This episode is one of the reasons I maintain 12 year old Aang would wreck Korra. She's nowhere near creative enough to catch him off guard. All she does is attack, attack, attack - and she does it in the most straightforward and telegraphed ways possible. Any opponent of Kuvira's calibre will have little difficulty using her strength against her.
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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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JadedWriter
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Kuvira moves more like an airbender than Korra does. New preview clip sneaked into my Facebook feed.
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Icyflamez96
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Aang would wreck Korra
Pegosaurus
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korra is a better bender than aang
JadedWriter
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Aang was a bending prodigy. He'd just counter and redirect Korra's attacks.
This is just all kinds of hilarious. Told you guys Kuvira was a Sith Lord.
Pegosaurus
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I'm with you on this. Here and on tumblr and elsewhere I've seen people be way too harsh on Korra since the first season. I find it pretty believable that she'd lose against Kuvira and I like that even though she got all of the metal out of her, she isn't just magically better. I love it when characters actually have to work through their problems believably. Yet other people think that means the character sucks.
Yet I know that if Korra had magically gotten over all of her problems, people would be complaining that she plot went too easy on her and it's not believable. I've said it before in this thread, but being a main character in fiction is hard. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Icyflamez96
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You can't handled ALL THIS MEELO
A Human Becoming
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I agree with both posts. I'm not sure where the writers are going with this. While Korra suffers from PTSD, which does have a long healing process, their depiction seems out of sorts with the main storyline. It's like the writers are holding her back more than they should. The Toph storyline feels like a red herring: she can fight, but still shitty.
JadedWriter
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Meelo is one sadistic aggressive airbender. I can imagine him using razor wind or some shit to blow people's skin off.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Posted? New clip from the next episode, titled
"Reunion".
That Dude John
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So, yeah...I still don't get exactly what they plan on doing, if they even have a plan at all.
Icyflamez96
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is this not what makes stories exciting sometimes
"....no"
Just imagine if she faced against an actual airbender. Aang would win purely because his approach to combat is fundamentally different. Korra would be defeated by her own strength.
Honestly, I don't know who'd be worse, Azula or Aang. Probably Azula because she wouldn't permit Korra anywhere near the same allowances as others have or would have. She'd compromise her psychologically first and then physically break her.
No...
Reddit has been really delivering today
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Man finally.
I miss Tenzin.
"No."
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That Dude John
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I suppose.
It's just...I'm not sure how to put it. As a viewer, it's cool not to know where exactly things are going to be taken, but I get the same feeling from the characters themselves, and I personally feel that it isn't coming from the uncertainty of their situation(which I wouldn't be bothered by) but seemingly their growing Hola!
Fidelis Hodie
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Completely disagree. Seems to me like the show has a plan and is actually sticking too it. I loved the fake out. I thought it was way too easy for Korra with Toph and now we know it's not even close to over. It'll make the pay off that much sweeter.
Korra has learned not to be completely aggro, when has that ever worked for her? She's growing and actually trying to do something different here, clearly not ready to face Kuvira. Then she got her ass kicked. Again, it'll make the pay off that much sweeter.
I'm ready to see where it goes and enjoy the ride. Peeps stop varrick'ing the train.
Or don't since that was the best part of the episode, haha.
Yeah honestly probably would have been nicer if she was able to at least get some hits early on.
jediyoshi
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I'm not convinced people in that second scenario actually exists.
Hey now Korra and Asami beat the shit out of those poor Mad Max Earth Kingdom bikers back in Book 3.
Why does Korra like fire so much? She has a huge arsenal of primary AND secondary elemental powers at her disposal but she desides to settle on fire for most of her fight? She could have metal bended the metal on Kuvira's body. If that didn't work, she could have blood bended Kuvira into a betta position. Hell, lightning would have been good too if she had gotten a hit in. I feel like Korra doesn't think before she acts.
NipplesAndToes23
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I already knew Korra was going to lose but that ass whooping was a lot worse than I expected and I don't understand what was the point of the swamp shit if she's still hallucinating. This episode finally made me enjoy Varrick however who I usually just ignored. Also mothafuckin earth ninjas!
Why do you think Korra knows how to blood bend or lightning bend when we have never seen her do either?
NipplesAndToes23
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Water Benders can use water from the air. Even though you can't see it doesn't mean it's not around. I actually haven't seen it used since The Last Airbender with Katara.
LAUGHTREY
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I'm guessing it was to show her she isn't all the way there yet.
