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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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Kuvira is whatever. I think she had potential. I guess she still does. There are things I still like about her. But I can honestly say, she's not anywhere as interesting as Amon, or Zaheer. At least not yet. And that really kind of worries me given she's supposed to be THE final conflict of the series. BUT...just me though. Some seem to really like her already. So I hope I end up coming to your side by the back half. I really want to like her, since I actually did like the idea of her early on.
 
Eren from Attack on Titan says otherwise
I think he means your average battle shounen.
Well, the idea that one person can have all the elements ruins the uniqueness of everything. Why do I need an earthbender on my team when I can earth bend myself.

A team should have a dynamic and have each member be able to do something the other members can't to give them a purpose and role. Even the most basic shonen's understand that much.

ATLA got away with it because Aang was still learning most of the elements and his friends each had one trait that Aang couldn't learn. (Katara could heal, Toph could metal bend, Zuko had swords ect)

Korra is missing this for the first two seasons reducing her friends to glorified cheerleaders
Well said.
 
The recent arc is nice. Although the last chapter's revelation about the titans was a bit irritating. But the arc overall is nice.

I actually read up to the last chapter. So I agree it's starting to get interesting. But I just can't hang in there anymore. Eren is the worst protagonist ever. And the once a month format is fuckin terrible.

I know i know..welcome to Shonen. I only recently got heavily into Anime 3 years ago. Devoured film, and then worked my way to TV shows. Still not 100% into Manga. But I got hooked on Titan. Ripped through all the manga. And now I'm just over the story (at least for now).

I'll probably wait 2 years and then catch up.
 
Oh god don't even. That fuckin story. I gave up on it tbh.

I couldn't keep watching a show where the main character cries and has a monologue of self-pity every episode. It's a shame since the premise seemed pretty cool, but I couldn't take it anymore. I had enough of the crying-hero archetype after watching Eureka Seven.
 
The recent arc is nice. Although the last chapter's revelation about the titans was a bit irritating. But the arc overall is nice.

I dunno, I find Titan to be one of the most frustrating stories I have ever read, largely because the author keeps digging himself deeper. Even with some of the most recent happenings, this genre shift that he took isn't exactly engaging me.
 
I dunno, I find Titan to be one of the most frustrating stories I have ever read, largely because the author keeps digging himself deeper. Even with some of the most recent happenings, this genre shift that he took isn't exactly engaging me.

Yeah, I got into AoT recently (only the anime) and while I loved it at the beginning, it now kind of seems too frustrating to revisit. The story is fascinating and I want to know more about the Titans, but Eren is even more annoying than Korra from Book 1 and 2.

No wonder most people cosplay as Mikasa.
 
Call me when Korra has a fight that has me as invested as this.

It won't. Don't bother.

This fight had me more emotionally invested then the Sasuke Naruto fight I've been waiting for 8 years.

It was SO FUCKING GOOD. I really didn't expect both of them to survive then that Katara move? Godlike. Fucking godlike.

As for AoT I really don't like Eren. Mikasa who was boring as all shit actually had some personality when she wasn't with Eren and I felt that if expanded upon, she could have easily been protagonist after a certain even early on in the series but noooooo we just gotta keep up with boring ass, annoying and insufferable eren.

.....I really hate eren. At least I like Korra.
 
I dunno, I find Titan to be one of the most frustrating stories I have ever read, largely because the author keeps digging himself deeper. Even with some of the most recent happenings, this genre shift that he took isn't exactly engaging me.
Honestly, I've seen worse. AoT is certainly not the second coming of Christ, no matter how hard some people hype it, but it's fairly entertaining for me. I am or was much more frustrated with the endless pandering of Claymore in the last arc, the way Detective Conan is keeping it's actually interesting main plot buried under literally hundreds of unrelated cases or the fact that good manga series like Double Arts and Asklepios get strangled in their craddle, while Bleach and Naruto kept on and on and on.
 
Eren from Attack on Titan says otherwise
Fuck Eren, that show's all about Mikasa. Yusuke Urameshi is an example I'm going to use for my prior statement. He's punch heavy as well, but occasionally he'll come up with something interesting at least. Though I'll admit he lucked through most of his fights before the Saint Beast arc.
 
This fight had me more emotionally invested then the Sasuke Naruto fight I've been waiting for 8 years.

It was SO FUCKING GOOD. I really didn't expect both of them to survive then that Katara move? Godlike. Fucking godlike.

As for AoT I really don't like Eren. Mikasa who was boring as all shit actually had some personality when she wasn't with Eren and I felt that if expanded upon, she could have easily been protagonist after a certain even early on in the series but noooooo we just gotta keep up with boring ass, annoying and insufferable eren.

