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It's not Stock Android. Other than that, still lots of bugs and crashes and less polish than a "big" player Andoid system.
Google Nexus 6 ($650) and Nexus 9 (Tegra K1, 8.9", $399 for 16GB) Announced
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It's not Stock Android. Other than that, still lots of bugs and crashes and less polish than a "big" player Andoid system.
Absolutely, but since there's really no eta for its release, I may just pick up a white one.
Any idea when we'll be seeing reviews for either product?
WhiskerFrisker
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You don't like the black one? That one looks pretty good.
I almost pulled the trigger and ordered a Nexus 9 32gb in Indigo black. The total came to $532 tax included. I want to see reviews for this thing before I preorder it. It won't even be for myself but for my mom. I might get her an iPad Air depending on sales and reviews.
I think reviews will roll out a couple days before it ships. Hopefully it's sooner because there isn't any information regarding the Nexus 9.
burnside13
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Might have to get a tablet finally. This seems to be a great first tablet.
This can be true depending on the device, but stable builds are very dependable.
Regarding the OPO, I keep seeing criticism about marketing and invite system but fail to see how that has anything to do with the capabilities of the device itself.
Eh, I always get all black devices. And since the front bezel still remains black, I figured I'd mix it up... really wanted the sand color though.
WhiskerFrisker
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The sand does look pretty nice though. It's unavailable for the time being which sucks.
Posted this in another thread but might belong better here. I have a Nexus 7 2012 but want to upgrade.
Cheapest/best way to buy Nexus 9 for delivery to Sweden?
You can preorder it on amazon.co.uk for £399 where release date is November 3rd. But then taxes and shipping will be added making it £422.63 (4 882 sek, $680).
I have a £60 gift coupon on amazon that makes it a bit cheaper.
Ordering it directly from Google makes it 4395 sek ($612) and ships in 2-3 weeks.
Meanwhile a Ipad Mini 3 64 gb would cost 4695 sek ($653) and an iPad Air 2 64 gb 5595 sek ($779).
Another option might be Nexus 7 2013 or IPad Mini 2 together with Kindle Paperwhite/Voyage. I have Kindle Basic now but also looking to replace that.
Cheapest/best way to buy Nexus 9 for delivery to Sweden?
You can preorder it on amazon.co.uk for £399 where release date is November 3rd. But then taxes and shipping will be added making it £422.63 (4 882 sek, $680).
I have a £60 gift coupon on amazon that makes it a bit cheaper.
Ordering it directly from Google makes it 4395 sek ($612) and ships in 2-3 weeks.
Meanwhile a Ipad Mini 3 64 gb would cost 4695 sek ($653) and an iPad Air 2 64 gb 5595 sek ($779).
Another option might be Nexus 7 2013 or IPad Mini 2 together with Kindle Paperwhite/Voyage. I have Kindle Basic now but also looking to replace that.
And those who want it, have to wait for an invite.
IMO, for the most part, CM >>> Stock Android if you are on Nexus. There are some really nice minor touches in CM that makes me never want to use stock Android. Crashes and big bugs are far more problematic on other OEM devices; therefore, don't use CM unless you have Nexus. Some people complain about amount of bugs CM has don't look at the bug database of Stock Android -- it's not as peachy as some people like to think. The other "big" players have bugs that you need to wait forever to fix because they have to go through carriers (and that's if they feel like fixing them).
temesgen77
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I preordered the Nexus Player, really hoping apps written for Kitkat work atleast the ones I plan on using:
WRT the Nexus 6, I recently bought the Oneplus and very happy with the phone. Google really dropped the ball with Nexus IMO mainly due to price. I've owned 2 "Nexus phones" with a Samsung device thrown inbetween mainly bc I love plain Android and want control over my OS and hate skins. The price made Google branded phones more attractive but now that price incentive is gone I'll probably support Oneplus bc Cyanogen is a very good option.
I really hope Lollipop has good compatibility with Kitkat though otherwise we may see the transition to 5.0 hurting.
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WRT to bugs, my Oneplus is very stable, I use it daily quite a bit and touch most of the feature set and have not had many crashes. It is more or less as stable as the last Nexus phone I owned.
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WRT the Nexus 6, I recently bought the Oneplus and very happy with the phone. Google really dropped the ball with Nexus IMO mainly due to price. I've owned 2 "Nexus phones" with a Samsung device thrown inbetween mainly bc I love plain Android and want control over my OS and hate skins. The price made Google branded phones more attractive but now that price incentive is gone I'll probably support Oneplus bc Cyanogen is a very good option.
I really hope Lollipop has good compatibility with Kitkat though otherwise we may see the transition to 5.0 hurting.
