10 year old kills 90 year old woman

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/justice/pennsylvania-juvenile-homicide/index.html

The boy admitted to grabbing a wooden cane, holding it against 90-year-old Helen Novak's throat for several seconds and punching her in the throat and stomach, according to the police affidavit.

Kurilla told police he was angry at Novak because she had yelled at him when he entered her room. He said he wanted to ask her a question.

Kurilla had told his grandfather that Novak was bleeding from the mouth, but denied having done anything to her, Decker wrote in the affidavit.

Anthony Virbitsky told police he checked on Novak but found no blood, although she was breathing heavily. He asked her if she wanted to go to a hospital, the affidavit said, but she refused. When he went to check on her less than an hour later, she was dead, Virbitsky told police, and then his grandson confessed that he had hit her.
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As sick at this story is, it got me when she told the grandfather to not take her to the hospital. She really just wanted to die.
 
I don't think she wanted to die as much as she didn't want the 10 year old to get into trouble. Her going to the hospital would have raised a million red flags
 
Oh, man. RIP.

This is sad. That kid is going to have a lot to deal with as he grows older.

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Charging the kid with murder is excessive. This is one of those cases where it's hard to put the blame on anyone.
 
Going to need longggggg counseling for this.

And his life is going to suck now no matter what, no job and no higher education for him.

Oh he has mental issues? I'd actually say in this case that he needs to be kept far away from other people. Who knows when he could snap again, especially during the bitter later years of his life. Shame.
 
10 is old enough to know you're seriously injuring and can possibly kill another person.

Try him as an adult, don't really see much of a future for him anyways.
 
Although the kid is obviously messed, he is 10 AND she was alive and refused treatment. Charging the kid as an adult for MURDER is kind of aggressive.
 
MercuryLS said:
Do an adult crime, do adult time. Fuck this kid, boo fucking hoo you got mad, that doesn't give you the right to beat up on a defenceless old lady. I'd love to see the terrible parents that raised this shitty kid.
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You have no idea why he snapped. She could've been abusive verbally and physically. I'd wait for more details to come out. He's a kid. At 10 your in god damn 4th grade. My little sister got verbally and physically abused and once snapped on her guardian physically. She did not kill her. But her guardian also wasn't 90. You have no idea what some kids go through in life so to say fuck the kid is retarded as he's more than likely a product of the system.
 
Couldn't it be possible that the woman had been emotionally and even physically abusive and the kid had enough? Nooo, couldn't be. Old ladies are sweet and harmless. Not to be held to the standards of everyone else at all.
 
PARTYNEXTDOOR said:
You have no idea why he snapped. She could've been abusive verbally and physically. I'd wait for more details to come out. He's a kid. At 10 your in god damn 4th grade. My little sister got verbally and physically abused and once snapped on her guardian physically. She did not kill her. But her guardian also wasn't 90. You have no idea what some kids go through in life so to say fuck the kid is retarded as he's more than likely a product of the system.
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Millions of children are products of "the system." You're too quick to deflect blame from the child, who committed the act, to everyone-but-the-child, who had nothing to do with it.
 
OpinionatedCyborg said:
A 10-year-old being charged as an adult? the fuck.
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Why can you charge someone who isn't an adult as if they were an adult? It seems like we built an entire system around the idea that children are not able to be held to the same standard as adults, but we frequently make exceptions because we don't actually think that's true.

I honestly don't understand how the system works. It seems really weird to me.
 
Shark Johnson said:
Couldn't it be possible that the woman had been emotionally and even physically abusive and the kid had enough? Nooo, couldn't be. Old ladies are sweet and harmless. Not to be held to the standards of everyone else at all.
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and a kid should not act like that regardless.parents raised poorly doing crap like this.hopefully he gets locked for life.
 
Metaphoreus said:
Millions of children are products of "the system." You're too quick to deflect blame from the child, who committed the act, to everyone-but-the-child, who had nothing to do with it.
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I'm going to let you in on a secret.