.....I really hate eren. At least I like Korra.

Agni Kai is soooo good.
 
I couldn't keep watching a show where the main character cries and has a monologue of self-pity every episode. It's a shame since the premise seemed pretty cool, but I couldn't take it anymore. I had enough of the crying-hero archetype after watching Eureka Seven.
Lol have fun with Gundam if you ever get into any of the shows.
 
Too bad Korra doesn't have a long lasting nemesis that could really drive an emotional wedge. The fights will be good but I wish Kuvira was introduced early on in S3 and was more emotionally invested in the Avatar only to witness how broken she was and how she decides to take matters into her own hands.

Anything to make a fight thats both compelling and emotionally gripping, which is so rare. That said Korra vs Zaheer was so fucking god tier.

Other than Opal vs Bolin
 
Pls recommend me good manga/anime. Preferably ones with good anime adaptations so I can more easily get into the manga.

Also is Toriko any good?
 
I'm more disturbed that so few of you know the godlike JoJo bizarre adventure or the awesome style of One Piece or YuYu Hakasho. All that I feel tell better stories than Korra does.
 
I'm more disturbed that so few of you know the godlike JoJo bizarre adventure or the awesome style of One Piece or YuYu Hakasho. All that I feel tell better stories than Korra does.
I love Yu Yu, can't get into One Piece because of the art style. How is Jojo? I keep hearing about it. Why do the Jojo characters look like loud and poorly dressed Fist of the North Star characters?
 
Pls recommend me good manga/anime. Preferably ones with good anime adaptations so I can more easily get into the manga.

Also is Toriko any good?
I guess you want action series

Magi
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A shounen series set in a fantasy world that resembles a colourful fantasy version of our world. It starts in the unusual setting of the middle east and delivers varied lands and characters. The main character is a bit like a less innocent Aang. This show handles it's locations and characters very well and although it's shounen and it's bright colours it get's really dark at times.
- Magi: Kingdom of Magic OP -

Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood -
Adapted from a manga, there are two series. I recommend the second one, Brotherhood, since the first one was made before the amazing manga was finished and jumped the shark at some point. If your fantasy series in a fictional world of alchemy and supernatural beings somehow ends up in actual nazi germany something went wrong.
It has a wonderful story, amazing characters and really cool fights. They series never gets DBZ, characters strength is in logical reason and rifles are not useless, despite half immortal monsters, mutants and Alchemists running around. The latter are technically mages, but I don't want call them that, since their powers have much more internal logic than most mage powers in anything.
- Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Intro -

Guardian of the Spirit -
Wonderful adaption of a novel series. Set in a fantasy china, the stories follows a strong female lead, who protects a prince from people and spirits who want to see him dead. Wonderful animation, amazing fights, strong lead, interesting lore.
- Guardian of the Spirit Intro-

Toaru Majutsu no Index -
this show is dogshit. But it's strangely entertaining dogshit. If you're able to endure heavy fanservice and terrible lack of logic, this show is nice to watch. Especially the Spin-Off Toaru no Kagaku no Railgun is fairly ok. It's set in a futuristic city were Espers are grown. The city is full oc mad scientists, dark secrets in in constant conflict with the churches of the world, who fight science with magic. It's the kind of shit, were you scratch your ass and say "yep, that was kind of shitty", but with a smile on your face.
- Railgun S OP-

Everything but Index features strong female characters in the main cast that are their own characters and not just a tool for the male characters. In Guardian of the Spirit it's even difficult to find anyone who can match Balsa in a physical fight.
Wakfu is great. Nox was one of my favorite villains. Why can't Avatar villains be as good as Nox?
Did you see the Nox Special? Seeing his actual background story expanded broke my heart :(
 
I love Yu Yu, can't get into One Piece because of the art style. How is Jojo? I keep hearing about it. Why do the Jojo characters look like loud and poorly dressed Fist of the North Star characters?

JoJo is weird, but it follows more of an anthology series.

Imagine if each Avatar had a single season and then they moved on to the next Avatar in the next one, and that's kind of the premise.

Part 1 follows a character and Part 2 follows that characters grandson and Part 3 Follows the Grandson Grandson, it's also weird and awesome at the same time and most of the characters are likable.

