

[Krisprolls]

MS doesn't even need to pay (I'm not sure they did, I don't know). Ubi just wants to make more money and they think they would risk losing customers on XB1, that's all.

I remember when everybody said I was a conspirationist because I said the day 1 PS4 patches which changed resolutions after the reviews were extremely fishy.

Well, as we can easily conclude now, I was right. Devs do indeed choose to gimp their own games, sometimes until after the reviews, sometimes forever. How sad is it for this industry ?

Gimping your games on purpose is shitty, vote with your wallet. I know I will.

 

[TAJ]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

You should be used to it by now.

 

[Mr Git]

Pretty sure it's not rooted in homophobia.

I read that it was rooted in spanking, but whatever its history its one of the the most obnoxious terms the internet has graced us with.

Woops, I misinterpreted that then! Only came across the term generally collocated with usual teenage shite, i.e. "butthurt fggts lol" so assumed it had homophobic etymology! I take it back Polygon. Some of it.

 

[pixellated_man]

this thread sure is a contrast to the dispassionate aloofness in the 30 vs 60fps thread.

Whaaat? There's a next gen game where a 60fps game has been deliberately gimped down to 30fps in order to attain parity? What am I doing wasting my time here - I reeally need to be in that thread instead !

 

[GribbleGrunger]

You guys don't seriously think Microsoft payed Ubi to gimp the PS4 version of the game do you? Seriously?

MS wouldn't approach Ubisoft and tell them to gimp the PS4 version, they would ask them to make sure the XB1 version was the same. This way it's on Ubisoft to make that happen which of course leads inevitably to the PS4 version being gimped.

 

[Hindle]

But Destiny and AC would be the odd releases since they're in the minority in terms of what's been happening so far this gen.

All EA sports games look identical, as does Cod. Assassins Creed and Destiny also are now identical. It seems to me that publishers are choosing to ignore the difference with thier major franchises.

 

[zeelman]

AC games are very CPU dependent, so I can see why they did that. The CPUs in both systems are very similar.

 

[ipukespiders]

the difference between 900p and 1080p is so small that if ubisoft didn't say anything, no one would notice except for the ones who make the effort to count the pixels.

My pay cheque was supposed to be $1080 but they messed up and only deposited $900, oh well. The rent can wait.

 

[Pain]

the difference between 900p and 1080p is so small that if ubisoft didn't say anything, no one would notice except for the ones who make the effort to count the pixels.

Wrong. Digital Foundry would do an analysis and we would all know about it. That's the magic of the internet.

 

[HardRojo]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

But you didn't care about AC, then all of a sudden wanted to buy it. Then I look at your tag, why are you so worried about this topic? I mean, you don't care about AC right? Or do you?

 

[Suikoguy]

AC games are very CPU dependent, so I can see why they did that. The CPUs in both systems are very similar.

Yes, but that does not equally apply to the resolution.

Edit: That's more dependent on GPU and Bandwidth.

 

[Phlebas]

the difference between 900p and 1080p is so small that if ubisoft didn't say anything, no one would notice except for the ones who make the effort to count the pixels.

Oh boy

 

[Lion Heart]

* MS are marketing AC:Unity.
* Post-Mattrick, MS have made great effort to close performance gap.
* MS told Blizzard it was 'unacceptable' for Diablo to not match the PS4 in performance.
* MS enforces parity for release dates and features with indies.
* MS are happy to spend money to impact competitors versions (buying exclusivity etc).
* 3½ months ago, Ubi announces the PS4 version was targeting 1080p/60.

YOU DO THE MATH.

Boom.

 

[impact]

Only 900p oh no how ever will I enjoy this game.

So you just ignored the countless posts calling out your last shitpost ITT and come back with this? Why even bother? We know your allegiance.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Quit embarrassing yourself.

You want to counter his point with actual reasoning other than trying to mock him?

What happened to "this is a neutral grounds where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse..."

 

[mgs2master2]

So the game was originally advertised and targeted as 1080p/60fps and now brought down and some people dont care?

That doesnt make sense. you are purposely gimping your game. Why even do this? So the reason for delaying the game is to downgrade it? What?


Inb4DLC or patch.

 

[SolidSnakex]

All EA sports games look identical, as does Cod. Assassins Creed and Destiny also are now identical. It seems to me that publishers are choosing to ignore the difference with thier major franchises.

Umm..no. Ghosts on the PS4 was 1080p compared to 720p on the Xbox One. That's nowhere near close to identical. As far as EA Sports games, that's not really surprising given the genre.

 

[Rebel Leader]

* MS are marketing AC:Unity.
* Post-Mattrick, MS have made great effort to close performance gap.
* MS told Blizzard it was 'unacceptable' for Diablo to not match the PS4 in performance.
* MS enforces parity for release dates and features with indies.
* MS are happy to spend money to impact competitors versions (buying exclusivity etc).
* 3½ months ago, Ubi announces the PS4 version was targeting 1080p/60.

YOU DO THE MATH.

I got Fish as an answer

 

[Pathfinder]

* MS are marketing AC:Unity.
* Post-Mattrick, MS have made great effort to close performance gap.
* MS told Blizzard it was 'unacceptable' for Diablo to not match the PS4 in performance.
* MS enforces parity for release dates and features with indies.
* MS are happy to spend money to impact competitors versions (buying exclusivity etc).
* 3½ months ago, Ubi announces the PS4 version was targeting 1080p/60.

YOU DO THE MATH.

Um, didn't Ubi say both versions were targeting 1080p/60fps?

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

You want to counter his point with actual reasoning other than trying to mock him?

What happened to "this is a neutral grounds where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse..."