Some people experience emotions differently than others. We may have the same environment and it may effect me negatively while you do fine in it. Doesn't mean that said environment didn't contribute negatively to my life and mental state.
 
Shark Johnson said:
I'm going to let you in on a secret.


Some people experience emotions differently than others. We may have the same environment and it may effect me negatively while you do fine in it. Doesn't mean that said environment didn't contribute negatively to my life and mental state.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, yes, my client murdered old Miss Novak in a vicious, uncalled-for attack. But, by God, he feels differently than you or I. And that's your fault. And the judge's. And the bailiff's, too. Maybe you should go to jail!"

I'm not buying it.
 
Funny that everyone here seems to be fine with a 10 years old being tried as an adult.

Kid obviously belongs in a mental hospital though.
 
Syphon Filter said:
and a kid should not act like that regardless.parents raised poorly doing crap like this.hopefully he gets locked for life.
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I have experienced both mental and physical abuse as a child. EventuallyI hoped that my guardian would die. I didn't care how, as long as it happened soonish. I never found the courage to murder my guardian but the one time I fought back I got the worst beating of my life. If the kid was in such an environment as I was then I fully understand why he did what he did.

Also do you hear yourself? "He has shit parents so lock him up forever." The kid didn't pick his parents its not his fault he has shit parents and if that's the case then your basically sayig even tho he never had a shot at life because of something out of his control he should suffer for it for as long as he lives. At the age of 10. Yeah no. Fuck that.

Also as the woman survived thirty minutes after the attack its safe to assume he did not have killing intent. Its not like he beat her until she died. She died from the injuries he had caused her. Also do you guys know how old is 10? A 10 year old isn't old enough to think about consequences like the rest of their lives in jail. Or think rationally for god sake.
 
Syphon Filter said:
and a kid should not act like that regardless.parents raised poorly doing crap like this.hopefully he gets locked for life.
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You'd be surprised what goes on with a lot of kids where the only thing they feel they can resort to is violence, especially when they're neglected, abused and ignored. I'm not speculating that's what happened to him, but the people thinking it's good he's being tried as as an adult when he's obviously got some problems and is still very much a child need to check their priorities.
 
The people wanting a 10 year old to go to jail for life creep me out even more than the boy for what he did.

Oh lovely, if the article is correct, juvie prisons don't take people convicted of homicide in that state. One need not have a great deal of imagination to think of what would happen to a ten year old on a regular adult prison.
 
Skeyser said:
Funny that everyone here seems to be fine with a 10 years old being tried as an adult.

Kid obviously belongs in a mental hospital though.
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We don't actually want to solve problems in America today. We just want to sweep it under the rug, even when it comes to kids.
 
B.K. said:
What? How do you not put the blame on the kid that beat a 90 year old woman to death?
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I don't think I could put the blame on a 10 year old. This is a parenting or undiagnosed mental health issue, based on what I've read.

It's absolutely tragic, but 10 is too young for him to understand the weight of his actions, I think.
 
I think when he grew older, he would ponder whether the grandmother avoids going to the hospital for his sake. It might be a slim possibility, but it's still one and that might just haunt him in future.
 
I find it depressing how rehabilitation seems to be an impossible option for many posters here. Nah, just lock him up forever.

It's upsetting, really. I have been doing a bit of volunteer work with the local community after my month and a half in psychiatric care. I met people who made serious mistakes like this kid at a young age who were given proper support and turned things around.

But of course, lets just shove him in a cell forever and forget about him. Out of sight, out of mind.
 
Fucked up. This whole thing about children not being adults - unless some prosecutor decides differently - is so much bullshit.
It's like ISIS levels of barbarism.
 
lol Treat a 10 year old as an adult. Sure guys.

Get him some serious mental help. That doesn't mean let him go free or not face any consequences, but throwing him in prison won't accomplish anything. It will just waste another life.
 
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