I think part 1 is the worst, but it's so short. (8EP) and you get to one of the greatest parts in the series (Part 2)
 
I guess you want action series

Magi

A shounen series set in a fantasy world that resembles a colourful fantasy version of our world. It starts in the unusual setting of the middle east and delivers varied lands and characters. The main character is a bit like a less innocent Aang. This show handles it's locations and characters very well and although it's shounen and it's bright colours it get's really dark at times.
- Magi: Kingdom of Magic OP -

Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood -

Adapted from a manga, there are two series. I recommend the second one, Brotherhood, since the first one was made before the amazing manga was finished and jumped the shark at some point. If your fantasy series in a fictional world of alchemy and supernatural beings somehow ends up in actual nazi germany something went wrong.
It has a wonderful story, amazing characters and really cool fights. They series never gets DBZ, characters strength is in logical reason and rifles are not useless, despite half immortal monsters, mutants and Alchemists running around. The latter are technically mages, but I don't want call them that, since their powers have much more internal logic than most mage powers in anything.
- Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Intro -

Guardian of the Spirit -

Wonderful adaption of a novel series. Set in a fantasy china, the stories follows a strong female lead, who protects a prince from people and spirits who want to see him dead. Wonderful animation, amazing fights, strong lead, interesting lore.
- Guardian of the Spirit Intro-

Toaru Majutsu no Index -

this show is dogshit. But it's strangely entertaining dogshit. If you're able to endure heavy fanservice and terrible lack of logic, this show is nice to watch. Especially the Spin-Off Toaru no Kagaku no Railgun is fairly ok. It's set in a futuristic city were Espers are grown. The city is full oc mad scientists, dark secrets in in constant conflict with the churches of the world, who fight science with magic. It's the kind of shit, were you scratch your ass and say "yep, that was kind of shitty", but with a smile on your face.
- Railgun S OP-

Everything but Index features strong female characters in the main cast that are their own characters and not just a tool for the male characters. In Guardian of the Spirit it's even difficult to find anyone who can match Balsa in a physical fight.Did you see the Nox Special? Seeing his actual background story expanded broke my heart :(
Maybe he might like Noir and Gunslinger Girl? Oh yeah another good strong female lead show is Blue Gender. Sci fi as hell, but pretty good.
 
I love Yu Yu, can't get into One Piece because of the art style. How is Jojo? I keep hearing about it. Why do the Jojo characters look like loud and poorly dressed Fist of the North Star characters?

JoJo is interesting because of how...bizzare it is. Even though in the beginning JoJo was basically a derivative Fist of the North Star (Johnathan is basically a dapper British Kenshiro), as the series progressed it definitely came into it's own. WIth each new Part, they also cycled the personalities not only the protagonists, but also the villains which creates fresh scenarios. It also has some of creative battles given the uniqueness of some of the powers in the series, which become more evident in later parts.

It also helps that I love classic rock, and this series has endless shoutouts to it.
 
JoJo is interesting because of how...bizzare it is. Even though in the beginning JoJo was basically a derivative Fist of the North Star (Johnathan is basically a dapper British Kenshiro), as the series progressed it definitely came into it's own. WIth each new Part, they also cycled the personalities not only the protagonists, but also the villains which creates fresh scenarios. It also has some of creative battles given the uniqueness of some of the powers in the series, which become more evident in later parts.

It also helps that I love classic rock, and this series has endless shoutouts to it.
This subbed or dubbed? How much of this is available? If I can like the Chapter Black Saga of Yu Yu Hakusho would this be watchable?
 
This subbed or dubbed? How much of this is available? If I can like the Chapter Black Saga of Yu Yu Hakusho would this be watchable?

The first 2 and a half parts are subbed. They are going to finish part 3 next year.

They finished part 7 in the manga. So if you are going the Manga route then you have a lot of content to go through. But Part 2, 4 and 7 are all really high parts in the series.
 
The first 2 and a half parts are subbed. They are going to finish part 3 next year.

They finished part 7 in the manga. So if you are going the Manga route then you have a lot of content to go through. But Part 2, 4 and 7 are all really high parts in the series.
I'm an anime guy. It's just easier that way for me. Usually when I try a manga I eventually forget my place. I tried getting through the Guyver and Claymore mangas, never finished.
 
I'm an anime guy. It's just easier that way for me. Usually when I try a manga I eventually forget my place. I tried getting through the Guyver and Claymore mangas, never finished.

Well, you still have two entire seasons you can go through.

(Just a note, Part three is a lot longer than part 1 and 2. Like twice as long as both of them combined)
 
Well, you still have two entire seasons you can go through.

(Just a note, Part three is a lot longer than part 1 and 2. Like twice as long as both of them combined)
Well it's something to put in my anime list, lord knows when I'm going to get to it though.
Yeah when I was watching AoT I didn't give a shit about Eren. I was more interested in the Titans and where they came from.
I didn't give a shit about the fool once he got eaten for the first time. Dude talked all that shit only to get stomped the first sortie out. If he wasn't the main character...
 
ya'll really have issues with damaged heroes, doncha

No. The flawed hero is one of the basic archetypes in writing. It's only when characters are really unlikable (personality wise) -- or how they tell their story which can sometimes make the flawed hero really grating. Korra is a pretty good example of them doing it wrong. The writers wanted Korra's redemption after Origin to be really big. So they purposely made her as unlikable as possible (the writers even said that they hated Korra with a passion in the first half of Book 2). This is pretty lazy writing.