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WRT to bugs, my Oneplus is very stable, I use it daily quite a bit and touch most of the feature set and have not had many crashes. It is more or less as stable as the last Nexus phone I owned.
You misspelled Moto X.
I'm assuming they also now have access to drivers and whatnot, so shouldnt have to hackfix everything. Like how they struggled to get old samsung stuff up to 4.0 and thus the support for it all wavered heavily.
WhiskerFrisker
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No not really. The battery life and camera decreases the chances the Moto X has to become popular. The two most popular phones, Iphone and the Galaxy, blows the Moto X camera out of the water. And the Moto X battery isn't that great. Maybe next year if Motorola decides to put some effort into the camera.
Those looking for the stock android experience* in an unlocked^ 5" phone are going to go with (or stick with) the N5 or the Moto X as those are the only real options right now. If the rumored Galaxy S5 GPE does materialize, that will sell like crazy, though.
*Granted the Moto X doesn't literally run stock android, but it is free of crappy skins and bloat. It also won't get Android L as quickly as the Nexus devices, but no non-Nexus phones will.
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Jazzy Network
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Um the Moto X is definitely not free of bloat. Only if you buy the unlocked version. This also goes for every phone in the USA sold through carriers.
Yeah I should have mentioned that. I forgot some people buy their phones through carriers.
WhiskerFrisker
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Or you could go with the Nexus 6. The 6 is what the Moto X should have been sans the 6" display. I tried out the Moto X and I enjoyed it, but I cannot forgive Motorola with the camera. However, it remains to be seen if the Nexus 6 camera will be any good.Look forward to the reviews. With Google's new camera optimizations, it could very good. Hell, if the rumored Moto phone that is the same as the Droid Turbo but on other carriers is true, then that will be great.
6" is just too big for some people, just look at this thread.
If they make a version of the Turbo for other carriers that would be nuts. I haven't seen that rumor.
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So I'm debating between getting this (Nexus 6) and the Sony Xperia Z3v.
I'm restricted to the Verizon network and I narrowed my choices down to the Nexus, Xperia as well as the Note 4 & Droid Turbo. Yet the Nexus and Xperia are in my top spots at this point...
What do people think? I really don't mind having a 6 inch phone, but how much will the Nexus cost on contract? I'm having a hard time choosing. I'll be upgrading from a dual core 1.2 Ghz Droid Razr Maxx, so the difference should be night and day no matter what phone I choose.
I'm restricted to the Verizon network and I narrowed my choices down to the Nexus, Xperia as well as the Note 4 & Droid Turbo. Yet the Nexus and Xperia are in my top spots at this point...
What do people think? I really don't mind having a 6 inch phone, but how much will the Nexus cost on contract? I'm having a hard time choosing. I'll be upgrading from a dual core 1.2 Ghz Droid Razr Maxx, so the difference should be night and day no matter what phone I choose.
Jazzy Network
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Supposedly AT&T will get a version of the Turbo.
WhiskerFrisker
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We'll see how the market responds to the 6" display. If it takes off, then large displays will be the future.
I hope the rumor is true. I'll just regard that as the true Moto X
Decisions, decisions. I face the same dilemma as you except that I do not have Verizon. At first I was set on the Xperia Z3, but then Google announced the Nexus 6 and Android L looks absolutely fantastic and now I want in. Sony will update the Z3 to Lollipop early next year. And I don't know if they will keep the Material Design in their update. The Z3v is a Z2 with the Z3 internals and it looks ugly with Verizon's obnoxious logos. The Note 4 is awesome but Samsung with touch wiz is a no no for me.
The Nexus 6 is expensive, so expect contracts with some high prices unless Google is pulling strings.
All major US carriers prevent tethering.
And also, the ability to pop sim card out of phone and place in tablet.
Not anymore. Its illegal to prevent tethering now, I believe.
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T Mobile does not prevent tethering.
Jzero
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You probably have to pay extra though.
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I was playing 3ds smash online with nexus 4 hotspot on t-mobile last week. Worked pretty well too.
darkazcura
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Personal hotspots (what ATT calls tethering) come with all the mobile share plans as far as I know. I finally switched my me and my mom to the mobile share 10 GB plan, and personal hotspots came with it at no extra charge.
I pay $80 on T-Mobile for unlimited text, talk, unlimited 4G LTE, and 5GB of mobile hotspot (tethering).
Jazzy Network
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Nope. T-Mobile is the only one of the 4 big US carriers that have free tethering with your normal plan.
On Verizon I use it for free on the More Anything plan. I don't use it much, but when in a bind it's a good option.
Actually, no. Sprint is the only one of the big 4 that doesn't allow tethering on normal plans.
neogaffer1
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Where to start?