But if that's the case, why not just extend her recovery time instead of wasting time like this? She's obviously going to do something again to try to get rid of her fear, so why even bother having her face Kuvira now?
Kinda beating a dead horse with this character arc aren't we? She lost to Amon like this in season 1. It's like they just re-write the same season over and over again.
Katara was so good she could use sweat and bend it.
She also learned some cool moves like that octopus water bending style.
I can't say I was annoyed or disappointed at Korra's defeat; indeed I was expecting it to happen even before the episode. For me, what would have been absurd would have been for Su to lose in a fight to Kuvira, whereas with Korra they had already laid the groundwork for her weakness, so it made sense.
What made it terrible was not the result but the nature of the fight itself. It reminded me of the absolute worst of season 1, which had garbage fights throughout the season. There was zero 'logic' either here or in season 1 to deciding the winner, by which I mean there was never some piece of bending skill or intelligence which made the difference. Instead, the fights all proceeded in the same way. Korra and the rest would fling a variety of attacks, and whether they were projectiles, sweeps, from above or below, the bad guys simply have 100% evasion turned on and nothing connects. Then at some point it's decided that the good guys should win or get a hit in and the opponent loses their 100% evasion ability. In this episode, it would constantly appear that Korra is firing larger sweep attacks or area blasts, only for them to change into simple projectiles as Kuvira dodges - without any effort, I might add. At one point Kuvira dodged a massive fire burst simply by tilting her upper body about 30degrees. Based on the rest of the fight there was no reason for the Avatar State attacks to hit Kuvira, since she dodged plenty of similar attacks no problem. It just makes everything really boring, as it completely removes any tension by being so transparent, not to mention it is just dull to actually see.
The way the fight should have gone should have been akin to Tenzin - Zaher from last season, with Kuvira holding her own but slowly losing to the superior bender. Then when Korra comes to finish the fight, her mental blocks kick in and Kuvira seizes the opportunity.
What made it terrible was not the result but the nature of the fight itself. It reminded me of the absolute worst of season 1, which had garbage fights throughout the season. There was zero 'logic' either here or in season 1 to deciding the winner, by which I mean there was never some piece of bending skill or intelligence which made the difference. Instead, the fights all proceeded in the same way. Korra and the rest would fling a variety of attacks, and whether they were projectiles, sweeps, from above or below, the bad guys simply have 100% evasion turned on and nothing connects. Then at some point it's decided that the good guys should win or get a hit in and the opponent loses their 100% evasion ability. In this episode, it would constantly appear that Korra is firing larger sweep attacks or area blasts, only for them to change into simple projectiles as Kuvira dodges - without any effort, I might add. At one point Kuvira dodged a massive fire burst simply by tilting her upper body about 30degrees. Based on the rest of the fight there was no reason for the Avatar State attacks to hit Kuvira, since she dodged plenty of similar attacks no problem. It just makes everything really boring, as it completely removes any tension by being so transparent, not to mention it is just dull to actually see.
The way the fight should have gone should have been akin to Tenzin - Zaher from last season, with Kuvira holding her own but slowly losing to the superior bender. Then when Korra comes to finish the fight, her mental blocks kick in and Kuvira seizes the opportunity.
I would've liked to see Korra actually beating Kuvira. And then getting pummeled by her loyal troops, finally realizing that the true threat of Kuvira isn't her physical strength, but her leadership, ideas and actual accomplishments. So far we're missing interaction between Kuvira and her people. We are only told that the people are inspired by her. That would've been a great moment. But as usual we only limiting the greater idea of a single person. Maybe two, if we count Bataar.
She's at least getting a tad better since Book 2 when it comes to variety in her use of Bending in fights.
I can see the avatar becoming less needed especially as the Air Nation starts to have a bigger role as peacekeepers but I don't think she'll be the last avatar.
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in a recent Q&A Bryke hinted that there will be avatars up to 10,000 years in the future.
Yeah, i'm a huge fan of Miyazaki. 108 is just from LOST. I just use that number any time I need it. It's kind of lame. None of my names ever work without a # since they are always taken. I'm kind of kicking myself for not going with Azulaaaa or some form of Azula on PSN. Just because it's kind of confusing when I want to play with fellow GAF people. BTW can't wait to play with Ya Jaded.
Also freakin Sony for not allowing name changes still smh. I would just create a new PSN account, but I have all my shit tied to with (digitally) and with my PS +. So yeah, no. So sadly I have a split account name. It's kind of confusing.
Ha Freaking Sony and their reluctance to let us change our names. I just want the option to at least change my PSN name. Suppose it could be worse I could have added a few XXX's or something to my name.
