Fighting Games Weekly | Oct 27-Nov 2 | A Lot Of Shit Went Down

Yep, that shit already made its way into 2D fighters:
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This look like anything Goh would wear? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CakjWulogoo#t=638



Put customization like that in any game and the first thing people will do is recreate characters from other games, movies e.t.c.

Well that individual design is out there... but it's just his bikini outfit but only the jacket, mask, and shoes added on. Yeah, without the shirt and pants the entire getup looks wacky, but those customs themselves I can definitely see them belong in the game and I'm more content with that. And the accessory or the flares on their feet don't glow as obnoxiously as in TTT2. You can look at this guys Goh and then you can compare that with Junggding's Eddy (or worse Nobi's) and one is definitely more intolerable than the other.

EDIT: And it also has to do with the fact that VF provides so many more options for the Torso and Lower body for people to make a design that's not so obtuse. TTT2 just gave you a paltry amount of Upper and Lower body attires but then flooded the system with these ridiculous accessories that turns everything into an ugly clusterF.

Is that Decal stuff for the WiiU version?

WiiU version had a more analogue system in place for making your own specific designs that wasn't in the PS3/360 version. But the customs I posted above are all from the PS360 versions.
 
imo customization is not about trying to keep in tune with a characters personality but instead embedding your own.

I agree, that's why I like customizations. To me, it's all about taking characters and making them your own, through playstyle or visuals.
EDIT: And it also has to do with the fact that VF provides so many more options for the Torso and Lower body for people to make a design that's not so obtuse. TTT2 just gave you a paltry amount of Upper and Lower body attires but then flooded the system with these ridiculous accessories that turns everything into an ugly clusterF.

Tag 2 has much simpler customization than T6 for obvious reasons. Now that they are back to 2 characters only (and new hardware) in T7 I expect customization to be back to at least T6 levels.
 
My issue with some of the customization options in TTT2 is that they are actually distracting in-game. VF lets you create some really ugly custom outfits, but they're all designed to not be distracting. Whereas some of the accessories in TTT2 actually make it way harder to read animations in-game. That's why you see the shields so goddamn much, because they can make reading throw breaks really hard if they're facing the camera. It think some of the issues with TTT2 customs come from how it's flexible in certain areas (color edit, decals) and so limiting in others (mainly due to the lack of options for adjusting outfit sets).

Hopefully T7 will have more flexibility being 1v1 and on more powerful hardware, but it looks like at least some of the dumb customizations are staying around. Or just release a PC version with Steam Workshop support and let the community go absolutely crazy with it. :V
 
It's like I've been saying forever, just give people a toggle option to disable accessories and costumes. If people want to make their character a walking shit show that's their choice but I shouldn't have to suffer through it online. As long as they can still see it on their end then I don't see why it matters.
 
It's like I've been saying forever, just give people a toggle option to disable accessories and costumes. If people want to make their character a walking shit show that's their choice but I shouldn't have to suffer through it online. As long as they can still see it on their end then I don't see why it matters.

Meh, I guess. Its a good balance between the two even though one side should honestly just be banned from doing so.
 
Gong back to Bumblebee's post, I'm not against customs and when done right they're pretty cool. It's the accessory overload that kills it. And even if you look at all the great customs in TTT2:

Those are all really well done because of the Decal customize system. And NONE of them have those stupid auras and glowing outlines on them that plagued the Mastercup stream. What I want eliminated are those ones that don't contribute to anything. Just look at the massive list of Aura's and accessories that legitimately serve no purpose and will never contribute to cool designs like seen above. Again keep the decal system because those are legitimately well done:



But alas, that one good thing might end up getting removed for the idiots that like to abuse it:

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Sure there are stupid ones... but they're not as retarded as unbelievably retarded Tag2's. At least from what I've seen.

EDIT: Thinking about it more, the decal system really was only ever used to make Tekken characters cosplay as others, there really aren't very many good original designs out there... and that's one thing that Tekken is really starving for ever since it stopped innovating its character designs after T5.
WTF I didn't know TTT2s system was this powerful.
 
