quickwhips
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keep the dream alive bro!
PS4 System Software Preview USB Music Player, New Home Screen Colors, More
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keep the dream alive bro!
biglittleps
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They do because Xbox OS is based on Windows kernel which is already has all the features and they need to tweak a little to Xbox one. But, PS4 is based on completely new OS based on Open source FreeBSD which lacks all the features and it needs to be implemented from the start for PS4 unlike Windows which is already have all of the features they need in some way and just needs some touches for Xbox one in API.
AbandonedTrolley
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Well you haven't been hanging around the forums listening to the shitstore from everyone when it hasn't been announced in the updates. So many people have been asking for it and shitting on Sony for not putting it in there. Apparently they didn't include it so that they sold more Music Unlimited subs...... well that's what people on here would have you believe.
pretty much.
quickwhips
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Plus Sony is developing the OS sooo that doesn't help either.
names2hard4you
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That "add to library feature" is a godsend. That will come so handy.
And it probably means the update is coming early November as that's when the new Xperia devices are getting remote play and it's likely to be included in the new app update.
KaiserBecks
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I guess the "every month" part is important. Who knows when the next PS4 update will happen that doesn't only "improve stability". It took them a year to add MP3 support for crying out loud.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yes. I've had enough of my connection being maxxed out by three/four games attempting to download updates at the same goddamn time.
Such a stupid approach to how the console handles downloads.
I'd rather have it than not, even if it's a workaround. Most games I play really can benefit from having the audio I want to accompany it.
Goodacre0081
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webstore updated with new logo
now get a proper URL. How about playstationstore.com?
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com
ok, new logo. but if you enter the store it's exactly the same... am I missing something here?
Vire
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I don't really get the feature to be honest, they should just automatically tie any new Playstation Plus games to your account. (Not download, just give access for the future)
BronsonLee
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That USB music player thing is A: cool and B: odd. Why not stuff on the HD too?
That Add to Library button is really interesting, since it'll probably cost Sony more money for implementing that one. Very awesome that it's there now, though.
Sony pays the pub/dev based on the amount of downloads, so that won't work.
That Add to Library button is really interesting, since it'll probably cost Sony more money for implementing that one. Very awesome that it's there now, though.
Sony pays the pub/dev based on the amount of downloads, so that won't work.
Kazuma Kiryu
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What, Sony give Microsoft a fight in the OS department? Man, people must have been on drugs or something.
Out of all things, I was most excited by this.
SwiftDeath
Member
lol USB music. Really?
Can't wait for Update 3.0
Is it not obvious that Sony saves money if not everyone who has PS+ acquires a license for every game offered? Whether or not that saved money goes into improving the games offered via PS+ or back into Sony's coffers I don't know but it's imminently obvious why it's done that way.
If in fact the savings do go towards better PS+ games then you as a consumer wouldn't want an auto-add option because your own future game selection would suffer. Personally I'm not really convinced the savings go towards better PS+ game selection though
Can't wait for Update 3.0
Is it not obvious that Sony saves money if not everyone who has PS+ acquires a license for every game offered? Whether or not that saved money goes into improving the games offered via PS+ or back into Sony's coffers I don't know but it's imminently obvious why it's done that way.
If in fact the savings do go towards better PS+ games then you as a consumer wouldn't want an auto-add option because your own future game selection would suffer. Personally I'm not really convinced the savings go towards better PS+ game selection though
Vire
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jimbobsmells
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boredandlazy
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Can into this thread with the expectation a high percentage of people would be shitting on the news regardless of what was announced... I wasn't disappointed.
Strange about the music having to be stored on USB though, surely must be a technical limitation of the way the OS is designed?
As for other changes including notifications about friends logging on etc. there are always little UI fixes with each update that go unannounced. It happened with the PS3 and it happens with the PS4, so until the update actually drops I won't get ahead of myself.
Strange about the music having to be stored on USB though, surely must be a technical limitation of the way the OS is designed?
As for other changes including notifications about friends logging on etc. there are always little UI fixes with each update that go unannounced. It happened with the PS3 and it happens with the PS4, so until the update actually drops I won't get ahead of myself.
sooo we still don't know when this is coming, and they say there are more details to come. how long ago did they first start talking about this update with shareplay? it sounds like it's going to be a huge update, which is nice, but it's a bit frustrating that so many features are being held back for a big update.
You know, this might be a bit nitpicky in the grand scope of things, but to this day I don't think I've ever managed to type in the correct store url on the first try.
It's just so fucking needlessly illogical.
PS4 2.0!
Hyperzephyrian
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The FreeBSD kernel does not "[lack] all the features." Which kernel you're using doesn't matter too much when you're developing this kind of application software. Even if the Xbox One is using ntoskrnl.exe (and I don't know if it does, to be honest), that doesn't drastically simplify things.
BloodMoney
Banned
DLNA............
Not Sony Entertainment Network anymore.
Also web icon changes from SEN store to PSN icon.