Don't you ever have things you don't like? Story's you aren't a fan of? And it's not like, you can't still watch something if you have these issues. Because there can be other things in the story that you like. It also doesn't mean you flat out hate a genre, or a type of character. Sometimes you just don't think it's done right.

EDIT: Also, it's totally fine if not everyone agrees. Like I could say X character or x story isn't done well, and you could say it is. Doesn't make either of us wrong. Sa'll good.
 
Pls recommend me good manga/anime. Preferably ones with good anime adaptations so I can more easily get into the manga.

Also is Toriko any good?

Charlot listed some good stuff

also watch HXH 2011 and Space Dandy

about the Toriko anime.... it was handled poorly to say the least

Filler characters, Censoring, plus bad animation overall from a terrible animation house (Toei) gave the anime a bad rep which lead to its false ending and quick closer


read the Toriko manga instead
 
All of you should see Interstellar if you haven't already.

And, uh, here's something relevant to the thread, I guess:
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Yeah it's a must see movie in theaters. No doubt. Kind of iffy on the script tbh. But I was able to walk away from the overall experience floored.

EDIT: I agree with Jaded, not his best movie (maybe visually). But I still think it was amazing to see.
 
Interstellar is a really pretty movie. It's just that the writing can be a little wonky. I also think it's length played against it, unlike other Nolan movies.
 
Interstellar is a really pretty movie. It's just that the writing can be a little wonky. I also think it's length played against it, unlike other Nolan movies.
That movie felt it's length. At least with his other movies there's enough interesting stuff on there going on to help with the pace. Interstellar had no lube.
 
Interstellar is a really pretty movie. It's just that the writing can be a little wonky. I also think it's length played against it, unlike other Nolan movies.

Disagreed. I didn't feel the length at all. I think it just depends how immersed you get into it. I found everything so enthralling that time just passed by and the movie ended before I knew it. The performances, the camera work, the directing, and the soundtrack were pretty damn great. The science behind the film for the most part is structurally sound and even Neil deGrasse Tyson had little to mention in Twitter about nitpicks. Nolan got an expert on the subject who helped him all throughout the writing. Even Stephen Hawking seemed to have like the film. Of course they could nitpick issues if they felt like it but it seems like they appreciate that a hard sci-fi blockbuster film was even made in the first place. The writing has some plot holes, but there's a clear line between misunderstanding a concept and thinking it's a plothole vs actually finding one. We've had people in the spoilers thread spend pages arguing that shit like a laptop controlling the gates were immersion breaking.

As to the more surreal aspects of the plot, I guess it depends on the person on whether they were able to let it slide, hate it, or embrace it.

I felt the length with each of the dark knight films and with inception. Personally it's now my favorite Nolan film.
 
Disagreed. I didn't feel the length at all. I think it just depends how immersed you get into it. I found everything so enthralling that time just passed by and the movie ended before I knew it. The performances, the camera work, the directing, and the soundtrack were pretty damn great. The science behind the film for the most part is structurally sound and even Neil deGrasse Tyson had little to mention in Twitter about nitpicks. Nolan got an expert on the subject who helped him all throughout the writing. Even Stephen Hawking seemed to have like the film. Of course they could nitpick issues if they felt like it but it seems like they appreciate that a hard sci-fi blockbuster film was even made in the first place. The writing has some plot holes, but there's a clear line between misunderstanding a concept and thinking it's a plothole vs actually finding one. We've had people in the spoilers thread spend pages arguing that shit like a laptop controlling the gates were immersion breaking.

As to the more surreal aspects of the plot, I guess it depends on the person on whether they were able to let it slide, hate it, or embrace it.

I felt the length with each of the dark knight films and with inception. Personally it's now my favorite Nolan film.
It's one of those different strokes for different folks movies. It looked and sounded nice and being scientifically sound helps. I just couldn't get attached to anybody in the movie. I liked Murphy but that's about it.
 
Amon's original-made up backstory about being an emissary of the spirits would've fitted perfectly with the Book 2 story arch and even carried over into the rest of the season.

I don't have time to look for it, but Amon being a plot by the Spirits (Koh, perhaps) or Vaatu was the subject of a great LoK fanart-fiction on DevianArt that would've even made Amon's true backstory as Noatak acceptable.

EDIT: Ooops, forgot how fast this thread is moving and now we're on the subject of Interstellar...
 
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