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CloudStrife_ca
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Little bit behind the rest of the thread I think but I made it to chapter 6 last night after playing a bit of Assassin's Creed Odyssey & Super Mario Party over the weekend. Its getting to be that time again where there are lots of good games and unfortunately not all the time to play them, I'll get there tho.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Tell me about it! I'm playing VC4, DQXI and Fist of the North Star and all them are long games. These three games should keep me busy till January when KHIII and RE2Remake comes out.
cireza
Member
Very surprised, I did not seem to me that you could do this, and the battle will give you an A rank even if you take 4 or 5 turns if I remember correctly.
I enjoyed the cast and story of VC4, but the first game left a stronger impression. Particularly the main enemies, in VC1 they were really great, in VC4 I did not like them at all.
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You definitely aren't supposed to do it this way.
put Riley at marker and take the west camp. Clear out the soldiers near it and call for a grenadine equipped with armor killing. Next turn area blast up and weak point orders. If you aim correct which isn't easy you can take all 4 out in 2 shots. I had trouble and did it in 4.
petran79
Banned
Spoilers ahead:
First game explored also the Darcsen discrimination and lore,as well as the continents history and the Valkyries. VC4 assumed players were familiar with all of this, but on the other hand did not go into any further details,expanding upon the universe and adding more. I assumed at least I'd see the Emperor and the repercussions of the death of Maximilian. VC1 explored Gallia's governing officials at least. While the Federation staff are informed about the early events in Gallia, later they do not mention it at all,not even the death of the Prince.
VC4 is better in gameplay, but I'd sacrifice few stages for a bit more backstory.
First game explored also the Darcsen discrimination and lore,as well as the continents history and the Valkyries. VC4 assumed players were familiar with all of this, but on the other hand did not go into any further details,expanding upon the universe and adding more. I assumed at least I'd see the Emperor and the repercussions of the death of Maximilian. VC1 explored Gallia's governing officials at least. While the Federation staff are informed about the early events in Gallia, later they do not mention it at all,not even the death of the Prince.
VC4 is better in gameplay, but I'd sacrifice few stages for a bit more backstory.
Secret_Lover
Member
I like Raz since he reminds me of my army days being around a bunch of morons shooting the breeze and talking about asses. The people getting offended over that grab-ass scene must not be big fans of soldiers considering its a relatively accurate representation of military humor.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Don't you keep the swimsuits to use in the campaign? >.>
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SLoWMoTIoN
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zenspider
Member
Does Rosetta trigger the male or female potentials i.e. 'Husband At Home'?
EIther way, I think it's a 1,000 word Polygon/Eurogamer/kotaku article that ain't gonna click itself $_$
Kazza
Member
With the talk of sales, how much does this game actually have to sell in order to be considered a success by Sega? While the sales figures on Steam haven't been nearly as impressive as for the first one, it needs to be kept in mind that this has been released as a full priced (£49.99 in my region) game, rather than as a budget one like last time. Taking that into account, the PC sales seem to be ok, plus it will have long legs on steam, especially once the price drops to around £20 after a couple of years. Apparently, the (much cheaper) original version on the Switch has been outselling this latest instalment despite being released at the same time, so price definitely seems to be a factor here.
This does seem to be a relatively low budget AA game which is using an enhanced version of the original game engine, so hopefully this will be like the situation with Yakuza, where they save money by asset recycling etc. Yakuza has only needed sales in the hundreds of thousands in order to be a viable franchise, so the same should be the case here.
This does seem to be a relatively low budget AA game which is using an enhanced version of the original game engine, so hopefully this will be like the situation with Yakuza, where they save money by asset recycling etc. Yakuza has only needed sales in the hundreds of thousands in order to be a viable franchise, so the same should be the case here.
michaelius
Banned
Kinda stupid that they are releasing DLC so slowly - it's ready anyway as game came out months ago in Japan so why wait till people move on ?
How do you know Steam sales? I thought once Valve plugged the exploit that SteamSpy was using, you can only get true sales figures from Valve directly.
Kazza
Member
I don't unfortunately. I'm just using the figures from steamspy which are, as you implied, not so accurate anymore. Still, I think you can still use the "Peak concurrent players yesterday" (1,098), the number of reviews (534) and estimated sales figures (20k - 50k) as a kind of heuristic to estimate how well it's doing.