Nothing you say is neutral. Stop it.

 

[Zeuanimals]

I don't normally agree with you, but for once I will.

I buy the Assassins Creed games day 1, with the collectors edition because I collect those statues.

Unity is the first assassins creed game I have looked at and said "this looks broken, I am not sure".

Look at the B roll they gave the press. The game is chugging, the AI doesn't look good at all. The parkour is the only noticeable improvement.The game is unstable at best, and every piece of media is filled with screen tearing and pop in.

Assassin's Creed was never really known for its AI, so can it really be any worse? I mean, have they totally jumped the gun and brought in the Dynasty Warrior devs to show them how AI is supposed to be done?

 

[CLEEK]

Woops, I misinterpreted that then! Only came across the term generally collocated with usual teenage shite, i.e. "butthurt fggts lol" so assumed it had homophobic etymology! I take it back Polygon. Some of it.

I've usually seen it used as 'butthurt faggots' too. So yeah, I've always assumed it's just 4chan homophobia.

 

[moai]

Why not? it's a valid assumption, this makes zero sense and they haven't even replied.

this is so absurd. why would they reply?

 

[Hindle]

Quit embarrassing yourself.

I don't appreciate being mocked by someone who's job it is to remain neutral.

 

[Pain]

All EA sports games look identical, as does Cod. Assassins Creed and Destiny also are now identical. It seems to me that publishers are choosing to ignore the difference with thier major franchises.

All those games are cross-gen. Black Flag and Ghosts run at a higher resolution on PS4....so no, devs aren't ignoring the power difference.

 

[Liberty4all]

It means nothing

Actually it does.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

All EA sports games look identical, as does Cod. Assassins Creed and Destiny also are now identical. It seems to me that publishers are choosing to ignore the difference with thier major franchises.

COD is not identical.

 

[Zoned]

Wasn't the PS3 advertised as more powerful than modern computers because of cell, and that 599 was worth the price for that power?

How did that work again? With the lowest power console (wii) outselling the others, and the one that didn't advertise power coming in second?

Price is king. PS4 had a great price. When they announced 399 I said, "that is a good price, lets go to amazon and pre order now".

Not because PS4 was more powerful. People care about power sure, but price is typically a greater factor.

There is one thing to advertise, and the other is actual data to back it up. X360 had better looking games whether it was Rockstar or EA games. But now PS4 easily beats XOne, and there is no denying of that. Also times have changed. Social media is a powerful tool these days. Even after price cut, XOne is still not selling, and PS4 is easily leading. What do you think the reason behind this?
I'm not saying, power is the only reason, but power is definitely one of the bigger reason people choose one over the other even more so when you have whole resolution/Frames debacle happening on internet.

 

[Chobel]

All EA sports games look identical, as does Cod. Assassins Creed and Destiny also are now identical. It seems to me that publishers are choosing to ignore the difference with thier major franchises.

I will need a receipt for CoD, however FIFA 15 looks better in PS4.

 

[Suikoguy]

this is so absurd. why would they reply?

Actually, they did reply, and it pretty much cemented the idea that something is going on behind the scenes. Check the Kotaku article.

 

[Kagari]

You want to counter his point with actual reasoning other than trying to mock him?

What happened to "this is a neutral grounds where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse..."

You want to not try and backseat mod?

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

But you didn't care about AC, then all of a sudden wanted to buy it. Then I look at your tag, why are you so worried about this topic? I mean, you don't care about AC right? Or do you?

Assassin's Creed is a boring series to me.

But oh my god I bought Assassin's Creed III, and Black Flag! Which I absolutely hated but I bought cause why not let's try it.

Both of which were subHD (360 version for III and 900p for the One version of Black Flag) and didn't hinder my enjoyment of the game. It just seems weird to be so outraged over a game being 900p and to TRY and find cause by accusing the developer of hindering a version instead did maybe, you know, they couldn't get it to run 1080p. Microsoft doesnt have to be involved at all.

I buy every game on the Market because I'm bored lol. I'm buying DriveClub tomorrow because why not. I bought Smash 3DS because why not. I'll buy this like the I bought the last 2 because... Why not?

 

[Rebel Leader]

Actually it does.

Dammit >->

I didn't want them to know

 

[Scofield94941]

Can anyone else picture if microsoft was the console leader and could have 1080p and Ps4 couldnt they would make sure that edge would stay and be advertised? Microsoft is terrible for the gaming industry in my opinion

 

[vpance]

Actually it does.

Boom. Yosp gonna send in da ICE team and fuck some shit up.

 

[ramuh]

Actually it does.

Sad puppy eyes.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Actually it does.

Another clue is in order.

 

[Hawk269]

* MS are marketing AC:Unity.
* Post-Mattrick, MS have made great effort to close performance gap.
* MS told Blizzard it was 'unacceptable' for Diablo to not match the PS4 in performance.
* MS enforces parity for release dates and features with indies.
* MS are happy to spend money to impact competitors versions (buying exclusivity etc).
* 3½ months ago, Ubi announces the PS4 version was targeting 1080p/60.

YOU DO THE MATH.

How does MS telling Blizzard that the Diablo can run at 1080p/60fps instead of 900p/60fps on the Xbox One? Why is that even something you mention? How does that hurt the PS4 version of Diablo?

And your other point about MS are happy to spend money to impact competitors versions of games...umm tell that to all the Xbox One players of Destiny on how Sony paid to have the PS4 version have a lot more content and even the DLC that people will be paying for on the Xbox One will have less things than the same DLC on the PS4 version that Sony also paid for.

Obviously, you did *NOT* do the math.