Gong back to Bumblebee's post, I'm not against customs and when done right they're pretty cool. It's the accessory overload that kills it. And even if you look at all the great customs in TTT2:

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I actively went out of my way to make a hideous costume for my main team (Lars and Kunimitsu):
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But at the same time I'll spend an hour on others:
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(I have a crap ton more but can't be arsed to post 'em)

As I said before, there should be a compromise between both. TOs can have their rule of "No hideous costumes" (fair enough) but Bandai Namco should let us have those silly costumes. If you face 'em online...oh well. Tournaments I understand. I enjoy customising in Tekken (and Soul Calibur).

Reminds me of Fighter Maker

check out my Bayonetta

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inspired by tekken customs

OOOH DAMN!
 
you're not wrong!(Neverrmind the MW anime player got blown up at KiT last year).

Thanks people, didn't expect to get so many replies. I am excited to get some extra cash though, it nice.

P.S TN does have weakness, we actually put up the money to bring players in for our benefit as well. We have strength in Tekken and a bit in SF, but everything else needs work.

Large pot bonuses will not help improve overall attendance apart from only a handful of top players, maybe. It's a poor way to market an event to average fighting game players. So when Vandy posts in a community FGC Facebook group advertising KiT by mentioning "large pot bonuses and top players", I want to reply "well the latter will be taking all the former so why should I even attend?"

I hope the person putting up the money for pot bonuses REALLY loves fighting games and isn't expecting to get a return from venue fees.
 
Large pot bonuses will not help improve overall attendance apart from only a handful of top players, maybe. It's a poor way to market an event to average fighting game players. So when Vandy posts in a community FGC Facebook group advertising KiT by mentioning "large pot bonuses and top players", I want to reply "well the latter will be taking all the former so why should I even attend?"

I hope the person putting up the money for pot bonuses REALLY loves fighting games and isn't expecting to get a return from venue fees.

The people who put it up do believe in the games, and know the risks involved. Anyways, we believe in our tournament and we have players coming, so whatevs. I get that you're from the midwest so you have no hope of winning money, but I'm sure other players might give it a shot :D

Keits had it right in going after the 60/30/10 structure and trying to pay down as far as possible. MTG's open events regularly pay to Top 64+ and it fells nice to get something if you make it deep into the tournament, even if it's just a net ten bucks.

Tbh if I were in charge I would take that big pot and pay it down into top 8, but that's not my call to make.
 
Large pot bonuses will not help improve overall attendance apart from only a handful of top players, maybe. It's a poor way to market an event to average fighting game players. So when Vandy posts in a community FGC Facebook group advertising KiT by mentioning "large pot bonuses and top players", I want to reply "well the latter will be taking all the former so why should I even attend?"

I hope the person putting up the money for pot bonuses REALLY loves fighting games and isn't expecting to get a return from venue fees.
Keits had it right in going after the 60/30/10 structure and trying to pay down as far as possible. MTG's open events regularly pay to Top 64+ and it fells nice to get something if you make it deep into the tournament, even if it's just a net ten bucks.
 
The people who put it up do believe in the games, and know the risks involved. Anyways, we believe in our tournament and we have players coming, so whatevs. I get that you're from the midwest so you have no hope of winning money, but I'm sure other players might give it a shot :D

Of course an even better way to get players from a region to attend your event is to insult them. Especially when that region is in fairly close geographic proximity to yours.

Edit: Regarding payout structure, I believe that KiT15 is paying out to Top 8 for the four events with the $2,000 guaranteed pots (USF4, UMvC3, TTT2, and Injustice). Everything else is just Top 3. I am also unsure on whether the guaranteed pots advertised are in addition to the tournament entry fees or not (i.e., if 60 people enter Guilty Gear Xrd at $10 per person is the total pot then $1,600 or still just $1,000).
 
Customizations in TTT2 are ass to look at most of the time... please let there be a filter so I don't have to see other people's abomination.
 
Of course an even better way to get players from a region to attend your event is to insult them. Especially when that region is in fairly close geographic proximity to yours.

The only player I really talk shit to is you, since you like to instigate on here. I had Shinsyn here last year and was great, and I have nothing personal against any MW players. I enjoy talking some smack about playing the game, and that's it. If you can't separate that and want to keep personally coming at me on here or not show up that's fine by me, I could really give less of a fuck.