Komatsu
Member
Did some research, apparently the Switch answers for a good chunk of the overall sales figures (39%), at least in the UK. Couldn't find numbers for America, though the game was sold out in all of the places I checked in the DC area.
In Japan, it is unfortunately the worst-performing VC game.
Valkyria Chronicles - 77,000
Valkyria Chronicles 2 - 94,000
Valkyria Chronicles 3 - 102,779
Valkyria Chronicles 4 - 63,000 (PS4 figures)
Let's hope for the sales to pick up as this series is indeed a jewel. Best thing to come out of SEGA CS3 in ages.
In Japan, it is unfortunately the worst-performing VC game.
Valkyria Chronicles - 77,000
Valkyria Chronicles 2 - 94,000
Valkyria Chronicles 3 - 102,779
Valkyria Chronicles 4 - 63,000 (PS4 figures)
Let's hope for the sales to pick up as this series is indeed a jewel. Best thing to come out of SEGA CS3 in ages.
Hudo
Member
I've played VC4 on my Switch, too. And it's awesome. I've played the first VC on PC and the port is actually quite good. I hope VC4 sold well enough (globally) to warrant further investment in the franchise.
michaelius
Banned
Well at least when VC1 was cutting edge game for ps3 era, VC4 is more of AA release today so budget should have been much more manageable.
Madflavor
Member
So I finished playing the game.....at Chapter 15.
Ugh, I've been wishing for a proper VC console sequel for 10 years, because I loved VC1 so much, it's one of my favorite Jrpgs. But storywise, this entry just doesn't measure up imo. I liked the improvements to the gameplay a lot, but I didn't find the cast interesting at all, and the story was so boring. I was excited when I initially heard we were playing as The Federation, because during VC1, I was always interested to know what was going on in the larger theaters of the war. With this, I expected massive battles, and taking on the top brass of the Empire's officers. Possible even get to finally see who's running the whole show. I mean if there's a Prince, there's gotta be an Emperor right?
And at first, that seemed to be what VC4 was going for. My favorite battles came from the first few hours of the game, especially the Siege of Siegval, when you're in a large battlefield and machinegun fire is constantly raining on you. But once Winter hits in the game is where the quality of the storytelling goes downhill imo.
Ugh, I've been wishing for a proper VC console sequel for 10 years, because I loved VC1 so much, it's one of my favorite Jrpgs. But storywise, this entry just doesn't measure up imo. I liked the improvements to the gameplay a lot, but I didn't find the cast interesting at all, and the story was so boring. I was excited when I initially heard we were playing as The Federation, because during VC1, I was always interested to know what was going on in the larger theaters of the war. With this, I expected massive battles, and taking on the top brass of the Empire's officers. Possible even get to finally see who's running the whole show. I mean if there's a Prince, there's gotta be an Emperor right?
And at first, that seemed to be what VC4 was going for. My favorite battles came from the first few hours of the game, especially the Siege of Siegval, when you're in a large battlefield and machinegun fire is constantly raining on you. But once Winter hits in the game is where the quality of the storytelling goes downhill imo.
CloudStrife_ca
Member
Yea you'll be ok without playing the other games.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Finish playing the game you deserter! You just have a few chapters left and they are some of the biggest levels in the franchise.
cireza
Member
VC1 wasn't anything special in terms of story either. If you want a good story, VC is probably not the place to go. It is nothing special, it simply serves as a excuse to go to war.
In terms of gameplay however, VC4 is a pretty significant upgrade and the last battles are very challenging and entertaining.
Madflavor
Member
Sorry man I disagree. VC1's story struck a cord with me.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I personally enjoying VC4 story as much as VC1, I especially liking VC4 casts a lot.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Same here. The cast in VC4 elevates the story. The plot has always been 80s-anime-tier handwaving and forced plot-progression since VC1 but it was VC1's cast that caught me. VC4's main cast is better, in my opinion, and since VC4's overall cast grows during the side-stories I'd argue that the secondary characters are better too.
However, it's possible that I'm just not remembering all the side-story content from VC1 and VC2.
cireza
Member
No problem, I understand. This is a matter of personal preferences after all.
michaelius
Banned
VC1 story was pretty good and great cast made it really enjoyable for me.
It's completely different front than the one in previous games.
But VC1 was remastered and can be played on PS4, Switch, PS3 or PC and it usually dirt cheap so I'd suggest playing it first
It's completely different front than the one in previous games.