Firstly, CM has always been buggy and unstable, and when it was just a ROM (albeit a very popular one), that didn't really matter as it brought up-to-date, close to AOSP Android to nearly every handset, even ones that had little to no dev communities. However, problems first started arising with the transition to a company--in the transition, a lot of things were done to "clean up" CM--root was removed and relegated to an optional switch, and then removed all together unless the user flashed it back (or at least this is what they were supposedly planning to be, don't know if this happened or not), advanced settings menus were removed randomly without explanations until the company was officially announced weeks later, and many of those who had committed big parts of the CM code weren't told about the incorporation. This led to a big and very public fight with the creator of the recently unveiled and much touted CM camera, who then pulled his work from CM. This alone left a bad taste in many mouths for CM--the most open, most free symbol of the dev community had turn its back on its original principles in order to go mainstream.
On top of all this, there's still the question of on-time updates for the OPO. I don't know if this has been disproven, but there was a lot of questining on whether CM could actually properly support a product with stable, up-to-date software. Up until the unveiling, and probably even now, CM tends to reach new Android versions quickly, yes, but then it spends an eternity just adding features and reaching a stable state. In fact, it's not uncommon to see CM release a stable release of a CM version for an Android update after the next Android version is already announced.
Keep in mind, all of this is based on back when I kept my ear close to the ground regarding the Android dev community. At some point I just faded out of paying attention to this stuff and am only really now paying more attention to the dev community.
AT&T won't tether with my grandfathered unlimited plan (feel like I'm the only person still with one of those...). I think AT&T and VZW both block tethering unless you pay for it or have a Mobile Share plan, which is just not a good investment.
Unlimited plans have not been "normal" plans for quite a while.
Mobile Share plans (normal plans) are a better deal than unlimited if you have multiple lines. Hell, I'm on a 30GB plan with 4 lines which is effectively unlimited for me and it's way cheaper than if everyone had old unlimited plans.
I would agree for a single user, though. However, it's so refreshing to not have to worry about enabling tethering in a roundabout way, especially for me since I switch between my iPhone and Android phones frequently.
neogaffer1
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Yeah, I'm upgrading my 2012 Nexus 7 too. It's held on for the past six months or so as a nice eBook and comic reader (as long as WiFi is turned off, turn it on and lags so hard it's unusable) but it's time to retire it.
For an eight person business plan, it wouldn't really work. If we paid the same amount we pay now but for a Mobile Share plan, we'd get 20 gigs (at least according to the friendly neighborhood AT&T rep). Three of our users alone (including me) use up about 24 gigs each month.
Cheapest option? Get someone who is out of country to buy it and bring it back for you.
Otherwise you'll have to put up with our taxes and if not them shipping costs which will put it back at the same price anyway.
Yeah, I'm sure there are cases where unlimited is still better.
Just for fun though...
Right now you could get a 40GB shared plan, with 8 lines, for $270/month. Caveat is this is the no contract price, so phones would have to be paid for in full. If you're paying less than that with 8 unlimited data lines, then that's pretty amazing. (For reference, if you wanted to be on normal 2-year contract plans, this plan would cost $470/month).
60GB with 8 lines would be $345/month ($545/month on contract).
The one thing that makes new shared plans worth it is if you can go without subsidies. This kinda relates to this thread since the Nexus line was very friendly to this type of plan with the Nexus 4 and 5; not anymore, though.
neogaffer1
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Most of the users get iPhones, tried to tell everybody to move to T-Mobile (genuinely would've been cheaper by a whole lot), losing subsidy scared the person in charge of that type of thing. We pay $600/month, including unlimited everything and calling to Canada for half of the lines. We also have a few other lines for dumbphones and the like. And at the same time, we used a total of roughly 50 gigs last month. So while the 60 gig pool may save us some money (which I doubt when all the extras we have), it's really not worth giving away something impossible to get back.
Some still struggle. The openness of Nexus devices plus having the stock code as stable reference makes them the most stable of all CM devices.
Yeah mine is dog slow but I'm interested to see whether Lollipop makes things better or worse.
Does Google just not give a shit about advertising its phone at all or what? Don't really get why information have been so scarce...there's been one brief video from the UK phone company..couple pictures and that's it. There haven't been any previews from a credible source, barely any user/real life pictures or videos. Sigh..
WhiskerFrisker
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This is the same company that decided against having a press conference or keynote for its phone, instead opting for a blog post.
I'm sure advertisements will ramp up the closer we are to release. It's on every major carrier in the U.S so I'm assuming Google wants to raise awareness for it.
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650$ is lot and plus tax here in Canada.
I am sure it will sell regardless and they will sell out soon.
I am sure it will sell regardless and they will sell out soon.
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