RockTurtle
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everyone has been playing into kuvira's hands.
her strength isn't her physical prowess.
it's the fact she is doing everything by the book and keeping things morally gray.
she puts people in a position where they have to make a tough choice.
she lays down the rules and agreements, and people willingly break them out of desperation giving her "justification".
her strength isn't her physical prowess.
it's the fact she is doing everything by the book and keeping things morally gray.
she puts people in a position where they have to make a tough choice.
she lays down the rules and agreements, and people willingly break them out of desperation giving her "justification".
Atraveller
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Bad writing.
So what was her master plan in that fight?
It's probably the one thing that stuck out to me the most, she straight up challenges the Avatar. Sure you could say that maybe Korra will be rusty or what not but so what. Everyone knows once Korra goes into the avatar state she's the greatest weapon there is. Even with her half ass show she still moped up Kuvira once she went into it and the only thing that saved Kuvira was that Korra had one of her mental freak outs. That was it. No trick. No knowledgeable tactic. No master secret. Pure dumb luck saved her.
I was baffled that Kuvira didn't try to put any limit on the fight, like no avatar state or only earth bending or whatever. She had nothing except herself which wouldn't be a bad thing against most going up against an Avatar? Even a recovering one? That's just dumb. There wasn't any real mental games playing Korra. Maybe you can say Kuvira was cocky or her ego got too big with all her wins she started to believe her own hype but she tends to be smart on her judgement calls so this seems entirely baffling. Even Azula had to be pushed and mentally off her rocker to start make errors.
It's probably the one thing that stuck out to me the most, she straight up challenges the Avatar. Sure you could say that maybe Korra will be rusty or what not but so what. Everyone knows once Korra goes into the avatar state she's the greatest weapon there is. Even with her half ass show she still moped up Kuvira once she went into it and the only thing that saved Kuvira was that Korra had one of her mental freak outs. That was it. No trick. No knowledgeable tactic. No master secret. Pure dumb luck saved her.
I was baffled that Kuvira didn't try to put any limit on the fight, like no avatar state or only earth bending or whatever. She had nothing except herself which wouldn't be a bad thing against most going up against an Avatar? Even a recovering one? That's just dumb. There wasn't any real mental games playing Korra. Maybe you can say Kuvira was cocky or her ego got too big with all her wins she started to believe her own hype but she tends to be smart on her judgement calls so this seems entirely baffling. Even Azula had to be pushed and mentally off her rocker to start make errors.
Because she's a jack of all trades, master of none.They made it a point in the first episode to prove that Korra lacks the discipline necessary for strategic combat and prefers to overpower her opponents through sheer ferocity, and that her fighting is a balance of the elements instead of showing favoritism towards the birth element. Aang was a pacifist and had to out think his opponent most of the time. Right now, Korra is basically season 1 Zuko and Kuvira is season 3 Azula. Her avatar state is probably weaker than Aang's because she has more control over it. Even by the end of the first series, Aang wasn't fully in control.
She's not as good at it as Kuvira.
Yeah, I'd say that she is pre-poison technically stronger than Aang was in ATLA (older, trained in a sport and very willing to hurt her opponent), but a worse fighter due the lack of tactical skills, any kind of specializing and relying on having brute force and all elements (as in: she can always fight since she has the resource for every terrain). Not that she is even physical very weak, she isn't worth much in a fight. But sadly this is the only thing she is good for. Everyone just calls her to wreck shit.
Being good at bending doesn't give you divine immunity to it. We didn't even see Kora trying to do bend Kuviras metal. She just didn't thought of it, because she was busy punching.
How would she know? She did bend metal out of her body that even Su couldn't, who is on a similar level like Lin, the next best metal bender Korra knows. She did know nothing about Kuvira's fighting style and strength but that she was pupil of Su's and is apparently strong. It's not she held back her bending of a specific element her other enemies were specialized in.
Sokka would be proud. Hope we get to see some more Meelo art in the remaining episodes.
Also you all need to go watch Over The Garden Wall.
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Nah I think that's more Bolin. Also I blame Su for all of this.
Also you all need to go watch Over The Garden Wall.
shira
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They should have had a kid do it.
Just another reason the Meelo character sucks post Book 1
Atraveller
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Just finished the new episode, Korra sucks, so did Kuvira, but in a different way.
Phoenician_Viking
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Watch Zhu li playing a decisive role to defeating Kuvira. I am not buying that she is loyal to Kuvira for one second.
I think we all know that. Subtlety isn't the strength of the series.
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