But VC1 was remastered and can be played on PS4, Switch, PS3 or PC and it usually dirt cheap so I'd suggest playing it first
Malakhov
Banned
I tried this game yesterday and put in 8 hours so far, it's the first title in the series that I play, I absolutely love the battle system. I just finished chapter 4 where the difficulty was cranked up and the fight lasted an hour, am I horrible at this or the fights are that long from now on?
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
A new convert!
No, it's not you. The fights do sometimes drag on. Improving your own strategy and leveling up stuff can help the battle go faster, but some battles are just long.
Malakhov
Banned
Ah ok, I thought it was me. I was having B grades but I got a D for the chapter 4 fight. I wasnt expecting that difficulty jump all of a sudden.
At one point in the fight, Riley missed a gatling gun tower 3 times in a row even if I was dead spot on, is it just bad luck or I might be doing something wrong?
And will we get access to medics at one point in the game?
And yeah I'm a convert, this is the first game in years that Ive played that much and cant wait to play more of it, as soon as I finish this one I'm getting the remasterd on ps4.
michaelius
Banned
Good thing about repeating missions for better rank is you get cash and experience for it so it saves from grinding
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Several of your unit types can use Ragnaid. I'm not far enough into the game to comment on whether or not you get a dedicated medic. I imagine a Scout + medic abilities would be useful.
I think the Red Circle is the possible area where a shot lands. You can be lined up and the "preview" at the top might say "1 Hit Kill" but it still misses. You want your target to be in the Red, so sometimes it pays to aim for a chest shot and hope for a headshot.
Malakhov
Banned
Good thing about repeating missions for better rank is you get cash and experience for it so it saves from grinding
Yeah I'll replay them eventually for the EXP!
Yeah but that was ridiculous, the whole tower was circled and it missed 3 times in a row. Yeah I know about the ragnaids but I thought I had read that there was a medic class.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Maybe you can specialize the
Engineer class?
I honestly don't know. Others will have to chime in, but as far as I know you don't get it as a "class", you just have the option to specialize certain classes to be better at healing, if you wish.
Malakhov
Banned
Yeah I just looked on sega's website and it's not in the available classes. Must have misread something.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Malakhov
Banned
Damn thats insane lol
Another question, grenadiers cant destroy those gatling gun stations with hard concrete tops right? Just the ones with the camo tarp over it?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
They can but it takes forever. Don't expect many of the weak bunkers, that was mostly mission specific to chapter 4.
For concrete bunkers your 3 options are
- look for a Ranga crate nearby to destroy with sniper, scout, or grenadier. Sometimes they are hidden at angles you don't look. Takes 1 turn.
- destroy with your tank. Takes 2-3 turns.
- destroy with lancers. Takes 3-4 turns (but worth doing as a last resort if one is giving you trouble)
Malakhov
Banned
Yeah I noticed with the ranga crates but sometimes they're pretty well hidden behind
I just finished chapter 4 today, I can manage b grades in the skirmishes but during the story battles I get horrible D grades, I really suck at this. I dont like the fact that grades are given in how many turns you finish the fight. I often finish them without losing anyone and yet I get a D.
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DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Strategically overextending yourself allows you to beat the missions much faster. But it's tougher.Yeah I noticed with the ranga crates but sometimes they're pretty well hidden behind
I just finished chapter 4 today, I can manage b grades in the skirmishes but during the story battles I get horrible D grades, I really suck at this. I dont like the fact that grades are given in how many turns you finish the fight. I often finish them without losing anyone and yet I get a D.
Malakhov
Banned
I play it too safe, I usually clear the map using my snipers and grenadiers only from a distance and using scouts to spot them and then turn around
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Yeah I noticed with the ranga crates but sometimes they're pretty well hidden behind
I just finished chapter 4 today, I can manage b grades in the skirmishes but during the story battles I get horrible D grades, I really suck at this. I dont like the fact that grades are given in how many turns you finish the fight. I often finish them without losing anyone and yet I get a D.
The grades are meaningless so you are right to dislike them. A rank is just finishing the mission asap. Any dimwit can do that with scouts + orders lol
If you win and don't lose anyone, you are doing good and playing smart
When you actually start losing people is when you know shit is getting real. You have to adapt to situations cuz sometimes events happen mid-mission such as mini bosses appearing or the environment changes. You are supposed to be nervous like the characters.