Google Nexus 6 ($650) and Nexus 9 (Tegra K1, 8.9", $399 for 16GB) Announced
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Deadly Cyclone
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For the wireless charging do we need to buy a special base? Who sells those?
edit: nvm, thought you were talking about the 6 not having it.
Still disappointing the 9 doesn't have it.
I snagged a red one and it must have been the last one because it was out of inventory right after I made the purchase and refreshed the page.
We don't have pre-orders or a firm release date yet, so the majority of tech outlets may just not have their review phones yet.
Also: If you are the kind of person who wants a 6-inch phone running the pure Android experience, you don't realistically need to be advertised to, you already know this phone exists.
CharmingCharlie
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There are dozens of Qi chargers on the market. Any Qi charging pad will charge a Qi device. I have two different charging pads for my Nexus 5 and it just works.
Still trying to figure out if the Nexus 6 will be a good all-in-one solution for me.
Consolidate Nexus 5 and full size iPad to one device.
Sounds great in theory, we'll see how the thing is in person though.
I held an iPhone 6+ yesterday (which has similar physical dimensions as the N6) and it didn't feel large to me at all.
Consolidate Nexus 5 and full size iPad to one device.
Sounds great in theory, we'll see how the thing is in person though.
I held an iPhone 6+ yesterday (which has similar physical dimensions as the N6) and it didn't feel large to me at all.
SolidSnakeUS
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Nexus 9 preorder has been placed! Can't wait to get my hands on itin November
I'm waiting for the Sand color, so I'm waiting longer
.I really need to see the N6 in a story some day to decide if it could possibly be a good phone for me. But I'm afraid a 6 inch screen is just not for me.
Have you tried smaller tablets before? You might be surprised how much you miss the extra real estate coming from a full-size iPad, but it depends heavily on what you plan on doing with the device. I was on an iPad Mini for awhile on the tablet front, and while for 80% of stuff it was great, I really missed that bigger screen for certain tasks.
Google wouldn't bother making a phone they wouldn't want to sell. I would imagine the point of this phone is to test the limits of what people want out of a phablet, and showcase Android L on a big phone with a giant battery, the kind of phone that plays well to the new bullet points in this version (Material Design, Project Volta).
neogaffer1
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Maybe we're going at this the wrong way. Maybe Google doesn't want this phone to sell. Right now we're seeing this idiotic trend of bigger and bigger phones with higher and higher res screens at high costs for no reason other than the numbers look good and the carriers like it.
Meanwhile, the Nexus line sells incredibly well and has always done well, without needing carriers or completely specwhoring to the limit.
The Nexus 6 is the latter, rather than the former. It's big, with big numbers, including price, and it will only sell at a reasonable price through carriers. Google doesn't need to make much profit on these devices, because they have more important revenue streams.
I think Google wants to show OEMs that big with big numbers selling on carriers doesn't always sell. The Nexus 6 will do worse than past Nexus phones and Google can show LG/Sony/HTC/Samsung (last three not so much) that phablets don't sell.
Meanwhile, the Nexus line sells incredibly well and has always done well, without needing carriers or completely specwhoring to the limit.
The Nexus 6 is the latter, rather than the former. It's big, with big numbers, including price, and it will only sell at a reasonable price through carriers. Google doesn't need to make much profit on these devices, because they have more important revenue streams.
I think Google wants to show OEMs that big with big numbers selling on carriers doesn't always sell. The Nexus 6 will do worse than past Nexus phones and Google can show LG/Sony/HTC/Samsung (last three not so much) that phablets don't sell.
What possible reason could they have for doing that?
I'm 100% sure this is false. You don't develop a product and hope for it to to fail. That makes absolutely 0 sense.
I'm not sure a smaller tablet would solve my problem. In fact, it could make things worse.
I find myself using my 5" phone for everything around the house and not touching the full size iPad. Seems like it would be silly to have both a 5+" phone and a 7" tablet.
Occasionally I'll watch TV/sports with the iPad, but between having TVs and computer screens, it seems a bit redundant. I also don't travel a whole lot.
Yeah, I don't doubt that. I guess I phrased that poorly, that was meant to be "Have you tried doing your tablet stuff on a smaller screen to see if you're okay with it?" rather than "You should just get a smaller tablet." Quite the contrary, having a giant phone was a big part of my push back to a full-sized iPad.
