CertifiedFP
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Someone's never heard of Fire Emblem, P.sure that was the first SRPG.
Valkyria Chronicles for PC [Nov 11, £14/20/$20, has all DLC, 60fps/1080p+, $14 GMG]
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Someone's never heard of Fire Emblem, P.sure that was the first SRPG.
X-COM was released a year before Tactics Ogre, and Fire Emblem before that.
Laser Squad was before all of them, though. X-COM is reportedly its spiritual sequel but I've never played it so I don't know if it had the RPG thing going on.
Edit: Now I want to know what's typically considered the first SRPG!
Laser Squad as far as I recall doesn't have any RPG elements, it's a pure tactics game.
The first SRPG type game I can recall was SSI's Wizard's Crown in 1985.
On consoles? Perhaps FE1 on the NES.
Jawmuncher
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Gameplay wise I would think Xcom EU would be the closest to VC.
Or better yet, Blue Byte's Incubation.
If you want to go that far, then the Battle Isle series as well.
I watched it years ago. Thought it was surprisingly fleshed out for an anime video game adaptation. That is the keyword, cause there are liberties taken with the source material. Your mileage may vary on many of those changes...but it fairs much better than a lot of video game adaptions in general, and actually tells its story on its own without needing to go back to the source material.
I'd give it a solid 7 out of 10 and a recommendation for watching atleast once.
There's X-Com: Enemy Unknown. It doesn't have any interesting story or characters, but it's similar from a gameplay standpoint. I don't think the tactical gameplay is as good though. I'd probably more recommend the older X-Com games, but they might be hard to get into because they look dated and they kinda have terrible UI by modern standards.
Jagged Alliance 2 is the king as far as I'm concerned in this genre. It's from 1999, so it looks dated. But if you're okay with that, I'd highly recommend it. Like Valkyria Chronicles, every unit is unique with their own personality and dialogue. It doesn't have a set linear mission structure as VC and the storyline isn't as indepth, but on the flip side it offers you more freedom and it's more of an RPG than VC.
Someone already mentioned Tactics Ogre, and that's definitely a good game. I remember it being a tad grindy though (or maybe I was just bad at it).
I can't think of any game which mixes turn based tactical strategy with 3rd person character control, so I think VC stands alone in that regard.
Robert J. Sullivan
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Slightly sad that people are using coupons for this already cheap game (it's only $20)!
The more profit thrown at Sega, the more likely they'll localize the other classics in their vault.
But I certainly won't begrudge anyone for being price-conscious and... MOST IMPORTANTLY not resorting to piracy.
Money is tight for a lot of people right now. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for trying to be frugal with their expenses, especially frugal with luxury expenses. Also, the additional discount gets eaten by GMG, not Sega.
Freedom = $1.05
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awesome, so this game is even cheaper if you consider the money you're getting back from selling them anime cards.
Aye, one card could valued at one Freedom.
Slightly sad that people are using coupons for this already cheap game (it's only $20)!
The more profit thrown at Sega, the more likely they'll localize the other classics in their vault.
But I certainly won't begrudge anyone for being price-conscious and... MOST IMPORTANTLY not resorting to piracy.
This isn't localizing a classic. They've already localized it. I'm re-buying the game they already sold me on PS3.
Let's just say I'm really skeptical that the sales of VC will cause Sega to actually localize titles they weren't planning on localizing already. At best we'll get Steam releases of other already-localized console titles like Bayonetta. Which would be great in itself, but isn't the same thing as what you're saying.
What if it sells 20 million copies like I scientifically extrapolated? What then?
Sadly, I agree with you. It's very unlikely they'd localize games they passed over already.
Dragoon En Regalia
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I can foresee SEGA going straight to a PC localization of VC3 rather than VC2, mainly because there'd be no story disconnect (VC1 and 3 occurring around roughly the same period) and because fan reaction to 3 is much warmer, enough maybe to justify the port effort and groaning about PSP-level assets and smaller maps.
They already have a localized script for VC2, which they do not have for VC3. That is the difference. A PC port is closer to "free money" while new localizations would require a larger investment of time and money.
I am watching it presently (I'm at episode 10 right now) and I don't think it's a straight up bad adaptation. It captures very well the essence and feel of the game while also presenting and dwelving deeper on other sides of the characters and villains. I was scared that the adaptation would be filled with too much fan service or filler but thankfully those are practically non-existent. The only disappointing things right now I would say is the smaller screen time of some characters that could potentially remove the impact of some key scenes later on, and also the fact there is no dub from the same voice actors as the game...
Of course my opinion may change when I finish it but I don't think you should dismiss it right off the bat.
GhostTrick
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It all depends of word of mouth and sales.
If it ever sold like 500k on PC alone... I think they wouldnt blind or deaf.
Unfortunately... it wont happens.
