JayhawkerStL
Banned
Yes, the massive failure of AC: Unity should make publishers quake in fear from the wrath of GAF.
Batman: Arkham Knight Aiming for identical Res/Framerate Across Xbox One and PS4
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Yes, the massive failure of AC: Unity should make publishers quake in fear from the wrath of GAF.
huh? with parity only owners of the shittiest specs win. everyone else loses.
Summer Haze
Banned
But they shouldn't be aiming for parity; they should be aiming to get the most out of each console. What's the point of the two consoles being different if their differences aren't going to be fully utilised? Are going to have to solely rely on exclusive developers to show us what our consoles can do?
Fuck that.
Stone Ocean
Member
Tell that to last gen. The 360 shit on the PS3 but all the PS3 would get was shit ports with awful performance, if at all.
BrainZEROX
Member
We are not melting down, we'll wait the ADS news for that :3
People are just saying that parity is not acceptable. Somehow Rocksteady will read this thread so let's just make it clear. If they choose to ignore it, well... We'll make our own choices too. There are a lot of great games coming in 2015 if you see what I mean.
I am guessing that he used that term loosely.. it's Rocksteady.. I'm guessing he just means "this game is going to be baddass on every system... we're not sweating resolution and frame rate at this second."
What do you want them to say? "Hey, our game is a lot better on PS4 than it is on Xbox, but you Xbox owners should probably still buy it lol.
Nah, that shit ain't gonna happen. People expect a good experience regardless of platform, and the fact of the matter is that people usually don't give shit about framerate and resolution, within reasonable boundries.
Nah, that shit ain't gonna happen. People expect a good experience regardless of platform, and the fact of the matter is that people usually don't give shit about framerate and resolution, within reasonable boundries.
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They don't even need to expand to that based on the question.
All they need to say is they will be taking advantage of each platform's strengths.
McHuj
Member
What parity are they aiming at? What did he exactly say?
Only resolution and frame rate.
There's a ton of other things like AA, lighting, shadows, textures, etc that define graphics that can be different on the platforms to utilize the power difference. Hardware power isn't only evident through resolution and fps.
No it hasn't, see Dragon Ball Z: Budokai on PS2 and Gamecube or Splinter Cell on Xbox and PS2. And I'm sure there are many other examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yWyekzTAe4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkHoDEh0FWc
Well I have a preorder for the PS4 version on Amazon and I'm very tempted to cancel.
Might as well wait till it hits 20 instead of paying close to 60 for a half-assed portjob. :-/
bargeparty
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IAmRandom31
Banned
they will be CPU bound somehow, both versions will look identical
Canis lupus
Member
In what planet do you live that boycotting a gimped game, an intentional one at that is stupid? It's the most rational thing one can do. It's not like I deprave myself of the game, I just choose that my money doesn't go to the publisher and reward them.
Teletraan1
Banned
So they don't want to piss off people who don't give a shit about something but choose to really piss off the people who do. Good to know.
It's a matter of first-party games setting the standard as always. PS4 needs a few more titles to push the PS4 - and keep it high.
Third party will do whatever they want. Vote with your wallet is all that you can do - besides rage a bit for some negative PR. No sane third party will ship 2 completely different games graphics wise to the market. However, third-party should take advantage of power advantages when available. Parity talk is just PR suicide as well as the wrong mindset of going about creating the best possible game on each system. Parity = opposite.
Third party will do whatever they want. Vote with your wallet is all that you can do - besides rage a bit for some negative PR. No sane third party will ship 2 completely different games graphics wise to the market. However, third-party should take advantage of power advantages when available. Parity talk is just PR suicide as well as the wrong mindset of going about creating the best possible game on each system. Parity = opposite.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
But, but, but we have to support the devs...
For real, this is one of the reasons/examples why it feels so good and right that i stopped buying games day one at full price.
This, all the cut content to nickel and dime the gamer, and the new trend to release broken and completely unfinished games on disc (TEW, ACU) just deserves to be punished.
I have no sympathy for this industry anymore.
For real, this is one of the reasons/examples why it feels so good and right that i stopped buying games day one at full price.
This, all the cut content to nickel and dime the gamer, and the new trend to release broken and completely unfinished games on disc (TEW, ACU) just deserves to be punished.
I have no sympathy for this industry anymore.
Summer Haze
Banned
Lol, I've said this exact same thing a couple of times in this thread now. You don't have to tell me.
And I never said they are aiming for parity across everything, I'm just throwing around some 'what ifs'.
