ViewtifulJC
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Looks like a man whose a bit weary of murdering hundreds of men and women
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Nathan Drake's looking good (Uncharted 4)
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Oh lawd. Noto thiso sh*t again. Yeah he kills a bunch of people - so what? Nobody needs to mention anything about it because we all have eyes to see the killing. And he loves it too. So what??? I also like the killing. That's why I play a third-person shooter.
Yeah, he has that sociopath look. It's good. He looks like the kind of person to step on others to get what he wants, now. I think him being more muscular adds to that.
It isn't the killing. I'd be happy with Elena just calling him, outright, a sociopath. The character needs to be made aware that he isn't a good person. That would be enough.
Hawaii Jeff
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ProfessorMoran
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You put them to sleep when you snap their necks, everybody knows that.
I actually thought this was a new thread at first.
SirMossyBloke
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Burger_Baron
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Welp, there goes my last excuse to trying to reason not buying PS4.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Yes, from the reveal trailer it would appear he is older and married (likely to Elena if I had to guess).
Red Chocobo
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It's amazing how many people don't know the difference between murder and self-defense/survival.
As far as I remember, Drake never killed any unarmed people in any of the games.
How do you look like a murderer? Is there some unspoken profile nobody else knows about?
As far as I remember, Drake never killed any unarmed people in any of the games.
How do you look like a murderer? Is there some unspoken profile nobody else knows about?
immortal-joe
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Damn, dat title change.
Relax guys, some of Nathan Drake's best friends are NPCs.
Relax guys, some of Nathan Drake's best friends are NPCs.
Wishmaster92
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Red Chocobo
Banned
Baby killers!
SirMossyBloke
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Don't get me started on that bastard Pacman.
Those ghosts don't count.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Nathan probably killed the people who later became ghosts in Pac-Man
FlashbladeGAF
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People calling Drake a murder are only really avoiding the truth that in reality they control Nathan Drake, so in a sense... they are the murderers.
Their conscience is crying out for all that digital blood on their avatar's hands.
Rising_Hei
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Snake is not a mass murdered, you could blame him because he's killed some special and very skilled agent and because he had no choice but to do so ... but he did not kill a countless number of people that he's not able to remember them.
Yeah you can kill hundred of people being Snake, but you're supposed to being sneaky and the whole plot of the games revolves around this fact
If Pac-Man attempted to have a coherent story, it would be challenged the same way.
Uncharted tries, and succeeds at time, to have emotional resonance. But it refuses to openly acknowledge that its protagonist is a murderous sociopath. They've touched on it, but they need to bring the hammer down.
Why? What is this "character needs to be made aware" thing? Is that so moralist gamers can be satisfied? So that people can feel comfortable liking Nat even though he kills many people? Even setting aside the fact that he does get regularly called out for his lifestyle by people ranging from villains to friends, all those people he associates with also participate in shooting everybody up (including Elena).
You're talking about someone from a troubled background who grew up on the streets and now associates heavily with the criminal underclass. He's a liar, a thief, a fraud and a murderer and he knows it. But somehow because he's also a charming and likeable guy people seem to have difficulty resolving this in their minds. They want the game to take a nice moral high ground for them and shake a big moralist finger at Drake so that he can hang his head in shame and we can all feel better about everything. It does my head in.
Gilfboinfoacmahuicsmsttp
(guy id like to fuck but only if no-one finds out and calls me a homo unless i can sell my story to the papers)
Doesnt quite roll off the tongue like MILF though.
We can't ever have a nice Uncharted thread in this place. If it's not the why-is-Drake-killing-everybody crew it's the Uncharted-3-is-worse-than-Satan contingent.
Hot daddy.
I'd so have a threesome with older Drake and Fillion!!
dugdug
Banned
That's pretty much why I try to stay away and enjoy it on my own.
Druckmann will get it done.
He's a delusional sociopath, and highlighting that will make him more interesting, whilst also addressing his actions. I'm confident it'll be addressed, if only because of revelations regarding his real identity.
immortal-joe
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Drake likes to go for the headshot when he can, quick and painless.
This other fucker I know.....
This other fucker I know.....
Red Chocobo
Banned
He is when I control him.
Not really comparable given both the companies historiea of in game and cg.
ebullientprism
Member
What about them? Its possible and encouraged in those games to finish without killing anyone. Without even making contact at times.
Drake is a mass murderer, its not even debatable. But in his case, its kinda acceptable since he isnt really ever pitched as the good guy. Just the lesser asshole. Not that different from CoD or any other shooter.