Before
Now
Goodacre0081
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same day. might as well add another fucked up network day to the list.
Certinty
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The Last Guardian will come before both.
Mass Effect
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No, custom soundtracks is where a game properly integrates your music into the game. Meaning if we take Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit for example, it allowed you to add your music into the game. It wasn't just simply using the console music player to just play music over the game, but NFS let you pick what songs you wanted to use, where you wanted to use them (do you want this song to play during races or only in the menus?), and properly transitioned when going between racing and back to the main menu.
Examples of proper custom soundtracks would be:
GTA games on PC and on OG Xbox
Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010)
SSX (2012)
there are others, but the point is simply playing music over a game via the console player is not the same as actual custom soundtracks. Hopefully my description made some sense.
Without a way to sort our downloads, they shouldn't.
sankt-Antonio
Banned
I just need suspend/resume, they can keep everything else.
Maybe the harddrive bandwidth is completely saturated by the games while they're running? Seems silly, but I could see that being the case.
FullMetaltech
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They werent kidding when they said Ps4 is like the PS2 era. We know have music back on USBs. J/K. Happy for the update and welcome some of the additions. Im hoping there are some extra stuff not mentioned on the list though.
quickwhips
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That would make to much sense and maybe cost them money...
Gabotron ES
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Great news for PS4 users!
George Claw M.D.
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I wonder if the reason for not allowing media to be stored on the system is due to the new requirement for all games to be installed to the HDD. 500GB is already not very much space for games alone. Maybe Sony want to avoid people quickly running out of HDD space and having to manually manage it.
The only bullet points that do anything for me are the themes and color options, as well as the USB backup. Though, it would be nice to be able to backup to a replacement HDD, then simply swap the internal drive with the backup without having to retransfer everything back. But that's not that big of a deal, since replacing HDDs shouldn't be a frequent thing.
My biggest want is better organization. I hope it's satisfactory. We never even got bare minimum alphabetical sorting on PS3. I hope that at least makes it to PS4.
Lack of suspend/resume is baffling, considering Sony advertised the feature before it was ever even a thing for Xbox. But I guess I can't assume it's easy to implement, considering even Microsoft can't seem to get even seemingly simpler features like screenshots working.
Oh, and I wonder if this update will fix the bug of not being able to delete some notifications.
The only bullet points that do anything for me are the themes and color options, as well as the USB backup. Though, it would be nice to be able to backup to a replacement HDD, then simply swap the internal drive with the backup without having to retransfer everything back. But that's not that big of a deal, since replacing HDDs shouldn't be a frequent thing.
My biggest want is better organization. I hope it's satisfactory. We never even got bare minimum alphabetical sorting on PS3. I hope that at least makes it to PS4.
Lack of suspend/resume is baffling, considering Sony advertised the feature before it was ever even a thing for Xbox. But I guess I can't assume it's easy to implement, considering even Microsoft can't seem to get even seemingly simpler features like screenshots working.
Oh, and I wonder if this update will fix the bug of not being able to delete some notifications.
Looks like a good list of updates already. Themes and folders is something I've been waiting for since launch. Having bought almost every game... scrolling around the menu is very tedious.
Don't really care about USB music. I already use either spotify or music unlimited. I hope the new music player works at least for MU.... and a spotify app would be even better.
Really hoping that the Game Share feature works out how we all hope it does.
I gave up on wanting DLNA. Bought a WDTV Live SMP and couldn't be happier with how it performs. Much better options for streaming content and much easier than what DLNA on a console would bring.
I'd suggest to anyone who is in dire need of a DLNA streaming device, to just get a device made strictly for streaming. You will have less troubles and better quality with the videos.
Don't really care about USB music. I already use either spotify or music unlimited. I hope the new music player works at least for MU.... and a spotify app would be even better.
Really hoping that the Game Share feature works out how we all hope it does.
I gave up on wanting DLNA. Bought a WDTV Live SMP and couldn't be happier with how it performs. Much better options for streaming content and much easier than what DLNA on a console would bring.
I'd suggest to anyone who is in dire need of a DLNA streaming device, to just get a device made strictly for streaming. You will have less troubles and better quality with the videos.
Infinite Xero
Member
This is the big 2.0 update? Music (yay, although USB only is dumb) and some colors? MS is so killing Sony is regards to updates. Is this a US vs Japanese thing?
That's completely up to the game though. For the vast majority of cases, it's going to be muting the game music and replacing it with your own. The first option doesn't even require a firmware update.
petethepanda
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It'd be cool if they expanded voice commands to actually control stuff beyond navigating the home screen.
Sorry, that Library solution does NOT sound adequate to me. FUCK. This is the one thing I need, the ability to sort my games into folders based on my choosing. Not scroll 15 tiles to the right, select my library, then have to sort all 50 by A-Z or whatever and scroll to wherever my app is.
Jesus christ Sony, sort this fucking out.
Jesus christ Sony, sort this fucking out.