Off-Kilter
Banned
Oh fuck off.
Used it is.
Used it is.
I'm not disagreeing with you guys at all. I said that the Devs seem to have this mindset. If someone told me my GTX770 Sli system is basically the same as a single 750ti so lets make a game to run for a 750ti, I would be like... wtf? I didn't pay an extra 250 so my games can look the same.
I get the outrage, I really do. But my point is the Devs either don't care, or don't have time to optimize the PS4 version. So instead, they'll just have one version. And honestly, I don't like it one bit (and I own neither system).
dark_inferno
Member
Never heard of Parity from the last gen. Now its a big thing. I still wonder why.
Messofanego
Banned
I now have a powerful enough computer, so hopefully I can run it at 60fps 
Krauser Kat
Member
good thing im playing this on my pc.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
It's stupid because they have yet to even say what they are aiming for parity in. If it's simply res and FPS then we could assume the PS4 will have better enhancements in other areas. If they manage to get the XBO version to 1080p/60fps then it'll be parity there, but the PS4 will likely run better overall.
Saying a game is "gimped" before it's even done is a bit crazy to me. Maybe I'm alone in that sentiment.
I don't see people melting down at Rockstar for GTAV parity. Where are the boycotts there?
Windom Earle
Member
Being CPU bound has nothing to do with looking identical. (I guess you are making a play on Ubisofts's bullshit comments)
Stilton Disco
Member
If they've gone for true parity where it's just an Xbox one game that happens to be on the ps4, then fuck em, I didn't buy a ps4 over of an XO for shits and giggles.
If it's just 1080p 30fps on both, but actually makes use of the ps4's extra horsepower for greater draw distances, better/more effects, than that's fine.
But the fact is Microsoft did not design the XO to be the most powerful games machine they could, and their customers aren't buying it to get the best versions of games possible. It's ridiculous that the customers who did buy a system because it was more powerful, and offered the best bang for their buck, are potentially being given a sub par product just so as to apparently not hurt the owners of the weaker consoles feelings.
It's especially ridiculous when the pc version is allowed to take as much advantage of the hardware as is available. Just makes the entire thing look like a corrupt, back room deal to favour Microsoft.
If it's just 1080p 30fps on both, but actually makes use of the ps4's extra horsepower for greater draw distances, better/more effects, than that's fine.
But the fact is Microsoft did not design the XO to be the most powerful games machine they could, and their customers aren't buying it to get the best versions of games possible. It's ridiculous that the customers who did buy a system because it was more powerful, and offered the best bang for their buck, are potentially being given a sub par product just so as to apparently not hurt the owners of the weaker consoles feelings.
It's especially ridiculous when the pc version is allowed to take as much advantage of the hardware as is available. Just makes the entire thing look like a corrupt, back room deal to favour Microsoft.
RPGCrazied
Member
I'm not seeing the problem here? So the console versions will both look great, with PC being even better(as usual).
Seems a win/win for everyone.
Seems a win/win for everyone.
Different circumstances I guess. PS3 was just a mess to develop for so I would assume most devs just made sure their game was playable and left it at that, whereas now the similarity in architecture allows them to build and optimize for XB1, throw that onto PS4, and call it a day.
It's still bullshit though
demigod
Member
Not canceling my order.
I dont have it preordered yet and with news they can fuck right off
.Zombie James
Banned
Microsoft chose the hardware they chose and the information was public months before people dropped money on these consoles. Developers shouldn't be coddling people who've made their beds.
miDnIghtEr20C
Banned
The Batman games have always been great to me and I'm guessing this will be more of the same great fun. Can't wait for it.
Its almost like you skipped last gen or something.
Glorified G
Member
Meltdown initiated
blue_phazon
Member
Guys what if by parity they mean both are going to be 1080p/60fps? Everyone wins!
retrogamer84
Member
Yep I just did myself also. I was going to go for pc instead but screw it, I don't want them to get any of my money if this is what they are going to pull. I will buy it used on the cheap.
alexandros
Banned
It's not going to stop if WB see that most of their sales are for XB1 and PC. It's going to get worse.
Teletraan1
Banned
100% agreed.
It isn't like every console has the Wii U release schedule or has that ridiculous drought we just went through. I am sure there will be plenty of games that are worthy of your money when this game releases in 2015. 2015 is stacked for games and will make a lot of peoples wallets bleed as it is. I see no problem with letting these shitbag pubs know this will not be tolerated while enjoying the releases that don't aim for this parity nonsense. The games that do can get relegated to Steam Sales or Bomba retail sales.