The new Tomb Raider is where shit gets truly hilarious. Especially considering how hard they pitch the whole thing as a vulnerable kid that needs protecting.
bananafactory
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The first gameplay of this is going to break GAF...and all of the internet.
ND is going to deliver so fucking hard
ND is going to deliver so fucking hard
ProfessorMoran
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Pacman is killing those people a SECOND time, it's not enough that they're dead, Pacman's got to kill them AGAIN, despicable.
……forgetit
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I don't get why people call him a psychopathic murderer. He always kills in self defence and other game protagonists have killed more people.
A short scene like this would be fitting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0BCQjbzKeA
Just a short moment where someone is perhaps a bit irritated by all the killing
Naughty Dog always used pre-rendered cutscenes. Just that they were rendered in the game's engine. The character models did always have a noticeable buff though.
For UC4 they said they want to do everything in realtime but well, I believe it when I see it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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So tired of these Drake = murderer posts.
My problem with all the killing in Uncharted is that they build this supposedly relatable character that stumbles upon his way and always barely gets out of a rough spot (aka Indiana Jones), but they completely destroy that characterization by having him kill thousands of enemies.
Worse than that is that the platforming is very poor so the games don`t take advantage of traversing through all those beautiful places and the action they focus on is little more than passable, it`s mostly covering behind walls and shooting at bullet sponges with some clumsy stealth sprinkled in between.
These things combined turn Uncharted into something much, much less than it could be and what it does mechanically, it doesn`t do very well. They`re enjoyable games, Uncharted 2 is a good game, mostly a very fun popcorn adventure with great setpieces, but I think it loses a lot in quality when it tries to appeal to the shootbanger crowd and a simple change in philosophy would make it so much better.
Considering they`re having critical and commercial success, I doubt it will change, but hey, just my two cents.
Worse than that is that the platforming is very poor so the games don`t take advantage of traversing through all those beautiful places and the action they focus on is little more than passable, it`s mostly covering behind walls and shooting at bullet sponges with some clumsy stealth sprinkled in between.
These things combined turn Uncharted into something much, much less than it could be and what it does mechanically, it doesn`t do very well. They`re enjoyable games, Uncharted 2 is a good game, mostly a very fun popcorn adventure with great setpieces, but I think it loses a lot in quality when it tries to appeal to the shootbanger crowd and a simple change in philosophy would make it so much better.
Considering they`re having critical and commercial success, I doubt it will change, but hey, just my two cents.
Ploid 3.0
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They do it when you aren't looking. Women are pervs too.
Wow, just, wow...
I dont even.. I cant even... Wow
Acquiescence
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Well, it's not like "Drake's deception" and a trailer of Nate lost in the desert taking the gun from the hand of a dead corpse buried by sand sound like a lot of fun either
I agree on the first part.
Didn't that same trailer feature some trademark Nathan Drake derring-do towards the end though? A few snappy vignettes of various set-pieces throughout the game if memory serves. Not much, but it goes a long way to remind you that yes, this is an Uncharted game I'm seeing here. And we didn't have to wait that long either. The unveiling of Uncharted 4 is almost a year ago now, and everything we've seen over that time has been deathly serious.
Having said all that though, I don't actually expect 4 to go all grimdark. Maybe a bit more serious in tone, a significant death or two along the way
rip in peace Sully
lukeskymac
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Vague trollish responses that never get into specifics
like yours?
You're the silly man making silly claims, it's up to you to support them, not the others to refute them.
Birgitte2004
Member
If Drake is a mass murderer, so is every character in pretty much every genre except Stealth, Sports, or Puzzles.
And most have a body count HIGHER than Drake's. Compare Drake's kills to that of pretty much any RPG ever and he's barely killed anybody. Some RPGs have you kill more people in the first area than Drake's killed in all his games combined.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
"Hey Drake, that army that was trying to kill you.... you should have found a peaceful way to resolve the situation~ I know I know, they were shooting at you through the walls... but maybe you could have waved a white flag or let your enemies obtain supernatural power."
It's a game people. Samus has killed just as many (space)pirates as Drake. Planets and alien lifeforms are extinguished in her wake. But it's ok because its aliens...
...and its a game.
But I guess the more realistic looking a game gets the more people want the gameplay and story to match.
shinobi602
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Nothing perverted about that, just natural
SirMossyBloke
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I don't understand this stupid murderer crap. He's killing people who are trying to shoot him in the face. Most people call that self defense. Unless of course people would rather play a game where he runs away from everyone and the last 5 minutes is him saying he's going to be a gardener instead. Some people really do completely miss the point of videogames.