ActiveRush
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I disagree with this on the whole. It might be true that google doesn't like the trend of big sized phones with monstrous specs but that doesn't mean that their trying to prove a point. I would think if they were trying to prove something they would market this device more and the let the results speak for themselves. Also the nexus line has up till now always been a developer phone meant to showcase the latest version of android not a mass market device.
So you have both a large phone and full size tablet?
I recently went to a 5S, but yeah, before that I had a Galaxy S4 and an iPad Air. They occupied enough different use cases for me that it felt worth it to keep the latter around. I don't feel like a phablet would've changed my opinion on that, but who knows for sure.
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My take on this is that the point of the Nexus program has always been first and foremost as a developer phone. It was provided cheap but it always had one or two glaring defects, usually battery and camera as if to purposely make it less attractive than it was. It's also a reference device to show developers what they should be developing for and for OEMs to showcase their visition of how Android should be in their future devices. This made a lot of sense when Android was growing and Google needed a fleet of developers to create quality apps for their platform.
Since then, times have changed. The Play Store has any app anyone could imagine, OEMs are making bigger and better phones. Now the complaints of the people (which Google seems to have acted upon) are how OEMs are mangling the Android experience with their custom skins. The point of offering cheap phones vanishes when you own the vast majority of the market and you have a massive number of apps and developers behind your platform.
So what would make sense at that point? Either withdraw completely from the market or start making premium devices much like how they did with the Chromebook Pixel and how Apple does the iPhones. A premium Android device, built to be sold to users, not to developers, hardware and software by Google at a premium price. Obviously, that was the rumoured Silver program. It would attack the iPhone directly, hardware and software built in harmony, the cream of the crop of Android. But for some reason, maybe even just public reaction, this was scrapped. Maybe people loved the vanilla Android experience but it was sweeter at the 'Nexus price', something, which by the way, has existed for only two generations of phones and tablets. What to do? They reached out to Moto, hastily designed a larger Moto X and called it the Nexus. The reason it's a phablet is twofold. Firstly, the vast majority of Android flagships these days are massive, with large, high pixel density screens. Well designed apps these days have both phone and tablet layouts, but not many apps have been designed to make the best use of these massive 'phablet' screens, even though they are becoming more prevalent. With Google release something which is clearly half tablet half phone, they are stating: "This is where it's at right now. Develop apps which work great on this sort of resolution and size." Furthermore at least if it had a high quality large screen they could at least justify the price point of a product line they're essentially trying to kill. The last hurrah, if you will.
So I think this is the last hurrah of the Nexus phones. I think the next iteration of Android will at no point be considered a 'Nexus' in the traditional sense. It probably won't be a slightly restyled existing phone. It'll probably be designed from the ground up as a new device and while it may not be a 'Silver' device, it will be meant to be a premium device at a premium price.
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I use an OPO and iPad Air, I don't think even a 6+" phone could reduce my need for a full sized tablet. I actually want tablets to get bigger too. I think ~12" would be pretty great.
You do know that isn't true at all right? The nexus line was always a niche to appeal to developers and hardcore geeks. It never has been a mainstream product ever it's market share was near nonexistent.
It also always had high end specs at the time of release as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not even entirely convinced that they have foregone their pricing policy, the 6 is cheap for a six inch phone and the 9 isn't exactly expensive for a 9 inch device either.
Sure they are both more expensive than the 5 and 7, but they're also bigger in both cases. I wouldn't be too surprised if we get a new Nexus 7 and 5 come spring alongside these two devices.
I agree. Especially since it has nothing to do with specs either in terms of what changed. it was the claim that the nexus phones were a huge seller that was innaccurate. They never were big sellers. They were never meant to be.
neogaffer1
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The Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 both sold insanely well due to pricepoint. I know people who aren't remotely tech geeks who have a Nexus 5. Similarly, there are a very large amount of people who own a 2013 Nexus 7 who aren't geeks either, although that's mainly because of it being in every Best Buy and it being nearly half the price of a competing iPad Mini.
The nexus 4 and 5 did not sell insanely well. What in the world are you basing that off of? Because you have friends that had them?
Let's take a look at the most recent top 10 selling phones numbers I can find. The top 10 selling smartphones of may 2014 worldwide. Nexus 5 isnt in it not even in the lower half. It's a niche product and that is fine because that is what Google made it to be.
