I don't understand how you can dislike the card system. At the very worst, you can completely ignore its existence, and it would be like nothing happened, without it affecting you in any way. It's not even like achievements were there's the argument that they may influence game design.
Valkyria Chronicles for PC [Nov 11, £14/20/$20, has all DLC, 60fps/1080p+, $14 GMG]
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Sentenza
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It seems to me you are the one ignoring the point.
We aren't talking about people purchasing a game *exclusively* to get/sell cards. We are talking about people who are most likely buying the game anyway and so can see cards as an extra bonus, either as a "collectable" or a partial "return of investment".
Basileus777
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You're not making any sense. Who is talking about buying games just to make money off of Steam cards?
AlphaProspector
Member
I have noticed people have asked us more for cards than achievements recently.
The thing is, there is a lot of psychology put into achievements (and a lot of abuse with collect-a-thons and time sinks), cards are simply items tradeable in the market for Steam wallet money. It's a way for Valve to keep that same money within their ecosystem while in the process granting people around the world the chance to collect some extra little cash that means 3-4 games during a massive sale. Just to give a quick example.
So I'm more than happy to go back to enjoying games (with the plus of cards) and not going OCD over 100% "completion" numbers and such, the regime instated in consoles. (Still, I do choose to go for 100% on games I really like and I think is possible to.)
Of course, there is also Steam cards and then there is japanese games with huge female casts Steam cards, more specifically, anything that features Japanaese manga/anime style of the moe/cute kind. *points avatar*
Since everyone on Steam is a weeaboo in disguise trying to come out of the closet (no matter how much they keep denying it as they play all those Macho Man games with angry bald dudes with guns... then they sport a twin-tailed girl in Dark Souls I/II), those cards go for bigger prices. People just love pretty kawaii moe and since it's the forbidden Steam fruit, 'course they jump at it. I mean, it's not like the Atelier series is there (yet), right? Right? (Tecmo, pls)
edit: any news on pre-load? Jeez, SEGA, pre-load this I don't want to spend days downloading it post-release!
The Artisan
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that's pretty funny. 6 years later the Ps3 loses another exclusive, except to PC instead of 360.
RockTurtle
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people take the card system seriously? man i gotta keep up with these things
SatelliteOfLove
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Sell foils from rarish games after launch to badge builders, use $$$ to buy more games.
go go go go go
Some people have to, some anime cards are really expensive and that's the only explanation.
RockTurtle
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i assumed they were more of an easter egg or achievement type deal where "you have it to show off a milestone ingame".
now i'm learning there's a freaking economy based on these things.
honestly, the fact they are intangible and the issues i have been having with steam as a service itself makes me glad i have avoided another aspect to obsess over.
now i'm learning there's a freaking economy based on these things.
honestly, the fact they are intangible and the issues i have been having with steam as a service itself makes me glad i have avoided another aspect to obsess over.
uncredited male
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Whelp I am selling an Oblivion troll for .09 cents. That is 10% off the market rate. Get on it people. Soon I will level up and go Super Steam Saiyan.
Crimsonclaw111
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I personally look forward to crafting my Raccoon City Police Department badge in 2015.
uncredited male
Member
Damn, that was fast. And bought.
BoosterDuck
Banned
but you can display them on your profile forever
uncredited male
Member
If a Steam card is intangible doesn't that mean every Steam game you buy digitally is also intangible?
BoosterDuck
Banned
your face is intangible
MickeyKnox
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I don't understand how someone can hate it. Dump every card you get into the market for the going rate. Free money.
People thinking of skipping this over the card system!?
They don't deserve to play Valkyria Chronicles. Not a big loss.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Only really because of the value they provide in terms of money. I've crafted some badges for games I was a huge fan of, but besides that, I've been interested because of being able to sell them and make some money for Steam sales!
More OT: Bought the game, going to give it to a friend since I've played it.
SpikedGunner
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Man, I liked the anime, even if it took liberties with the story.
So, uhm, was the anime actually good?People thinking of skipping this over the card system!?
Jawmuncher
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So happy to be able to finally play this.
I could have played it on PS3 all these years like I planned to, but with this PC release I think I was meant to waste. Honestly this coming out next week has me thinking of just putting both Master Cheir Collectiona and Bayonetta 2 on hold.
I could have played it on PS3 all these years like I planned to, but with this PC release I think I was meant to waste. Honestly this coming out next week has me thinking of just putting both Master Cheir Collectiona and Bayonetta 2 on hold.
SpikedGunner
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Well, I'm not going to lie, it does take liberties with the story and characterizations
(the worst being Alicia having the Tsundere turned up considerably, there is also stuff like Varrot and Irene having less focused roles, plus a love triangle with Welkin/Alicia/Faldio)
The whole series (sans the shorts
, which includes the wedding of Welkin and Alicia
Plus I like the 1st theme of the anime, the 2nd one? eh, it's alright.
BoosterDuck
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How likely is it that Sega brings back Outrun 2006?
ColonelSkills
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Not bloody likely considering the Ferrari license situation.
Jawmuncher
Member
Wonder what the chances are of them doing anything with VC2 if this does well.
Already have given up all hope on VC3 though.
Already have given up all hope on VC3 though.
HolyBaikal
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I.. actually don't know much about the cards.
... How do the cards in Steam work?
... How do the cards in Steam work?
demosthenes
Member
Maybe Durante or others can speak on this. Can you recommend similar games like VC for PC / Vita?
There is XCOM, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Tactics Ogre.
From what I understand, VC is a little different than your average SRPG though.
demosthenes
Member
Actually just starting TO now.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Am guessing this is the dub only version?
Basileus777
Member
Dual audio
Slightly sad that people are using coupons for this already cheap game (it's only $20)!
The more profit thrown at Sega, the more likely they'll localize the other classics in their vault.
But I certainly won't begrudge anyone for being price-conscious and... MOST IMPORTANTLY not resorting to piracy.
The more profit thrown at Sega, the more likely they'll localize the other classics in their vault.
But I certainly won't begrudge anyone for being price-conscious and... MOST IMPORTANTLY not resorting to piracy.
they already made their money from GMG, GMG is the one taking the hit from the couponsSlightly sad that people are using coupons for this already cheap game (it's only $20)!
The more profit thrown at Sega, the more likely they'll localize the other classics in their vault.
But I certainly won't begrudge anyone for being price-conscious and... MOST IMPORTANTLY not resorting to piracy.
People thinking of skipping this over the card system!?
Well, I bought the PS3 version and didn't play it cause it didn't have trophies. I can sympathize with them.
uncredited male
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Tactics Ogre was the template they are all based on and still the best.
And now Yasumi Matsuno is making mobile games.
tiltnkirby
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Skipping this game because of CARDS? HA! They'll see the light soon.
Remake of 2 and 3 down the road for PC, Sega, I'll be waiting. And for the 2 remake, just replace everyone with bread and we'll be good.
This play would be so much better with the bread as the MC.
A bit off-topic about cards: I think they need to stop having the summer/winter event where crafting badges during it gives you special stuff while all the ones you did before have no meaning. All it does is make me wait for the big sales to make them all instead of whenever I collect enough to make them.
Elfforkusu
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It was really bad.
It was bad enough that I shouldn't admit I watched it. But I did, so that others might live.