Bad word of mouth is already here from some websites.
What? I need new entries for my blacklist.
Remake of 2 and 3 down the road for PC, Sega, I'll be waiting. And for the 2 remake, just replace everyone with bread and we'll be good.
This game would be so much better with the bread as the MC.
pictured: the people at the forefront of a civil war that might spark off a world war
seriously, the vc2 cast/plot is so unbelievably grating. like i am still on the fence about this game from how unbelievably bad the story/characters were, despite the thread's assurances.
please tell me that the characters in vc1 act like they're fighting in a war instead of whatever vc2 was. anime high school war? i have no idea how to define it.
Sentenza
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corrosivefrost
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Ok, SEGA. I bought your game.
Now give me Bayonetta and Vanquish PC.
Now give me Bayonetta and Vanquish PC.
Crimsonclaw111
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What's the bad word of mouth exactly?
I think he/she is referring to Patrick Klepek's dismissive coverage of it.
KimonoNoNo
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I'm expecting Vanquish and maybe Bayonetta, but the title I'm really hoping for is Panzer Dragoon Orta.
Surly it can't be too difficult to port an old OG Xbox exclusive (which is basically already a PC in console form), as long as Sega still got all the assets and source code that is.
Surly it can't be too difficult to port an old OG Xbox exclusive (which is basically already a PC in console form), as long as Sega still got all the assets and source code that is.
GhostTrick
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Well, maybe bad is exagerating, but I expected some websites to treat this as a bigger news, not as a second class one. Or even some people claiming "no one asked for this" like Giantbomb.
Crimsonclaw111
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Oh. That guy.
I'm going to buy my copy today I think, Steam sale is over at 10 am pst right? Time to give VC the push.
VC1 is the best of the bunch by far.
As for the dismissive coverage, i just think its the western media's dismissive nature of japanese anime looking games. They aren't going to like it or care about it whether or not its the greatest thing ever. It just reeks of ignorance IMO
GhostTrick
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Yeah, exactly.
It's kinda baffling how that release is treated.
But as I said, the even more shocking thing is to dismiss efforts from a community.
Yes. VC2 was terribly terribly written with little regard to the previous game IMHO. The only thing it did right was the gameplay.
VC1 has none of that bullshit that VC2 had which was basically somebody who watched shonen for a day and decided to write a script based on every annoying trope they could fit in at once.
Well, fuck Patrick Klepek. It seems to be doing fine on Green Man Gaming and Steam.
Haunted
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I must be missing a followup article by Klepek where he dismisses Valkyria Chronicles coming to PC, because the only thing I can find on GB about it is this:
Talk about an overreaction. :lol
This little blurb is what everyone gets up in arms about in here? The one where he calls it a strategy cult classic, expresses hope that it's coming soon and states that this news has made it a good day for PC games?
Talk about an overreaction. :lol
Any member of the games media who has not written at least one article a day since the announcement about how much he (or she!) is looking forward to the VC1 PC release is inherently suspect.
You are either with us or against us.
Haunted
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Writing freelance articles for PC Gamer makes you a member of the games media, so I'm looking forward to seeing your daily output on the topic on their frontpage.
The joke here is that I know you totally would do that if you could.
Joking aside, I feel like it's a small title with niche appeal, and while the ever-growing Japanese library on Steam deserves recognition, this is probably not the game to trigger a huge avalanche of coverage.
On a personal note, the best part about this is that all the DLC (I didn't even know existed) is included. Revisiting Gallia will be nice, but getting to see new content will be even better.
You would have a blast looking at my Skype/email history in the hours following the announcementWriting freelance articles for PC Gamer makes you a member of the games media, so I'm looking forward to seeing your daily output on the topic on their frontpage.
ShadowSoldier89
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I feel like you and me are on a similar page.
Every day I look at this thread and think, holy shit this is real!
CertifiedFP
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Can't believe the petition actually worked out at all, to be honest even as one of the guys watching it heavily I was pretty cynical seeing what looked to be a rather pathetic amount of signatures.
Will probably be streaming this on launch day. Hope the port is as good as they say, because I'd seriously hate to broadcast something embarrassing.
Oh and, who's doing the OT for this release?
Will probably be streaming this on launch day. Hope the port is as good as they say, because I'd seriously hate to broadcast something embarrassing.
Oh and, who's doing the OT for this release?
KimonoNoNo
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I think it's only right that Durante should have first refusal.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I don't know if anyone is yet. I would be willing to put it together though.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I will gladly do it if nobody else has a higher claim to it.
Also, this re-release has me eying this again. I'm a sucker for a good artbook, and I know I'll want it once I start the game again.
According to this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136613947&postcount=2605 Durante is planning to do it.
SpikedGunner
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Worth it.
I reserved it shortly after the announcement