Top 10 best-selling smartphones worldwide in May 2014:
http://news.yahoo.com/apple-samsung-dominate-list-top-10-best-selling-100853996.html
1. Apple iPhone 5s
2. Samsung Galaxy S5
3. Samsung Galaxy S4
4. Samsung Note 3
5. Apple iPhone 5c
6. Apple iPhone 4S
7. Xiaomi MI3
8. Samsung Galaxy S4 mini
9. Xiaomi Hongmi Redrice
10. Samsung Galaxy Grand 2
Also here is the top 10 from Feb 2014. No nexus 5
www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/201...s-still-the-top-selling-smartphone-worldwide/
I am not going to search around for every month but I guarantee you the nexus 5 never cracked the top 10 once
BoboBrazil
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The real reason they increased the price is to appease the carriers. There is a reason this one is on every carrier.
neogaffer1
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Outside of the fact that there's no source for that list (I'll be incredibly surprised if the Galaxy S4 mini was one of the bestselling phones of May 2014) selling incredibly well != selling the best.
Maybe you don't remember, but both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 were insanely hard to get around their launches. Nexus 4 in particular had trouble meeting demand for a good six months or so after it went on sale. For the first Nexus 7, Asus flat out said that they were selling a good one million per month. And the first Nexus 7 wasn't even very popular compared to the 2013 version. Nexus devices aren't just dev phones any more. They're a viable consumer choice.
The source is accurate . they been tracking phone sales for years and years. It's the NPD of smartphones essentially.
And it is hard to get because they are produced in small numbers. It's a niche line. Sales of the device match that.
The nexus tablets had a marketing push unlike the phones and were in major retailers. They aren't a nearly as much of a niche product like the nexus phones.
Your conspiracy theory just doesnt line up with the realities of the smartphone market.
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What in the world would be the point of this?
These phones are loss leaders to get people to become interested in Android. I'll bet Google is losing money on the Nexus line.
neogaffer1
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The Nexus 5 sold so well that it cannibalized sales for the LG G2.
A niche line that sells "small numbers" just doesn't kill sales of a flagship like that.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'm switching from the iPhone 6 Plus to the Nexus and am on Verizon. When my Nexus gets here can I just swap the sim from my iPhone to the Nexus and everything will be working?
neogaffer1
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Assuming they use the same SIM tech, yes.
It also always had high end specs at the time of release as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not even entirely convinced that they have foregone their pricing policy, the 6 is cheap for a six inch phone and the 9 isn't exactly expensive for a 9 inch device either.
Sure they are both more expensive than the 5 and 7, but they're also bigger in both cases. I wouldn't be too surprised if we get a new Nexus 7 and 5 come spring alongside these two devices.
SolidSnakeUS
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And really, it's for good reason. The Nexus 5 is an amazing phone for the price.
I just hope to god they make another, much better innards and actually work on Verizon lol.
Jzero
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Why are you switching so fast?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I originally wanted the new Nexus but they haven't been on Verizon forever, so I jumped at the 6 Plus after my iPhone 5. I like the 6 Plus, but would rather jump back to Android with the Nexus (had a Droid X before my iPhone 5).
Yes it will work, I think the nexus6 uses nano-sim also.
I am switching too but from an iphone6.
For me it's because I feel Apple is all about owning Apple products for the ecosystem but I find their products and updates to expensive for what they are.
Also they shit on the uk with everything taking to long to get here.
That's why I'm jumping over to google, their cloud and map services are far better and I'm finding lollipop way ahead of ios8.
The article is making an assumption, they dont have a source for that price (650 USD = 733 CAD = 750 CAD). Given that Nexus 5 is priced the same in the US and Canada, I would assume that google will do the same with Nexus 6.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Cool. So the only thing I'll really need to do is disable iMessage on my iPhone before switching the sim? When I pop the sim into the Nexus I should be able to get calls and everything right away?
If I don't have to go into the Verizon store that will be nice.
Triggerhappytel
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If the Nexus 9 is priced sensibly I might consider getting it, as my wife and I share a first gen Nexus 7 which is fine for our needs, but the gadget geek in me would love to upgrade. However I really like the Sony Xperia tablet range too, so it'll need to be priced below those (about £330 new, when last I checked).
Hot damn you're in for a treat
evanswolves
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The Nexus 9 has been up for a few days now, starting at £319
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_9_black_16gb_wifi
Plus £10 postage. Better buying it from somewhere like Amazon.
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