As far as payout goes that's correct(slipped my mind, Vandy would've yelled ta me to correct it later anyways), but it's only the four out of quite a few. I wanted Xrd to payout deeper, but ah oh well.
 
Keits had it right in going after the 60/30/10 structure and trying to pay down as far as possible. MTG's open events regularly pay to Top 64+ and it fells nice to get something if you make it deep into the tournament, even if it's just a net ten bucks.

Keits was very tactful in terms of how he treated his tournament goers. He wanted it to not feel like a tournament, with all the pressure and anxiety that comes from it to perform, and just play games for fun. I really loved that mugen night he had.
 
The only player I really talk shit to is you, since you like to instigate on here. I had Shinsyn here last year and was great, and I have nothing personal against any MW players. I enjoy talking some smack about playing the game, and that's it. If you can't separate that and want to keep personally coming at me on here or not show up that's fine by me, I could really give less of a fuck.

As far as payout goes that's correct, but it's only the four out of quite a few. I wanted Xrd to payout deeper, but ah oh well.

I've never brought up regional stuff with you on here. Both my posts today had nothing to do with the midwest or southeast or anywhere. I was just expressing my opinion on large pot bonuses based on my experience running tournaments. If anything it's always been you raising the issue of regions. In the case of our argument during Evo your comments about the midwest were completely unprompted and I was responding to that. I don't know how I'm supposed to intuit that it's just smack talk.

I know Shinsyn went last time. He's planning to go again. Other Chicago players who went last time are not.

I'm not planning on going to KiT15, but I never was. I'm not planning on attending NEC or SCR or pretty much any other non-Evo FGC event unless I'm unless I'm playing a key role in the organization and operation (and even that's not always a guarantee of my attendance). Not to mention that I'm super busy with real life stuff from now until late January anyway.
 
The people who put it up do believe in the games, and know the risks involved. Anyways, we believe in our tournament and we have players coming, so whatevs. I get that you're from the midwest so you have no hope of winning money, but I'm sure other players might give it a shot :D
Looooooool damn
 
I'd really love to play some but netplay is bad for me ;_; Like I can't even do the IAD BnBs online.
I know that feeling, doing makoto drive combos online where everyone you play could have different timings JUST NO


Though somehow I can FRC in gg's wack code but think that's more from that shut being ingrained into my body at this point
 
Uh huh. Look, I know you don't like me because I ragged on Pops after the UFGT incident and Evo, but it's whatever. You know exactly what you're doing, so I'm just going to leave it here.

I'm sorry, but how was what you quoted in any way a reflection on Tennessee's players? KiT is giving out big pot bonuses as did the person who ran the event you won. If you felt that the way I said it made it sound like I said "TN is free", then I assure you that was not my intent. But don't try to paint it as if I said something else.

To everybody else, there's not going to be a first to 10 so calm your pants.

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I laughed
 
I'm sorry, but how was what you quoted in any way a reflection on Tennessee's players? KiT is giving out big pot bonuses as did the person who ran your event. Don't try to paint it as if I said something else.

Also what "UFGT incident"?

To everybody else, there's not going to be a first to 10 so calm your pants.

First to 10 paragraph essay
 
My issue with some of the customization options in TTT2 is that they are actually distracting in-game. VF lets you create some really ugly custom outfits, but they're all designed to not be distracting. Whereas some of the accessories in TTT2 actually make it way harder to read animations in-game. That's why you see the shields so goddamn much, because they can make reading throw breaks really hard if they're facing the camera. It think some of the issues with TTT2 customs come from how it's flexible in certain areas (color edit, decals) and so limiting in others (mainly due to the lack of options for adjusting outfit sets).

Hopefully T7 will have more flexibility being 1v1 and on more powerful hardware, but it looks like at least some of the dumb customizations are staying around. Or just release a PC version with Steam Workshop support and let the community go absolutely crazy with it. :V

Cant they just make it so, you can turn off enemy customizations (besides weapons of course) on your end. So on your opponents screen you will still see the customization but on your screen it will be off (assuming this is online multiplayer where each player is playing on an individual screen).
 
Too many first to ten's. I think I might have to step up to the plate and challenge someone.
I'll pick mbpm cause he likes to random ultra, that's enough I need for some beef
 
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